Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Maybe £60m for Suarez he scored 4 today mediator and yuvala 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Maybe £60m for Suarez he scored 4 todaySwap Torres + 40M would be fair for both teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,721 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 It's cause we don't provide him service - any striker would struggle to score two goals in a year in the EPL for Chelsea I'm pretty sure people were complaining about service prior to this season. And its not just about Torres...Fact is when we lacked a target-man of Drogba's quality, or a hard worker like Anelka or Eto'o, there is little productivity from the forwards. The only other forward who bucked the trend for a while was Sturridge playing out of position, and out of his skin to secure his starting eleven spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I'm pretty sure people were complaining about service prior to this season. And its not just about Torres...Fact is when we lacked a target-man of Drogba's quality, or a hard worker like Anelka or Eto'o, there is little productivity from the forwards. The only other forward who bucked the trend for a while was Sturridge playing out of position, and out of his skin to secure his starting eleven spot.Not complaining I don't mind people complaining - I'm saying people are using "service" as a way to excuse how poor Torres has been. I'm sorry but if anyone feels Lukaku; Sturridge; Suarez; RvP; Rooney; Kun; etc would score 2 goals in the EPL for a calendar year they better get their head checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Not complaining I don't mind people complaining - I'm saying people are using "service" as a way to excuse how poor Torres has been. I'm sorry but if anyone feels Lukaku; Sturridge; Suarez; RvP; Rooney; Kun; etc would score 2 goals in the EPL for a calendar year they better get their head checked. Just to reiterate. When I initially said that in general this season the service hasn't been great for our forwards I wasn't making an excuse for Torres at all (I'd be the one of the last people to do that lol). Like I said before, I was talking about all of our strikers in general. Granted, they obviously aren't as good as the elite strikers with their movement and finishing - they all still have decent enough movement to allow that creation of chances - just like today when Torres got himself in decent positions the service was there but he obviously had a mare. We haven't seen that consistently enough from the three behind whoever's upfront this season - creatively we were awesome against Sunderland. We do that on a regular basis and our strikers will score a lot more as the season progresses because the service is there and they all are decent strikers; however it'd obviously be more awesome if we had an elite striker doing the business for us when those behind him are producing creatively like they did against Sunderland. Barbara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ay 66 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Needs to do better. First was excusable (half-chance and being crowded out) but the second one...jeez that was a sitter. Needs to be more composed. Looks like the injury knocked him off his stride a little. Other than that, I thought his all-round play was good. Can't recall him losing the ball, won some good aerial duels, made direct incisive running and linked up pretty well.His body language when he was subbed wasn't very positive though. Hopefully he'll just knuckle down and keep working at it and not sulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 If he has a decent game next time he's out there, I'll be shocked. Maybe he'll get fired up and score two goals only to go on another drought.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,430 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 no excuses for him today.. started well but should have had 4 goals like Suarez.. Very poor Nando! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Caliber X 27 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He's so inconsistent, one day it looks like he's back and the next he misses an open goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He was terrible yesterday - he worked hard for the team, but ultimately have to judge him on what he did in an offensive aspect; which was negligible! Very disappointing. However he has been generally decent for us this season, so we can't be too harsh on him for one bad game. Hopefully he pops up and bags a couple the next match he plays in. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Bag of shit again yesterday, looked his old self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Caliber X 27 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Maybe he should put the mask back on. No one cared who he was... Until he put on the mask... Mouri_Matic and BlueLion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 This guy must need to improve.More like be should be sold. no other top club in the world would tolerate this level of mediocrity and inconsistency from its record signing Tomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 There's no middle ground with him. He's either fantastic or absolutely dogshite. unfortunately for us his ratio of bad games to good games is about 10 to 1. I'm fed up with the false dawn he gives whenever he has a good game and gives a glimmer of hope to the fans that he might, just might kick off from there. Tomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 The problem is just as he was gaining confidence and scoring, he got injured and yesterdays game was proof he is back to square one, even start of the season, he would have got those shots to get the goals. Ah well, just as well the other players are scoring, if the strikers cant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,721 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Not complaining I don't mind people complaining - I'm saying people are using "service" as a way to excuse how poor Torres has been. I'm sorry but if anyone feels Lukaku; Sturridge; Suarez; RvP; Rooney; Kun; etc would score 2 goals in the EPL for a calendar year they better get their head checked. Of course, I agree Torres was, and is, not completely faultless. The chances he spurned today, are inexcusable considering the way he has set himself up earlier this season.I'm saying consider Torres this season, under Mourinho, and also under different,likely better tactics, and accept that the Sunderland game was just a bad day. I just feel the reaction to his performance today and Essien's blunder last Sunday has been overstated. Because of the wins, most people have little else to complain about and hence clutch at smaller things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 No the reaction to the Tottenham game was out overstated, if Sir Frank had setup two glorious chances; missed a sitter; got send off and his mistake had lead to a Tottenham's goal he would never get voted MOTM by 117 votes on this site or have people talking about what a glorious 20 minutes he had.Torres gets judged by different standards - what he should be judged on is goals and he is a Championship level striker if he is judged on those. So people choose to judge on his blond hair; how hard he works; how he cares etc Tomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 What can I say about Ferda that was not already said here ?The team does not provide him with chances, I read above ? LOL.How many does he need to score one goal, then ? No matter what we say here, one thing we all should admit Ferda is shot. His sporadic scoring, won´t convince me, he is back, sorry.What to do, then ? Should Jose play him & hope Ferda will pop one in ? It´s a joke, has been for two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Swap Torres + 40M would be fair for both teamsYeah me too, in a world where Cavani is 60m, Falcao 50m, Bale 86m, Neymar 56m then Suarez at 50m-60m is bargain. Maybe £50m+Torres would tempt them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Yeah me too, in a world where Cavani is 60m, Falcao 50m, Bale 86m, Neymar 56m then Suarez at 50m-60m is bargain. Maybe £50m+Torres would tempt them?At the moment who would swap for Ferda ? Not too many. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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