CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I honestly and sadly see this occuring in January.Not unless we get a striker. If we have to start Lukaku against Napoli I'll cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Not unless we get a striker. If we have to start Lukaku against Napoli I'll cry.Have faith, the beast known to us humans as 'Lukaku' may just flay Napoli alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Someone just learned a new vocab word. Alex knows more big words than most... he just chooses to use the big ones where appropriate rather than cramming them in at every opportunity like he used to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Once again he came on and had virtually no impact. We can say 'give him playing time' but the fact is we gave him several games to prove himself last season at the expense of Drogba who is far better and nothing came of it. We can't keep risking throwing away results because we can't score goals because we have Torres up front so that almost a year down the line he can 'prove himself'. Last season we were moaning that nobody was giving him service (although I must point out that Benayoun put Torres through on goal several times against Wigan and Newcastle) so we bring in Mata. Still nothing from Torres though apart from a goal against Swansea and Man U and a brace against Genk (in a game where he also missed two absolute sitters)Sorry Nando but you never have and probably never will look anything like you did at Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Alex knows more big words than most... he just chooses to use the big ones where appropriate rather than cramming them in at every opportunity like he used to I'm not complaining, I'm learning new words I can show off to my English teacher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 We have a fairly decent run now where we have mid-table teams in the league and a couple of FA Cup ties. If he can't recapture his form during this period as our main striker, it will be official that he is hopeless and must be sold. Kieran. and Badboy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Once again he came on and had virtually no impact. We can say 'give him playing time' but the fact is we gave him several games to prove himself last season at the expense of Drogba who is far better and nothing came of it. We can't keep risking throwing away results because we can't score goals because we have Torres up front so that almost a year down the line he can 'prove himself'. Last season we were moaning that nobody was giving him service (although I must point out that Benayoun put Torres through on goal several times against Wigan and Newcastle) so we bring in Mata. Still nothing from Torres though apart from a goal against Swansea and Man U and a brace against Genk (in a game where he also missed two absolute sitters)Sorry Nando but you never have and probably never will look anything like you did at Liverpool.Do you honestly think Torres is gonna start scoring goals by playing 10-15 minutes now and then? He needs to friggin START games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 This is Torres's time to shine now as Droggers will be gone and he has that role to himself probably. I don't see how we are going to play Sturridge in the middle because he offers so much on a wide position because of his pace and yoof. I can see Mata being hell bent on trying to set him up but Danny almost certainly won't lol, he's a yoof on a mission to the Euro's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I think you'll find Rooney went through a patch as bad as this and got back to form, at least he was playing the whole time. Strikers need a run of games and I'd really like to see Torres getting a good long run in the starting 11. Can anyone tell me when Torres' longest run in the starting 11 was and how many games it was for?Rooney was also restricted to mostly appearances as a sub around that time...although he did start some of the less important games..Torres has to win his starting role back, but I agree he needs more minutes and appearances than what he's getting now (namely just the last 10-15 minutes of alternate games) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 maybe we should just throw torres to the reserves match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 maybe we should just throw torres to the reserves matchit's harsh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 it's harsh...Why, he doesn't try in the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Why, he doesn't try in the first team.Silly comment. It's hard to "try" in the first team when you are sitting on the bench every game. He comes on and looks hungry for the ball. You cannot compare him to drogba because they play a different game. Torres plays of the last man and waits for that ball to be played through to him. Which is hard to recieve when you only get 10 minutes here and there. xPetrCechx, susu, nofreakingway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Silly comment. It's hard to "try" in the first team when you are sitting on the bench every game. He comes on and looks hungry for the ball. You cannot compare him to drogba because they play a different game. Torres plays of the last man and waits for that ball to be played through to him. Which is hard to recieve when you only get 10 minutes here and there.That would be a valid excuse, but he doesnt make any runs to receive the ball. Watch him during the ten minutes he has, it was at walking pace, and the defenders did not have any trouble marking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 That would be a valid excuse, but he doesnt make any runs to receive the ball. Watch him during the ten minutes he has, it was at walking pace, and the defenders did not have any trouble marking him.This is not true in the slightest i think you need to watch him yourself a bit better. Can i ask, do you go to games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 This is not true in the slightest i think you need to watch him yourself a bit better. Can i ask, do you go to games?No I do not. But I made it a specific note of watching him when he's playing, and I have to say the lack of workrate is really disappointing. Especially as I've been advocating for him to get a chance in the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 No I do not. But I made it a specific note of watching him when he's playing, and I have to say the lack of workrate is really disappointing. Especially as I've been advocating for him to get a chance in the first team.No one can say he doesn't work hard by watching him on TV. When at game you can see the posistions he tries to get himself into. This is the main reason he was so successful at liverpooll, was because of the fact that they played to his advantages. Which is something we need to start doing. Before he got sent off and he was starting every game, you could see how well him and Mata were playing together because Mata waited for his runs and gave the ball to him on a platter. Sure he would not take every chance but he started scoring more when those chances were given to him. Ezio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 No one can say he doesn't work hard by watching him on TV. When at game you can see the posistions he tries to get himself into. This is the main reason he was so successful at liverpooll, was because of the fact that they played to his advantages. Which is something we need to start doing. Before he got sent off and he was starting every game, you could see how well him and Mata were playing together because Mata waited for his runs and gave the ball to him on a platter. Sure he would not take every chance but he started scoring more when those chances were given to him.What you say is valid, but in many other matches that I do watch at home, he looks lively, making good off the ball runs, even frequently closing down defenders at full pace. I have not witnessed it in the Spurs game however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Au blues 29 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 No one can say he doesn't work hard by watching him on TV. When at game you can see the posistions he tries to get himself into. This is the main reason he was so successful at liverpooll, was because of the fact that they played to his advantages. Which is something we need to start doing. Before he got sent off and he was starting every game, you could see how well him and Mata were playing together because Mata waited for his runs and gave the ball to him on a platter. Sure he would not take every chance but he started scoring more when those chances were given to him.Agree with you Steve I dont think that his work ethic the issue and some are just blinded by their bias! Interesting though watching the last game and Mata ( I know of topic) and his frustration at making the run and Danny not passing then compare a CF making run after run for the same result? Ezio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Torres demands respect:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2077909/Fernando-Torres-demands-respect.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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