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Omeruo had a terrible (and unlucky) conf cup. The did not do very well against strong opposition in the minitutes he had, so don't really see what the fuzz is about... Is he doing well in training? Great giv him some cup start but certainly not against a top side.

Btw Varane replaced Pepe, who is average at best. Honestly we'got to stop going crazy for Madrid players if we ever want to beat barca again that is... Seriously, Madrid have many average players - too many really.

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Omeruo had a terrible (and unlucky) conf cup. The did not do very well against strong opposition in the minitutes he had, so don't really see what the fuzz is about... Is he doing well in training? Great giv him some cup start but certainly not against a top side.

Btw Varane replaced Pepe, who is average at best. Honestly we'got to stop going crazy for Madrid players if we ever want to beat barca again that is... Seriously, Madrid have many average players - too many really.

Agree with this.

Omerou has a long way to go in terms of development. Hopefully he gets a good loan spell in January

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I was just using the fact Varane was playing regular games for Real Madrid against the case of Kenneth Omeruo realistically playing against City or Arsenal just because he was training with the first team. Jose played Varane (whos very talented) when he was 18 or 19 (cant remember how old he was when he made his debut) because he was ready. Obviously then he's gone into the France team a year later, who are a very good team too. The same with Balo after but he probably would have gotten an Italy call up sooner if he didn't have to wait for Italian citizenship as he was always eager to play for Italy and they had tabs on him for a while.

I was meaning though, Jose plays the youngsters who are exceptionally talented, who are ready physically ready, mentally ready and at a level where they can contribute straight away which is the Balotelli's and Varane's he has worked with. Obviously Omuero is a decent young CB who can go far but he has a lot of work to do, Balotelli and Varane were miles ahead of him in their development which ultimately was why I was saying that using Varane playing regular games as a reason for why Jose might play Omuero is totally different due to the level of talent of the players.

Yeah Jose will work with youth, he started to give Morata minutes at Real too but he didn't give Jese or even use Carvajal at Madrid when they desperately needed a RB. Probably because he had to develop a bit before his game was at the level Jose felt he was good enough to start, so he sold him to Leverkusen and they brought him back in the summer.

oh, so we agree :lol:

I understood your post wrong then. I thought you used Varane and Balotelli as examples that Mourinho only plays youngsters if they're already well established in their NTs. But we meant the same then :)

Mou got a lot of stick for letting Canales go in RM, but God help me, I love that kid, but the few matches he played under Mourinho were terrible imo... I didn't want him anywhere near the senior team.

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Aguero is on a great run of form; Silva has been terrific; Negredo is a threat and they have Yaya. Im not confident...

Man city fans are full confident for tomorrow.

I can't understand how people are so negative for this game tomorrow. All of a sudden, City are this huge unstoppable force. I said it before the season I didn't rate them and I haven't changed my mind. Does anyone remember when they played Bayern? They were fucking light years behind them, we played Bayern and did alright. Without Kompany I can see us causing them problems. Hazard against whoever starts at right back, be it Zabaleta or an other could win us the game. I'm backing Hazard to have a good game tomorrow. Same with Oscar, I think he'll fucking run the show.

Oh, Yaya Toure is a good centre midfielder yes, But on here you'd swear he was fucking Roy Keane, Messi and Bobby Moore rolled into one.

Chels to win it 3-0.

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Oh, Yaya Toure is a good centre midfielder yes, But on here you'd swear he was fucking Roy Keane, Messi and Bobby Moore rolled into one. Chels to win it 3-0.

Can you really blame us though for thinking that?He always destroys our midfield singlehandedly when he plays against us.

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Yes Varane who has caps for the French national team who are one of the top international teams and is arguably the best u21 CB in the world with world class potential in comparison to Kenneth Omeruo. There is an absolute massive jump in quality between Raphael Varane and Kenneth Omeruo, laughable you'd really try and argue your point using Varane as an example when he's arguably Real Madrid's second best CB behind Sergio Ramos.

Its obvious why Mourinho used Varane at Madrid and Balotelli at Inter when they were young because they were exceptional talents and good enough to play. Omeruo isn't good enough to play in the Chelsea first team this season, he needs to play on loan somewhere, arguably a lower PL club or Championship club.. so do you really think hes going to play him against Man City or even Arsenal? Of course he fucking isn't.

Agreed... Varane is miles ahead of Omerou right now but all I was saying is that he could be in the team sheet against Arsenal in the Capital one Cup, not necessarily playing. I never said he was Chelsea first team material
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Travelled from zurich to london for this game hope we beat them! Hope we play:

Cech

Azpi luiz terry cole

Ramires mikel(we dont have anybody else)

Mata oscar hazard

Torres

Subs: schurrle,lampard and bertrand if we are winning!

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Cech

Azpi - Cahill - Terry - Cole

Ramires - Luiz

Willian - Oscar - Hazard

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The reason for playing Luiz as CDM is simple. Stop Yaya. He always destroys our midfield and I honestly think Luiz is the best option to stop him.

Defensively we could play Iva instead of Azpi or even instead of Cahill. I would actually prefer Iva to play one of the positions because of the physic strenght he adds and his strong head-game. Always a danger at corners!

Oscar is a nobrainer for me here.I think this is the wrong type of game for Mata. Oscar should rest next game.

As far as the strikers go, Torres and Eto were equally good the last games they played so Im not too concerned about who starts.

Chelsea 2 -1

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Cech

Azpi - Cahill - Terry - Cole

Ramires - Luiz

Willian - Oscar - Hazard

X

The reason for playing Luiz as CDM is simple. Stop Yaya. He always destroys our midfield and I honestly think Luiz is the best option to stop him.

Defensively we could play Iva instead of Azpi or even instead of Cahill. I would actually prefer Iva to play one of the positions because of the physic strenght he adds and his strong head-game. Always a danger at corners!

Oscar is a nobrainer for me here.I think this is the wrong type of game for Mata. Oscar should rest next game.

As far as the strikers go, Torres and Eto were equally good the last games they played so Im not too concerned about who starts.

Chelsea 2 -1

Lampard is a starter no matter what in this game I feel.

The team I see Jose starting:

Cech

Azpi - luiz - Terry - Cole

Ramires - lampard

Schurrle - Oscar - Hazard

Torres

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Allright, matchday!!

This will be a pivotal game I reckon (pun intended). Comon José, come up with something to shoot them into oblivion on this matchday!

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Also: i have no clear idea who I'd prefer as a striker, really, though Eto'o takes the lead. Also, Hazard seems ready to rip!

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ChelseasMessiah

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Lampard is a starter no matter what in this game I feel.

The team I see Jose starting:

Cech

Azpi - luiz - Terry - Cole

Ramires - lampard

Schurrle - Oscar - Hazard

Torres

Don't be so sure. Something tells me he won't start today, we'd leave our middle of the park far too exposed with him there, against the toughest league fixture this season.

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