Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Dead serious. His passing is his biggest strength unlike Hazard who's a dribbling demigod. Sure, he's played RW but it's not at all comparable to Hazard who meets the physical demands to play on the wing. de Bruyne can cope with the Belgian league's physicality does not mean he can step up and give Premier League full-backs a hard time.Ow but he can. Before Mario Been came in his final year at Genk he was a full blooded right winger. Personally, because of his crosses and cutting inside it is his best spot (now hes transforming into a CM- thanks to that same Mario Been). Also, just check his goals and assists - almost all of them from the right flank. He would ROCK our right flank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Well Hazard and Oscar both play out of position already basically but it will give us better options I suppose. I can see Schurrle being used on the right more than Hazard though.Hopefully, no more of Oscar on the wingEden Hazard is one of our best players and he should naturally play on his best position, the left wing. His right wing game is good but when he can be so dangerous on the left, he should play there. It depends on whether Schurrle can adapt to the right side role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 You don't pay £20m for a 'work rate' lol. May as well just sign a free-agent who likes to run loads if that's the argument now for signing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Ow but he can. Before Mario Been came in his final year at Genk he was a full blooded right winger. Personally, because of his crosses and cutting inside it is his best spot (now hes transforming into a CM- thanks to that same Mario Been).Also, just check his goals and assists - almost all of them from the right flank.He would ROCK our right flank.I don't think he can keep up that level of physicality in the Premier League. On the wing, he's constantly up against his opposition full back whereas in the centre he's afforded more space to pick out passes. Also, I'd take Schurrle over KDB (wing) all day simply because a trio of Hazard-Mata-KDB would just get destroyed by effective counter attacking teams like Norwich, Villa etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Why the fuck can't we just sign Muller instead? Not even joking. If you people want work rate Muller is your guy. He has the work rate and absolutely everything else. "Bayern wouldn't sell" - well every club has their price, as do the players. Hazard - Mata - Muller.Wow. I'd jizz myself every game.I'd rather go find the next Muller who actually plays on the right than sign Schurrle. Or chuck £40m at Bayern and sign Muller himself.I used to be completely up for this move but I am firmly against it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I don't think he can keep up that level of physicality in the Premier League. On the wing, he's constantly up against his opposition full back whereas in the centre he's afforded more space to pick out passes. Also, I'd take Schurrle over KDB (wing) all day simply because a trio of Hazard-Mata-KDB would just get destroyed by effective counter attacking teams like Norwich, Villa etcYes .... Because bundesliga and the teams the NT plays against with him in that role (Croztia) are feeble pussies Nah mate, that is conjecture. He is a very firm workhorse (most ran miles also in thr Bundesliga this year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaan 263 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Schrulle is certainly a good player one of the standout players for bayer but buying him for 20mill and playing him just because he is a hard worker just doesnt makes sense its just like playing ramires in wing ..he does have good shooting ability and pace but also have average first touch and combination & link up play which was noticable when bayer played under Robin Dutt’s philosophy of passing in very tight space last season.... so still have mixed felling about this transfer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 From what I've read so far from people who actually watch him playing, he is very average and he's unconsistent.I really dont get why our board are so obssesive about him since last summer or so ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Why would leverkusen want him? I understand why they want kdb from us the most!They wanted him back in January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petr.breu 1,618 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Not sure if he's the right man for us, I think he will be Marin number 2, but I will support him from the first day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yes .... Because bundesliga and the teams the NT plays against with him in that role (Croztia) are feeble pussies Nah mate, that is conjecture. He is a very firm workhorse (most ran miles also in thr Bundesliga this year).I disagree. Workhorse and dribblers are different. His situation is not comparable to Hazard,Talking of KDB alone, CAM is easily his best position imo.' He's played in this position at Genk' 'he's played there at Werder' is not a validation of his ability in said position. I can see how you disagree with my statement that he won't succeed on the wing in the PL but the crux of the matter was about his best position PS: Belgium National team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I disagree. Workhorse and dribblers are different. His situation is not comparable to Hazard,Talking of KDB alone, CAM is easily his best position imo.' He's played in this position at Genk' 'he's played there at Werder' is not a validation of his ability in said position. I can see how you disagree with my statement that he won't succeed on the wing in the PL but the crux of the matter was about his best position PS: Belgium National team Well, 1. Factual he IS a workhorse - not a tackler but a workhorse. 2. His best position has always been on the wing. It is not untill recently he is evolving as a cm/amc. 3. His tenacity, physicality and the fact he has been decisive in the 4 of the last 5 games (Hazard in 1) cannot be ignored. These are qualifying games, not only friendlies. So yes .... The validation of his ability on the wing is 'empirical'. Your statement that he cannot cut it on the wing in the EPL is 'conjecture'. If there is a position he has not validated enough ... It is CM.Ps: if you love the belgian NT - he was by far the best player this season - on the flank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 You're right. But the problem is that we loan out KDB and pay 20M while we could have just kept KDB.Or the flip side to the discussion is KDB is a bigger risk to bring in as Schurlle, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Or the flip side to the discussion is KDB is a bigger risk to bring in as Schurlle, right?Nice input. Who IS the bigger risk - KDB /Schurrle . Beware only one year age difference - pretty much the same experience level. Stats .... No comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Nice input.Who IS the bigger risk - KDB /Schurrle . Beware only one year age difference - pretty much the same experience level. Stats .... No comment.Stats are also roughly the same and playing time, just that Schürrle has 14 goals, 10 assists for club against Kevin's 10 goals, 10 assists. Schürrle has been playing in Europe for the last 2 years in Leverkusen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 From what I've read so far from people who actually watch him playing, he is very average and he's unconsistent.I really dont get why our board are so obssesive about him since last summer or so ?To be fair he is a very good player, but it's relly hard to understand that why do we want to sign gim for 20 million pounds(according to rumours) if we have already got KDB. He was cheap, he knows Hazard and Lukaku very well, and he had a terrific season at Werder Bremen. Kevin scored and assisted more goals(19) than Schürrle did. I think that's why most of us don't really happy about Schürrle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Stats are also roughly the same and playing time, just that Schürrle has 14 goals, 10 assists for club against Kevin's 10 goals, 10 assists. Schürrle has been playing in Europe for the last 2 years in Leverkusen.Yes, i said no comment because here context comes into play 1. First year Bundesliga versus homegrown2. The relative position of the teams3. The relative quality of teammates - Bremen sucked at times ..... 4. It doesn't reflect how much impact the player had. KDB is seen as having held Bremen in the Bundesliga .... An anchor point. So yes, i love sience and data. But they are shit without context.Edit : i see 11 goals and 7 for Schurrle with one game more - in a better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yes, i said no comment because here context comes into play1. First year Bundesliga versus homegrown2. The relative position of the teams3. The relative quality of teammates - Bremen sucked at times .....4. It doesn't reflect how much impact the player had. KDB is seen as having held Bremen in the Bundesliga .... An anchor point.So yes, i love sience and data. But they are shit without context.Edit : i see 11 goals and 7 for Schurrle with one game more - in a better team.Valid points, Stingray - agree with them. Only speaks volume of Kevin's adaptation but does it mean Schürrle should deserve less credit? Both of them are good players. For the club Schürrle has 14 goals and 10 assists in 3435 minutes (43 games). KDB has 10 goals, 10 assists for the club in 3085 minutes (34 games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yep, the man that has a squad of 23 players on loan is f**king clueless.Club has been a complete joke since he was appointed.And the vast majority of those loans are thoroughly worthwhile and better than ones that we were obtaining for young prospects over the past few years.But yeah, they're clueless when it comes to players....that they signed....and are now worth three times as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 We have 23 players on loan!Can you please stop saying that? How many of those are youngsters? How many of those would actually be in the first team squad? Nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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