Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I haven't watch Neymar play but is he really a winger? What if he comes in and wants to be a striker? What if he won't track back to help the midfield? Torres is an out and out central striker so he's not going to play anywhere else. Neymar sounds like a wonder talent but is he really the winger Chelsea needs?He'll play on the left side and cut in, that's his best position. He'll beat a few players and either score or lay a few chances on a plate for Torres. Same goes for Sanchez, except he won't cut inside as much and provide much needed width on the right side. Neymar won't track back, but Sanchez will. BLionheart and dodojojo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 He'll play on the left side and cut in, that's his best position. He'll beat a few players and either score or lay a few chances on a plate for Torres. Same goes for Sanchez, except he won't cut inside as much and provide much needed width on the right side. Neymar won't track back, but Sanchez will.Ah, thanks. Have you watched both a bit? If so, do you think they'll match up well with Torres?I'm not sure Chelsea will be able to afford both. I hear some prices for Sanchez and think they're unrealistic. I can see his price go way up if City and supposedly Liverpool are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Ah, thanks. Have you watched both a bit? If so, do you think they'll match up well with Torres?I'm not sure Chelsea will be able to afford both. I hear some prices for Sanchez and think they're unrealistic. I can see his price go way up if City and supposedly Liverpool are interested.I haven't watched Neymar a lot, but Sanchez I have watched a lot. I would love for us to get Sanchez because he'll give our team something we haven't had for a long time. A pacy winger that will provide some width. He's very fast with the ball and can pull off his fair share of skill moves, leaving 1 or 2 in his dust and providing a quality ball for the striker. Sanchez also works very hard for the team, he's sprinting the whole game pretty much, tracks back all the time.Neymar on the other hand, won't do much tracking back and even if he does track back, there won't be any conviction in his defence. He's a wonderful talent with a lot of creativity and an eye for goal, more so than Sanchez.They can match up with Torres, especially Sanchez. Neymar maybe would prefer some 1-2s with Torres, instead of making that early pass that Sanchez will try. I think we need both guys to give us some width, creativity and scoring help as I don't see Frank and the rest of the mid providing much goals from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Jen Chang at SI (take it for what you think it's worth) doesn't think Sanchez is a Liverpool target anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I broke my media blackout to read the article since its BBC. Forgot about Shearer. To his credit he wasn't as negative in this article as he has been in others. He's still a jerk.Calvo: "I'm convinced this is a sporting thing and not a mental thing. Fernando is a very strong person. If you give him any task, he sees it through to the end. When he was a youngster at Atletico, you could see he would become a special player. He was very intelligent and always tried to help other players. He was an example to everyone at the club."Having joined Chelsea mid-season, the Spaniard has struggled to develop any chemistry with fellow strikers Didier Drogba and Nicolas Anelka or creative midfielders like Frank Lampard, Ramires or Florent Malouda. (This is all true except the creative part.)Calvo: "At Liverpool he was always looking to get on the shoulder of defenders and look for spaces in behind, whereas at Chelsea he keeps coming towards the ball because he has other forwards around him. Chelsea don't need to build a team around Torres but they need to adapt their style a bit to get the best out of him. They have great players but he has specific movements that they need to learn to understand, like Steven Gerrard did at Liverpool. I don't think it's so much adapting a system to a player, it is about working on specific plays that suit the player. He needs a situation in which when he moves, Frank Lampard already knows what he is going to do, so he can play the right pass in time for Torres to finish it off. But I'm not convinced Carlo Ancelotti has maximum faith in him like Rafael Benitez did. That can't be easy for a player." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 ^ Yeah, I read that article too. It was very good considering both obviously actually tried to analyze the situation rather than just berating Torres. I mean, to be fair, Torres hasn't looked that bad. His effort is definitely 10 times better than it was at Liverpool. The main problem is that, unlike Drogba Torres needs to run on the ball to score. Those kinds of balls he doesn't get cause the midfield is never on the same wavelength. Of course that isn't the only problem as even with the chances he's gotten he should have notched a few already, so that's the confidence issue.Bad start, but the future will definitely be bright. It would be a worry if he wasn't even able to get himself goal-scoring chances, but fortunately that isn't the case. He gets that confidence back and he would have had 3-5 goals already by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Yep, even Torres wife would say he should have scored at least a few by now. He's like a golfer with the yips but worse. He's kind of like this guy where it's just not going right.16 on a Par 4On the other hand, the middle's poor play seems to get a pass by the mainstream media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Yep, even Torres wife would say he should have scored at least a few by now. He's like a golfer with the yips but worse. He's kind of like this guy where it's just not going right.16 on a Par 4On the other hand, the middle's poor play seems to get a pass by the mainstream media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Our paper boy put a bet on that Torres wouldnt score at all this season...he probably will but in the last minute of the game at the end of the season lol....any time before then be even better!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.Jen <3 23 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 lol i relli hope he dies his hair blonde again! its good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicrico 175 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Again, saying all these things about Torres being the main man next year is way to pre-mature...lets see if he can hit the target first. which he can't by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Again, saying all these things about Torres being the main man next year is way to pre-mature...lets see if he can hit the target first. which he can't by the looks of it.The newspapers have got to your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Again, saying all these things about Torres being the main man next year is way to pre-mature...lets see if he can hit the target first. which he can't by the looks of it.If you’re going to make an attempt at a witty remark at least think of something logical. Because Torres has obviously hit the target since joining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicrico 175 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I mean notch, I can understand people defending the guy, but for the life of me I don't see how anyone can say he even looks decent. I can remember once (vs wigan) he looked like he might score....other than that, its been something to forget for him and for us. Noone could have seen this coming, but Carlo having this much faith in the guy and him letting us down is getting us nowhere. Drogba is our best striker, yet we choose to play Torres. It's not smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElNinoSemper 18 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I mean notch, I can understand people defending the guy, but for the life of me I don't see how anyone can say he even looks decent. I can remember once (vs wigan) he looked like he might score....other than that, its been something to forget for him and for us. Noone could have seen this coming, but Carlo having this much faith in the guy and him letting us down is getting us nowhere. Drogba is our best striker, yet we choose to play Torres. It's not smart.So your solution is not to play him at all? How on earth is THAT smart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Has Torres bulked up? In first pictures of him training I noticed that he has strong thights, even stronger than some of our (my) Africans.Could that affect his pace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Not really, Drogba and Torres aren't going to be a strike partnership next year. Torres is the main man and will most likely just be the lone striker in a new 4-3-3 next year, with Sanchez and Neymar on the wings If that happens, and Sturridge is on the bench, the entire management team can just fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicrico 175 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 So your solution is not to play him at all? How on earth is THAT smart?Well what would you say do then? imho playing him instead of Drogba had a huge affect against Man U. I mean you start with Drogs, you have heart and desire, Torres shows none of that. Playing someone cause we bought him and he looks rubbish, then costing ourselves games is now the best solution? so playing our best players shouldn't happen anymore? Torres right now is worse than anelka and Drogba. If you're saying play him when the other two are performing much better then he is then that isn't smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElNinoSemper 18 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Well what would you say do then? imho playing him instead of Drogba had a huge affect against Man U. I mean you start with Drogs, you have heart and desire, Torres shows none of that. Playing someone cause we bought him and he looks rubbish, then costing ourselves games is now the best solution? so playing our best players shouldn't happen anymore? Torres right now is worse than anelka and Drogba. If you're saying play him when the other two are performing much better then he is then that isn't smart.Listen, I get it. Fernando is off form. And I'm not suggesting starting him over Drogba. But why not alongside him? I honestly don't see how it benefits anyone, club or player, to keep him benched. Just when does he get to play his way into form then? Btw, I completely disagree that he is worse than Anelka. I see more effort from Torres than Anelka these days.So what is this, the second disallowed goal for Fernando then? He just can't catch a break can he? For the measly ten minutes he was given, he almost scored. Pity that won't be what the papers are talking about tomorrow though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 If it weren't for bad luck, he would have no luck at all. He's going to be a country singer soon, it'll all be about bad women, bad beer and disallowed goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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