Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Schurrle has been a regular in the Champions League in a team fighting for the Bundesliga title for the past few seasons (or at least doing better than the other teams at doing so). Piazon has 4 starts for Malaga, a team who can play who they want in the league as their standing will now only be pride as they can't play in Europe next season.So based on that, Schurrle >>> Piazon.If we're to judge just Piazon himself though, 4 starts (5 sub appearances) in the league for a team who don't need to win nor lose games with 0 goals and not many more assists hardly cries out for a chance here.Where would he play? He's certainly no playmaker so I don't think behind the striker would work, and he's not a winger either. Unless we change to a system where he's a proper supporting striker, he can't play how he wants.Anyone who gets their chances ahead of Piazon either deserves it (De Bruyne, Lukaku) or is simply the better player (Schurrle). That begs the question that why spend 5m+add ons(rising upto to 10m) on piazon if we are simply not gonna show faith in him or give him enough time to develop then probably sell him on a loss and buy a new big named in his position for big bucks.If this is our policy then we really should not be after these wonderkids,just sign the established big name player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 That begs the question that why spend 5m+add ons(rising upto to 10m) on piazon if we are simply not gonna show faith in him or give him enough time to develop then probably sell him on a loss and buy a new big named in his position for big bucks.If this is our policy then we really should not be after these wonderkids,just sign the established big name player. Why do you assume we'll sell him for a loss? I am almost 100% confident we'll make a profit off him. Yeah he might not make it at Chelsea but that doesn't mean he's not a good player. He's impressed at Malaga (suprisingly for me, as I thought that was too aggressive of a loan), he'll still be "young" in 2-4 years time with decent enough loan experience to fetch at least 10M.Like it or not, Chelsea is improving the youth academy to maybe promote a youngster or two but mainly to make a PROFIT from their sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Why do you assume we'll sell him for a loss? I am almost 100% confident we'll make a profit off him. Yeah he might not make it at Chelsea but that doesn't mean he's not a good player. He's impressed at Malaga (suprisingly for me, as I thought that was too aggressive of a loan), he'll still be "young" in 2-4 years time with decent enough loan experience to fetch at least 10M.Like it or not, Chelsea is improving the youth academy to maybe promote a youngster or two but mainly to make a PROFIT from their sales.So we sign him for 10m(add ons and everything) and then sell him for 10m while also spending big money on a new player in his position.Why not just use all that money to sign the big name player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 So we sign him for 10m(add ons and everything) and then sell him for 10m while also spending big money on a new player in his position.Why not just use all that money to sign the big name player?Um because there is hardly no risk with Piazon, worst case you break even? Best case you got a first XI player, so you dont even have to spend anything on a big name player. Average scenario - you make 5M profit off his sale. It's a business, there is no sure shot, you take risks but you also gotta hedge against them. Chelsea's youth academy is a hedge to purchases like Torres and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It would be stupid to sell him right now. Piazon is still a real hot prospect for future, and i think he should be loaned to a championship side next year. He is still young, and, keep that in mind, will be a homegrown player if he stays in England.I love him and i'm sure he can be as good as Oscar with more versatile assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Um because there is hardly no risk with Piazon, worst case you break even? Best case you got a first XI player, so you dont even have to spend anything on a big name player. Average scenario - you make 5M profit off his sale. It's a business, there is no sure shot, you take risks but you also gotta hedge against them. Chelsea's youth academy is a hedge to purchases like Torres and whatnot.Worst case he does not live upto his potential and we sell him on a loss and even if he does well on loan i am pretty sure our board would not give him a chance and pursue the big name player anyway and most probably use piazon as a makeweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Fantastic signing this, probably one of the most logical signings we can make, a player who will fight for the ball, chase down players and is really good at it. He is also a good footballer too! I just think this signing would be perfect, our squad is far too unbalanced as it is, we need players who can put in shifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 We signed him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 20mil down the drain for me... should have been used to buy a proper dm. would have been great if we would have trusted in lukaku and de bruyne to fill in the striker and cam cum winger position for the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 This signing makes sense to me because of Schurrle's versatility. If we're sticking with playing a lone striker then we really can't have more than two senior strikers in the team because you can't give them all enough pitch time. So, it would make much sense to have a player like Schurrle who can play on the wings but still be comfortable covering at ST if needed. That said, 20m is a bit over the top for me. 13-15m would make much more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 This looks like a Mou signing through and through. He always loves pacey players that could cut in and pass to the player in best position or take a powerful shot. He has that in Di Maria pretty much. Hazard and Schurlle on the flanks would do just that. And why do I see a pattern, with Hazard being J.Cole and Schurlle our Duff, I don't know. But in my eyes it is exactly like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 This looks like a Mou signing through and through. He always loves pacey players that could cut in and pass to the player in best position or take a powerful shot. He has that in Di Maria pretty much. Hazard and Schurlle on the flanks would do just that. And why do I see a pattern, with Hazard being J.Cole and Schurlle our Duff, I don't know. But in my eyes it is exactly like that.Your love for Mou is making u blind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 £20million makes me cringe. That being said, I haven't seen much of Schurrle to even begin to see reason why it would/wouldn't be a prudent investment. Squad depth is necessary however, so a player in that position, with that versatility can't be bad?I'll give a basic rundown of his abilities:Great work rate. He will help out the fullbacks.Powershot long distance shot.Very pacey.Very agressive and brave.Can play on both wings, CAM and CF.Has a height advantage.Stamina to burnCalm on the ballGerman = PenaltiesPersonally I see him as one of those big games and never give up sorts like Lamps and Drogba. He is the type of guy that will pull something out of his arse when things are looking down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 raphael honigstein @honigsteinSchürrle update, via @Tim_Roehn : Leverkusen official expected in London on Friday to conclude deal. Chelsea and AS have agreed 5y deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Sounds like it's on then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Great Signing!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Great signing. I didn't want him for the reported figure last season which was closer to £30m, but this is really good business now. He's useless out on the right, so I expect this to be a luxury rotation option for Hazard.You know those 'wunderkid' flair players such as Gotze and Reus? They wouldn't be able to show that flair and excitement without proper rest (which Schurrle will now provide for our players) and without balance in the team to let them do as they please to an extent - which he should again also now offer. It also means we should be conceding less goals in theory when he plays as he helps full backs tremendously well and finds himself all over the pitch if the situation calls for it.I don't expect him to go down as a typical club legend who bangs in goals for fun. I really do expect him to have a 'green' period like Marin - only he'll actually get to see the light at the end of the tunnel and come out a good player for us. He'll probably turn into a fan favourite, for sure.That said, he's inconsistent these days and has really poor finishing when directly in front of goal. There's more chance of him scoring if he's outside the box. Assuming this deal really does go through, I think he'll like it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristerFagermo 3 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I Just don't hope Kevin De Bruyne is involved with this transfer. He is a great prospect for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I have watched 10-15 games in which he has played and he always does the same move. He does not like to pass and shoots.. If we give them de bruyne as part of the deal and will start to cry and loose my faith.. How blind would the board be de bruyne is the better player and has proved it to them in the same league as schurrle plays.I am against buying him but if we could get him for 10 it would be ok. What i dont get is why we should buy him and not a pure winger. We have hazard,mata,oscar and only two wingers moses and marin(although marin never plays) so everyboy(including the board) should see that we need pure wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I'll give a basic rundown of his abilities:Great work rate. He will help out the fullbacks.Powershot long distance shot.Very pacey.Very agressive and brave.Can play on both wings, CAM and CF.Has a height advantage.Stamina to burnCalm on the ballGerman = PenaltiesPersonally I see him as one of those big games and never give up sorts like Lamps and Drogba. He is the type of guy that will pull something out of his arse when things are looking down.Exactly, I can see him standin out like one of those great players like Drogs and Lamps who give it there all, although he may not have the best footballing abillity, he seems to have a great attitude to the game.Sometimes you look at the Mazacar and yeah sure it looks great on the attack, but then you look at the bigger picture and DAMN, we look so fucking vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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