CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 If he gets the chances, he'll score the goals. People should wait till he squanders a few clear goal scoring opportunities before making up their mind on whether he can take them for us consistently over the course of the season.I'm not disagreeing. He certainly deserves a run of games to prove his worth when Torres got 2 and a half years worth of chances (although, Sturridge, Ba and Lukaku didn't get any). But just the sight of that "service" excuse brought back bad memories. Don't worry though, I'll tell my therapist about them Stingray and John1611 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I'm not disagreeing. He certainly deserves a run of games to prove his worth when Torres got 2 and a half years worth of chances (although, Sturridge, Ba and Lukaku didn't get any). But just the sight of that "service" excuse brought back bad memories. Don't worry though, I'll tell my therapist about them IM glad youre getting treatment ...hope it works but doesnt seem to be CHOULO19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofacej 132 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Eto'o wasn't the piece of the puzzle we needed, but he's the piece we got.I have my fingers crossed on both hands, and my toes on both feet, that he'll prove to be effective regardless, and it's much too early to judge him (he's still just settling in and the team is hardly in good form) but I have to say that so far we look better with Torres than Eto'o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_juan 64 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 He took 9 touches on the ball in the first half, attempted 4 passes and completed 2 of them. That is simply woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Uzzi 54 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Rather disappointing so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,093 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Fuck Eto;o giving everyone RT's on twitter, I post to him and he doesn't give me one :( :( xPetrCechx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Eto'o wasn't the piece of the puzzle we needed, but he's the piece we got.I have my fingers crossed on both hands, and my toes on both feet, that he'll prove to be effective regardless, and it's much too early to judge him (he's still just settling in and the team is hardly in good form) but I have to say that so far we look better with Torres than Eto'o.Yea, definitely agree with that first line. You look at the differences between Rooney (the player we actually wanted) and Eto'o (the player we ended up with) and you can just tell that he's not the type of player we really wanted. That being said, it is too early to write him off. He is making himself a nuisance by playing off the last defenders, but our tactics seem to be focused around crossing. If Barry hadn't made that last-ditch tackle on Eto'o v. Everton then I think we'd be looking at a different perspective. nofacej and Barbara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Eto'o making a difference despite lack of goals Squawka stats uploaded on Eurosport regarding Eto'o. 9.8% of the time he's outside the box, Torres. No wonder he can't score. Samuel Eto'o signed for Chelsea to add some experience, quality and goals to the side. He has started Chelsea's last three fixtures but during that time he has failed to find the back of the net.Here's our assessment of the former Anzhi forward's first few games for Chelsea. Statistical Analysis:One point worth noting is that Samuel Eto'o has had more shots than the other Chelsea forwards, with eight shots in his two appearances for Chelsea, half of which were on target. Against Fulham he had two of these efforts, with a further effort blocked.Fernando Torres on the other hand had his first shot on target of the season against Fulham, having had just two other attempts (both of which were off target). Despite the fact Torres has featured in four games so far, this shows how dismal his performances have been. Neither player has been prolific, but Eto'o is more effective, given that he has threatened more regularly.From a tactical viewpoint, despite his age Eto'o is also trying to spin in behind defences and create an outlet for his side. He has won two out of four dribbles this season, which shows that he is trying to make things happen. Torres on the other hand (who has featured in two more games) has completed just one of four dribbles.A glance at the players' Action-Area graphics confirms that Eto'o is the more effective striker. Eto'o is looking to operate in the most attacking portion of the pitch: the opposition box.Samuel Eto'o Action Areas v FulhamSpending 38.10% of the game in the penalty area as well as spending a total of 20% in the wide areas shows that is Eto'o is peeling off to get into space as well as running in behind. Even at 32, his movement is intelligent, even if his first touch and sharpness in front of goal haven't been good enough yet.Torres on the other hand, is not as effective at this. Often playing with his back to goal and coming too deep to ever really impact on the game in front of goal. From his start versus Hull we can see this:Fernando Torres Action Areas v HullTorres only spends 9.80% of the game in the penalty area, with most of his action coming outside the box, in the area we'd expect a No. 10 to play in. This is the crucial difference. By playing in more advanced areas, Eto'o is opening up space for his team-mates, rather than over-crowding the attacking midfield area (which is already crowded enough). ConclusionEto'o hasn't been great, but he is still Chelsea's best option up front, given his experience, confidence and intelligence off the ball. By running the channels and trying to get in behind he is opening up space (or at least trying too) - something that Torres does not do well at all kellzfresh, John1611 and Tomo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 ConclusionEto'o hasn't been great, but he is still Chelsea's best option up front, given his experience, confidence and intelligence off the ball. By running the channels and trying to get in behind he is opening up space (or at least trying too) - something that Torres does not do well at allThankgod im not the only one that notices that. Despite Torres's ok performance tonight, it has to be Eto'o for Spurs still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,093 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Eto'ofree transfer3 games 0 goalsbetter movement and link up than we are used to, still adapting.Torres 100+ games 30 odd goals50 FUCKING MILLIONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSterrible movement, terrible link up play, terrible chance conversion rate, terrible in general.Please take a step back and refrain from saying Torres is better than Eto'o after 3 games. PLEASE. Tomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted September 25, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted September 25, 2013 Eto'o making a difference despite lack of goals Squawka stats uploaded on Eurosport regarding Eto'o. 9.8% of the time he's outside the box, Torres. No wonder he can't score. Samuel Eto'o signed for Chelsea to add some experience, quality and goals to the side. He has started Chelsea's last three fixtures but during that time he has failed to find the back of the net.Here's our assessment of the former Anzhi forward's first few games for Chelsea.Statistical Analysis:One point worth noting is that Samuel Eto'o has had more shots than the other Chelsea forwards, with eight shots in his two appearances for Chelsea, half of which were on target. Against Fulham he had two of these efforts, with a further effort blocked.Fernando Torres on the other hand had his first shot on target of the season against Fulham, having had just two other attempts (both of which were off target). Despite the fact Torres has featured in four games so far, this shows how dismal his performances have been. Neither player has been prolific, but Eto'o is more effective, given that he has threatened more regularly.From a tactical viewpoint, despite his age Eto'o is also trying to spin in behind defences and create an outlet for his side. He has won two out of four dribbles this season, which shows that he is trying to make things happen. Torres on the other hand (who has featured in two more games) has completed just one of four dribbles.A glance at the players' Action-Area graphics confirms that Eto'o is the more effective striker. Eto'o is looking to operate in the most attacking portion of the pitch: the opposition box.Samuel Eto'o Action Areas v FulhamSpending 38.10% of the game in the penalty area as well as spending a total of 20% in the wide areas shows that is Eto'o is peeling off to get into space as well as running in behind. Even at 32, his movement is intelligent, even if his first touch and sharpness in front of goal haven't been good enough yet.Torres on the other hand, is not as effective at this. Often playing with his back to goal and coming too deep to ever really impact on the game in front of goal. From his start versus Hull we can see this:Fernando Torres Action Areas v HullTorres only spends 9.80% of the game in the penalty area, with most of his action coming outside the box, in the area we'd expect a No. 10 to play in. This is the crucial difference. By playing in more advanced areas, Eto'o is opening up space for his team-mates, rather than over-crowding the attacking midfield area (which is already crowded enough).ConclusionEto'o hasn't been great, but he is still Chelsea's best option up front, given his experience, confidence and intelligence off the ball. By running the channels and trying to get in behind he is opening up space (or at least trying too) - something that Torres does not do well at allI find this pretty funny. I'm not Torres apologist, I personally think that the three strikers should be rotated based on matchups with Eto's getting the most time, but this gives Eto'o credit for neutral or negative play. Taking 9 shots in 2 league games is only a positive if they actually lead to goals. Taking lots of shots is not, of itself, a virtue. Same with spending time in the penalty area. It, in itself is not a positive, it depends what you're doing there and outside the box.. And all this is based on 2, 3 games anyway? You can't get remotely enough statistical date to prove anything based on that. Come on!!! Eto'o is probably our best bet at striker, but he'll need to do more than take lots of shots and spend time in action areas if he's to deserve regular playing time there. Blue Armour, Barbara, LDN Blue and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I find this pretty funny. I'm not Torres apologist, I personally think that the three strikers should be rotated based on matchups with Eto's getting the most time, but this gives Eto'o credit for neutral or negative play. Taking 9 shots in 2 league games is only a positive if they actually lead to goals. Taking lots of shots is not, of itself, a virtue. Same with spending time in the penalty area. It, in itself is not a positive, it depends what you're doing there and outside the box.. And all this is based on 2, 3 games anyway? You can't get remotely enough statistical date to prove anything based on that. Come on!!! Eto'o is probably our best bet at striker,I feel youhave not finished the post, but I agree with you on that! TorontoChelsea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Eto'ofree transfer3 games 0 goalsbetter movement and link up than we are used to, still adapting.Torres 100+ games 30 odd goals50 FUCKING MILLIONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSterrible movement, terrible link up play, terrible chance conversion rate, terrible in general.Please take a step back and refrain from saying Torres is better than Eto'o after 3 games. PLEASE. The price has nothing to do with anything here. We need to pick our best striker regardless. I think the three are close to each other atm and I wouldn't put anyone ahead of another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,730 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Like sticking a blind fold on, asking a dog to take a shit then feeling the texture and trying to pin point which dog it came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thankgod im not the only one that notices that. Despite Torres's very good performance tonight, it has to be Eto'o for Spurs still.Despite not scoring yet he really troubles defenders much more than torres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1611 77 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Mark Lawrenson does have his ups and downs, but he is spot on in what he says here:"Sammy Eto'o needs to adjust to the Premier League after arriving from Anzhi - if he can get back to the level he was before he went to Russia in 2011, then he can solve Chelsea's striking problems. "At the moment, it doesn't look like he is the answer, but we should judge him after he has played 10 games." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Honestly, I think that even great Drogba in his prime wouldnt be effective in current team right now.Our creative players are overrated as hell, great individuals but they are fucked up as a whole team. No connection and stability. kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Mark Lawrenson does have his ups and downs, but he is spot on in what he says here:"Sammy Eto'o needs to adjust to the Premier League after arriving from Anzhi - if he can get back to the level he was before he went to Russia in 2011, then he can solve Chelsea's striking problems. "At the moment, it doesn't look like he is the answer, but we should judge him after he has played 10 games."it does seem strange agreeing with that tosser but ..yes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Eto'o making a difference despite lack of goals Squawka stats uploaded on Eurosport regarding Eto'o. 9.8% of the time he's outside the box, Torres. No wonder he can't score. Samuel Eto'o signed for Chelsea to add some experience, quality and goals to the side. He has started Chelsea's last three fixtures but during that time he has failed to find the back of the net.Here's our assessment of the former Anzhi forward's first few games for Chelsea.Statistical Analysis:One point worth noting is that Samuel Eto'o has had more shots than the other Chelsea forwards, with eight shots in his two appearances for Chelsea, half of which were on target. Against Fulham he had two of these efforts, with a further effort blocked.Fernando Torres on the other hand had his first shot on target of the season against Fulham, having had just two other attempts (both of which were off target). Despite the fact Torres has featured in four games so far, this shows how dismal his performances have been. Neither player has been prolific, but Eto'o is more effective, given that he has threatened more regularly.From a tactical viewpoint, despite his age Eto'o is also trying to spin in behind defences and create an outlet for his side. He has won two out of four dribbles this season, which shows that he is trying to make things happen. Torres on the other hand (who has featured in two more games) has completed just one of four dribbles.A glance at the players' Action-Area graphics confirms that Eto'o is the more effective striker. Eto'o is looking to operate in the most attacking portion of the pitch: the opposition box.Samuel Eto'o Action Areas v FulhamSpending 38.10% of the game in the penalty area as well as spending a total of 20% in the wide areas shows that is Eto'o is peeling off to get into space as well as running in behind. Even at 32, his movement is intelligent, even if his first touch and sharpness in front of goal haven't been good enough yet.Torres on the other hand, is not as effective at this. Often playing with his back to goal and coming too deep to ever really impact on the game in front of goal. From his start versus Hull we can see this:Fernando Torres Action Areas v HullTorres only spends 9.80% of the game in the penalty area, with most of his action coming outside the box, in the area we'd expect a No. 10 to play in. This is the crucial difference. By playing in more advanced areas, Eto'o is opening up space for his team-mates, rather than over-crowding the attacking midfield area (which is already crowded enough).ConclusionEto'o hasn't been great, but he is still Chelsea's best option up front, given his experience, confidence and intelligence off the ball. By running the channels and trying to get in behind he is opening up space (or at least trying too) - something that Torres does not do well at allCome on dude, come on. After Etoo started in the team he played 3 full games and has 0 goals and 0 assists. Torres has one goal and one assist. All those stats are useless, since he is not scoring goals and the team is not playing any better since the became a regular starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Oh really?After all your stupid support for Fernando Torres when he couldn't score a goal after 50 games you jump straight on Etos back when he can't score in 3 games?Bloody typical.Thats not the case. If you buy new guys, you expect him to add something different and to solve a problem the team has. Right now Etoo is NOT the answer, in fact he lost many chances against Everton. Yeah, Etoo played only 3 games this season, but Mourinho has been tough with his players (Luiz was left out after a bad game, Mata went out of favor after few matches playing out of position, Schurlle was dropped after his bad game against Everton), so I dont see any reason to Mourinho give Etoo this kind of credit.I also dont know why fans should be lenient with Etoo, he is not a new face, he is not a player for the future. We all know that he is a quick solution, he wont be here next season. If he cant provide as soon as possible what the team needs, people must criticize him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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