Au blues 29 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Manoeuvre how many community shields do you have? Players want all trophies mate wanting to win should be considered ambition not the other way round Sheva. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Manoeuvre how many community shields do you have? Players want all trophies mate wanting to win should be considered ambition not the other way roundI suppose manoeuvre is me in French? Oh I have a few community shields, no biggie... don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Au blues 29 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Manpe,mate not as fortunate as you but then looking at your avatar I guess they give them out where ever you are held don't they? Sarcastic twat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 To be fair, the Community Shield isn't held in high regard. The way teams treat it, its just a big name friendly. One last chance to see how your pre season turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 ^ only if you don't win it. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando 106 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 By winning the Community shield, at the end of the season a team can say they have won a treble instead of a double. To me this seems important enough. I know how the teams treat the Community shield, but it's still an official trophy. I don't see how aspiring to win it is unambitious. If Torres wants to win the Community shield, imagine what's his ambition to win bigger trophies, like the Premier league.Let's throw away the Supercup, too, shall we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I guess people have misunderstood my words. The original post was that if Torres wins everything with us, including the community shield, he won't have anything more to play for. My point was that if he won every major trophy with us (the league, the champions league and the FA cup, carling cup to some extent), then I can't see him staying just to play for the community shield. For comparison Drogba said he would have possibly stayed if we hadn't won the CL, that's called "playing for something" in my book. Having a community shield in your medals collection is hardly something really ambitious players aspire to, it's just something that either comes or doesn't, but it isn't played for per se. It is there to be won along the road, but the road itself is something bigger. Nando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I'll give him till January, if he isn't doing it then he can be on the bench until the summer then fuck off. I'm getting sick of this now, £50,000,000 and over £100,000 a week and he's playing like a Championship player most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I'll give him till January, if he isn't doing it then he can be on the bench until the summer then fuck off. I'm getting sick of this now, £50,000,000 and over £100,000 a week and he's playing like a Championship player most of the time.Tbf most of us said exactly the same thing last season. First we gave him till January, then we gave him until Drogba was in AFCON (the infamous make or break period which he wholeheartedly broke), then we gave him until the end of the season, where he finally started showing some flashes. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 years we'd still be singing the same old song about time and patience and non-existent service. Next season truly is his to take with Drogba out of the way, if he fails to capitalize, there must be no mercy shown. For the sake of the team I hope he shows why he felt he had the right to whine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Tbf most of us said exactly the same thing last season. First we gave him till January, then we gave him until Drogba was in AFCON, then we gave him until the end of the season, where he started showing some flashes. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 years we'd still be singing the same old song about time and patience. Next season truly is his to take with Drogba out of the way, if he fails to capitalize, there must be no mercy shown.He doesn't have Drogba breathing down his neck now though, He's the main man.Seems abit out of his depth at a decent team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepsi 34 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Fernando Torres included in Spain's euro squad. Soldado missed out. Poor Solado, but hopefully Torres will shine in the competition!http://au.eurosport....161/story.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Aaah, what the hell does Soldado have to do to get into the Squad? He has had a much better season than Torres. 27 Goals to Torres' 11... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invasion 13 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Torres - 12 goals in the seasonPedro - 13 goalsNegredo - 14 goalsSoldado - 27 goals He must have been total shit in the end of the season or something. But delighted for Torres nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando 106 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Both Negredo and Soldado ended badly the season. But I think Soldado deserved it far more than Negredo. When he re-debuted for Spain a couple of months ago, and scored a hattrick in 45 minutes, I really feared Torres would miss the Euros. I also feel for Adrian, because he looked like a good replacement for Villa, yesterday against Serbia. However, Del Bosque knows what he's doing.Maybe Llorente is the first choice for Spain now. But, also, they can play with a false 9, with Silva or Cesc occupying this position. It's not like they don't have options or something ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Glad he made it into the squad. Hopefully he has a good tournament and doesn't get injured... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Shocked i must say, Soldado has had a fantastic season, he and Torres shoulda gone. If i had to pick one, i'd had to pick Soldado but it's his choice. I hope Nando shines. He's just won the European cup, if this doesn't give him confidence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Soldado must be fuming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Oh.. The Spain squad. Having so much quality that they can drop player with over 20 goals in a season whereas Poland can't even find a mediocre 2nd striker. So much privilege. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Think they needed an experienced international striker for their squad, good call taking Torres. Would have brought Soldado over Negredo though. Nando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I think Torres' work rate and international experience gave him the nod but from him getting dropped in the last spain squad for Soldado then Soldado getting a hat-trick.... it's quite remarkable that Soldado isn't at least in the squad. Embarrassment of riches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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