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🇳🇱 Marco van Ginkel


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Is it really a "massive statement"? He had not started any games for us before and although we were aware of the the threat they can pose I think Jose thought this would be a match to bring him in. At home, likely to have more off the ball and a game where he believed he MVG would settle better into the team but it did not really work. I still think, currently that Mourinho does not think MVG is 100% ready and I would expect Mikel to play more than him for now anyway.

This was a Champions League match,not the League Cup.

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was he really that good? got dribbled past like he wasnt even there a few times and made little to no attempt to recover for their goal like usual.

Yes, go watch the game again and you'll see he made a lot of interceptions and tackles, drove well with the ball and had Ross Barkley in his pocket for the majority of the game, and of course passed exquisitely.

Apart from maybe slacking a bit for the goal he was very good.

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Yes it was one game, but it was a very important game, and he was very weak, hardly heard his name, he looked confused, out of his depth, and when you look at say Ryan how he came on and was really good at such a high level was brilliant. He has to do better.

Not sure what you expected of him to be honest. It was his first start, not to mention his first Champions League start. If that is in reference to Ryan Bertrand, he had already made 100+ appearances in English football, was 2 years older and made his league debut against a Birmingham side that was basically already relegated.

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Yes it was one game, but it was a very important game, and he was very weak, hardly heard his name, he looked confused, out of his depth, and when you look at say Ryan how he came on and was really good at such a high level was brilliant. He has to do better.

Actually Bertrand wasn't very good in the Champions League final, it wasn't just him tho, the whole team bar Cech were awful, Bayern had a beyond stupid number of chances, that doesn't happen if your outfield players are playing well.

Yes they showed great character and determination that night, but when all said and done, Cech saved us from a royal hammering.

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NO way is it a ruptured cruciate ligament, he would not have been able to get back on his feet if it were. He even walked off the pitch. Best case scenario, imo, is that he just twisted his knee and will be back in 2-3 weeks, worst case scenario he did some nerve damage and will be out 2-3 months.

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