Closed Chelsea v Liverpool

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Come on Blue...don´t try to twist it around. I never doubted Jose ability to manage teams, it´s impeccable. The only thing I ever questioned was his summer dealings.

Can I blame Jose on his tactics now ? No, I can not & I won´t. His tactics are master pieces. Can he improve ? Perhaps, he can ?

I just do not know how. I am not good enough or should even attempt to do it. Wrong person to ask it here. You will never see any lineups, stats or tactics from me. I am happy to watch Chelsea playing a good football & winning. Most of the times, I had not been happy in certain games. However, it boils down to Chelsea´s jerkiness of not converting on their clear chances. Otherwise, I am fairly happy to see this team two points off the top & playing unconvincingly.

Wouldn't we all? Actually in fact I doubt we all would have this conversation in anyway if we beat Swansea 4-0 yesterday, even though it was not Jose's fault that Eto'o is a shit striker now and missed 2 clear cut chances. But that is the thing the manager is ultimately being judged on though, for all the great attacking football last season under Klopp, Dortmund eventually won nothing and it will not be remembered in years to come, actually by this summer he could even be leaving the club if they drop out of top 4 and not make the CL(which could be possible if Reus is sold in Jan because of the clause and they already lost like 5 games at home), a year ago it would be unthinkable, life is really unfair on managers as you can see. But I think we should stop talking about Jose now and focus on this massively game.

Liverpool is in their best form since 2009 and I fear we might be in for a real hammering if we try to go tow to toe with them unless Jose has a master plan that does not involves parking the bus atm. So just to take the safe way out we might as well do it, no point attempting the risk.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

We have to play Luiz on Sunday to counter Suarez IMO. If Luiz has a good game Suarez can be controlled. Cahill would get shredded by Suarez due to his nature of backing off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aIMPrUJ81w

Lets see after 2 years how much progress he has made, Suarez has certainly made huge progress and now is probably one of the best player in the world. What about Luiz?

[bushman 2,043]

Wouldn't we all? Actually in fact I doubt we all would have this conversation in anyway if we beat Swansea 4-0 yesterday, even though it was not Jose's fault that Eto'o is a shit striker now and missed 2 clear cut chances. But that is the thing the manager is ultimately being judged on though, for all the great attacking football last season under Klopp, Dortmund eventually won nothing and it will not be remembered in years to come, actually by this summer he could even be leaving the club if they drop out of top 4 and not make the CL(which could be possible if Reus is sold in Jan because of the clause and they already lost like 5 games at home), a year ago it would be unthinkable, life is really unfair on managers as you can see. But I think we should stop talking about Jose now and focus on this massively game.

Liverpool is in their best form since 2009 and I fear we might be in for a real hammering if we try to go tow to toe with them unless Jose has a master plan that does not involves parking the bus atm. So just to take the safe way out we might as well do it, no point attempting the risk.

Nothing to worry about on Sunday. Jose will pack the midfield & Chelsea will play a close game, then.

[bushman 2,043]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aIMPrUJ81w

Lets see after 2 years how much progress he has made, Suarez has certainly made huge progress and now is probably one of the best player in the world. What about Luiz?

Luiz has got much better hairstyle though.

[Namika 922]

he cant organise a team? look at villareal. they were brilliant. With Real Madrid he had no faith from Perez and Perez wanted to sack him. he wasnt bad at all, considering he had no say in the transfers and had to build a complete new team.

Pellegrini is a brilliant coach and everbody who followed the Spanish League knows it.

@bushman well look at Madrid...they definetely have the squad to play different than Mou did with them. he couldnt implement any philosophy beside counter-attacking football. he is limited in his tactical approach, as every coach probably is. he is a defensive master and can counter-attack well, but he doesnt knows anything about pressing or organizing an attack when the opponent is sitting deep.

@Namika it aint jut to Ronaldo not tracking back. Klopp perfectly used the weaknesses of Madrid (man targeted Xabi, pressed high and played with no fear). futhermore he beat Mourinho even in the group stage. Dortmund was clearly better all around in this meetings. Mou had no clue how to cope with Dortmunds pressing and their tactical approach.

He responded well in the second leg with Modric next to Xabi and Di Maria and Ozil in front of them, Gotze/Reus on Xabi was useless on that game because Modric took his role of deep-lying playmaker. They created a lot of chances (a lot of creativity), they should have scored 2 goals in the first 15 mins.

to BMK: Dortmund will always create chances, it's an obligation, they will always recuperate some balls high-up the pitch thanks to their gegenpressing and i won't even talk about their individuality.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

"Far more desperate to win this one than the City game. Hate Abramovic and what he's done to the game, exactly the same goes for Mourinho as well. Still hate them for taking Torres. Hate them for how they treated Rafa. Hate them for winning the Champions League. Hate them for buying Willian just to stop us or Spurs getting him. Hate them for ostracizing the one Chelsea player I like watching (Mata). Hate Ivanovic for being bitten by Suarez (hate isn't always rational). Hate their phony fans and their complete lack of passion for the game. Hope we fucking smash these."

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=310845.40

They are really the worst, we have to beat them if we don't they will speak about it for a decade. Hope Jose works his magics.

What a cunt. I hope we score a painful last minute winner against them and suarez gets injured.

[Ollie 4,400]

I'd say that Luiz has to play and just put him on Suarez. He'll probably get done a few times but Suarez will probably get some back too. I remember Suarez giving JT a torrid time when they battered us just after the FA Cup final 2012 and let's be honest, it will probably happen again if Cahill and Terry are together on Sunday. I don't see much to worry about in Liverpool's team, just that Rogers is getting them playing brilliantly and Suarez is to Liverpool what Bale was to Tottenham last season.

I'm only worried because of how we are playing at present.

[The Mak 4,459]

People thought we would get hammered by City. It didn't happen.

People thought we would get hammered by Arsenal. It didn't happen.

Some even thought we would get hammered by Tottenham. It didn't happen.

Now people are saying we'll get hammered by Liverpool, and guess what? It won't happen.


I don't know why people are so negative around here. For all the criticism we give Mourinho, he has not been out-thought yet; never-mind by one of his understudies. Bredan-fecking-Rodgers is hardly a master tactician. If Mourinho has a plan to stop another team playing, it usually works.

Our problem has been being unable to finish our chances and not much else. Yes, we've conceded quite a bit against lesser teams, but it's down to the style Mourinho/Abramovic/the club wants. We're still creating loads of chances for a team that needs a few players and if we were to finish more of those chances it would obviously be totally different.

Mourinho usually has a specific game-plan for those in the top 4-6 so I think it'll be a tight game. Could be end-to-end stuff and could be decided by a magic moment from Suarez or one from Hazard. But I certainly don't see us getting hammered like some people are claiming.

[Blue Warrior 109]

Are dominating home record will be enough, the scousers don't travel well. Its always excuses from them. Suarez may score but I expect it will be too little to late.

[Zoro 151]

You've won a charming carriage clock for being the one millionth person to say that in the last 12 years. Congrats.

And how many of those 12 years have we played proper attacking football? My point is we need to play like we did against Arsenal. If Luiz plays alongside Terry and Luiz pushes forward like he so often does then that leave Terry exposed. Against the likes of Suraz and Sterling he has no chance.

[bushman 2,043]

Well, after one reads the above postings, he must deduct Chelsea are winning on Sunday.

I am not sure about it. Even though, I see another defensive set up by Jose, Ramires missing...

To me, another draw just might happen. Hopefully, not & Chelsea manage to squeak a win here.

[Blue Warrior 109]

Liverpool are off to a good start, insulting the impartiality of the referees. Its safe to say come Sunday they might not have any friends after the latest conspiracy watch. 2-0 Chelsea, Liverpool are not top 4 performers.

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

LETS WIN THIS!!!!!!!!!! COMON CHELSEA!!

Can you please stop posting shit like this in every single pre-match thread?

[bushman 2,043]

Can you please stop posting shit like this in every single pre-match thread?

What´s the beef ? His way of support ?

[Laylabelle 9,546]

Tough game espically in the form their in...though we do seem less shit and the back at the moment so have a good chance as them.Need to go for it from the start rather then halfway through

[Phil Driver 503]

No fear ,only positive thoughts here .

Here is one for you .....................Jose Mourinho has NEVER lost a league home match at Stamford Bridge ,Liverpool have only the chance of getting a draw ,that is the best they can hope in there hearts for ,we do not lose at home under Jose he has a plan for everyone. Even if we go a goal down he will change it and Chelsea will not lose .

ANY LIVERPOOL FANS READING THIS .................... " YOU CAN'T WIN AGAINST CHELSEA AND MOURINHO AT THE BRIDGE AND YOU PROBABLY WILL LOSE.,JUST PREPARE YOURSELF FOR A BAD DAY,IT IS COMING" .

[bushman 2,043]

Tough game espically in the form their in...though we do seem less shit and the back at the moment so have a good chance as them.Need to go for it from the start rather then halfway through

A halfway through, just might be too late. Hold on to Suarez, grab his shirt, shorts, whatever just slow him down & maybe then Chelsea might pop one in ? I hope.

[The Mak 4,459]

Tough game espically in the form their Suarez is in...though we do seem less shit and the back at the moment so have a good chance as them.Need to go for it from the start rather then halfway through

Fixed!

[Laylabelle 9,546]

Hahah good fix

[bushman 2,043]

Hahah good fix

If I were Jose, I´d offer Suarez something, anything to bite, then.