No.10 Role

[Azpinator 2,325]

Mata had a better stat last season(chances created) than zidane or iniesta probably ever had in one single season, does that make him a better CAM than Zidane or iniesta?

It makes him a very good player who deserves to be the CAM in the starting XI. I don't like your question.

[Korea 734]

Mata had a better stat last season(chances created) than zidane or iniesta probably ever had in one single season, does that make him a better CAM than Zidane or iniesta?

Exactly...

Just like how Messi and Cristiano are racking in tons of goals for Barca and Madrid, the best striker will always be Ronaldo.

Mata was in a system where he exploded (probably could of scored more goals and assists had Luiz not taken some free kicks and if our CF was in form). I would be shocked if he ever replicates last season stats again....

[meetdoscar 335]

It makes him a very good player who deserves to be the CAM in the starting XI. I don't like your question.

Why? Because it contradicts your idea of stats. First of all mata is not a CAM like you've been posting but an AM whose duty is solely to give goals and assists which is what he does and what he has to contribute when playing N0.10 but players like Oscar/zidane/iniesta are CAM's and quite different from players like mata when playing No.10 because they are real midfielders with ability to score and assist but in addition possess other play making qualities aside from scoring and assisting therefore they usually spend more time deeper in midfield than an AM who plays in the final third and therefore they have less statistics naturally in the final third than AM's but that doesn't make them any less effective to the team than an AM. So the debate about Mata vs Oscar in no.10 is really about having an AM vs CAM as no. 10 and currently with the imbalance in our pivot oscar as CAM 10 is a better fit and offers more to the team as a whole. Mata as AM 10 will leave our pivot exposed when we are not in possession. Its not mata's fault but a deficiency that oscar masks by being a CAM with especially more defensive cabability than usual but also very effective in attack.

[Azpinator 2,325]

Why? Because it contradicts your idea of stats. First of all mata is not a CAM like you've been posting but an AM whose duty is solely to give goals and assists which is what he does and what he has to contribute when playing N0.10 but players like Oscar/zidane/iniesta are CAM's and quite different from players like mata when playing No.10 because they are real midfielders with ability to score and assist but in addition possess other play making qualities aside from scoring and assisting therefore they usually spend more time deeper in midfield than an AM who plays in the final third and therefore they have less statistics naturally in the final third than AM's but that doesn't make them any less effective to the team than an AM. So the debate about Mata vs Oscar in no.10 is really about having an AM vs CAM as no. 10 and currently with the imbalance in our pivot oscar as CAM 10 is a better fit and offers more to the team as a whole. Mata as AM 10 will leave our pivot exposed when we are not in possession. Its not mata's fault but a deficiency that oscar masks by being a CAM with especially more defensive cabability than usual but also very effective in attack.

No because I don't think Oscar or Mata are in the same league of Zidane and Iniesta, and because both players are big names that never played for Chelsea. I've read the things you said before by other members, nothing new there.

Once Oscar reaches the level of Iniesta or Zidane I would gladly talk about that.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

The video isn't available for Brazil :\

Worst part is that it makes you watch the commercial before it telling you that! Those darn French capitalists!

[Dion 2,476]

Worst part is that it makes you watch the commercial before it telling you that! Those darn French capitalists!

Not even the ads were there for me, hahaha. Gladly.

[EBH 283]

I am thinking, Oscar is a good player. But Mata, he does everything better than Oscar, except scoring goals. But maybe because the strikers are not scoring goals, Oscar must play because he and Lampard are the only ones we know can score goals.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

I am thinking, Oscar is a good player. But Mata, he does everything better than Oscar, except scoring goals. But maybe because the strikers are not scoring goals, Oscar must play because he and Lampard are the only ones we know can score goals.

Work rate as well, over the few games we have played , Oscar has shown tremendous work rate and incredible intelligence in defending and pressing .

[Korea 734]

You know what this topic reminds me of...

Gerrard vs Lampard.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Work rate as well, over the few games we have played , Oscar has shown tremendous work rate and incredible intelligence in defending and pressing .

Mata's is getting there in terms of work rate and defensive responsibility. Oscar's definitely better in that matter but Mata is better in creating goals when not on the counter.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Mata's is getting there in terms of work rate and defensive responsibility. Oscar's definitely better in that matter but Mata is better in creating goals when not on the counter.

getting there, until I made the statement he hasn't. I fully expect him to reach the same level of work-rate though, the same way I expect Oscar to increase his creative attributes. Eventually they'll keep becoming better in different areas of their play, and Jose will play them both together for a stretch of games.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

getting there, until I made the statement he hasn't. I fully expect him to reach the same level of work-rate though, the same way I expect Oscar to increase his creative attributes. Eventually they'll keep becoming better in different areas of their play, and Jose will play them both together for a stretch of games.

Atleast, Hazard checks all boxes for me ...maybe not in the form of his life right now.

[Stats 7,053]

I am thinking, Oscar is a good player. But Mata, he does everything better than Oscar, except scoring goals. But maybe because the strikers are not scoring goals, Oscar must play because he and Lampard are the only ones we know can score goals.

Mata's goalscoring record since joining has been brilliant since joining us. Despite not hitting the net yet he is probably the best scoring attacker in our attacking midfield. Mata got around 20 goals last season.

[meetdoscar 335]

After watching oscar for brasil today i think Mata should be No.10 and Oscar No.9. No more debate?

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

After watching oscar for brasil today i think Mata should be No.10 and Oscar No.9. No more debate?

Oscar as a striker?

[Barbara 15,149]

Oscar as a striker?

at least we wouldn't keep reading and listening media say our strikers are still zero'd on EPL

He played as a false 9 from what I gathered people talking. didn't watch it

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

at least we wouldn't keep reading and listening media say our strikers are still zero'd on EPL

He played as a false 9 from what I gathered people talking. didn't watch it

Not sure I like that idea..

[EBH 283]

Mata's goalscoring record since joining has been brilliant since joining us. Despite not hitting the net yet he is probably the best scoring attacker in our attacking midfield. Mata got around 20 goals last season.

I think there is more to this than just the statistic... I see Mata miss chances more often than Oscar..

Last season, he play more than Oscar and he is the main person. Now this is not the case, so Oscar should be getting many more chances to score goals... and in this case, I think Oscar is better in shooting.