The Benitez Thread

[The only place to be 11,313]

We can't be hiring Moyes, Martinez and what not.

They have to be in the discussion. You dismissed them and offered up a fictional character instead. Unfortunately whilst we may not be constrained by financial binds, we do have to limit ourselves to characters who exist in the real world.

If we're going to invent people, I'd like Frank Lampard aged 42 coming off back-to-back-to-back doubles with Real Madrid please. And he's got a cracking set of knockers too.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

They have to be in the discussion. You dismissed them and offered up a fictional character instead. Unfortunately whilst we may not be constrained by financial binds, we do have to limit ourselves to characters who exist in the real world.

If we're going to invent people, I'd like Frank Lampard aged 42 coming off back-to-back-to-back doubles with Real Madrid please. And he's got a cracking set of knockers too.

Yeah that's the problem, there just aren't many options out there right now. It's much easier to dismiss options than think of one. I'd say bring Hiddink back if you want a half ass realistic one, other than that I can't think of any.

[Tomo 21,751]

Moyes is the master of making a team with unlimited funds and not huge expectation's punch above their weight. Sam Allardyce did the same at Bolton to just as good effect as Moyes, if not better, does that mean if Big Sam remained at Bolton to this day his name will be in the frame?

[DH1988 1,348]

Definitely would love Moyes here providing he had time and was in charge of transfers etc.

Worked wonders and he has the fergie factor.

[Shogun 721]

The only argument against Moyes being a top manager is for a club like Everton he should have won a trophy, yet most people don't realise just how shit we were when he took over and the following proves that. He took over at the near on end of the 2001-02 season and here are the finishes we had not long before that.

96/97 - 15th

97/98 - 17th

98/99 - 14th

99/00 - 13th

00/01 - 16th

01/02 - 15th

Considering in his first season, first XI was:

------------------------------Richard Wright-----------------------------

Tony Hibbert------David Weir---------Alan Stubbs----David Unsworth

Thomas Gravesen----Li Tie----------Lee Carsley-----Gary Naismith---

---------------Thomasz Radzinski-------Kevin Campbell----------------

That team was somehow guided to 7th place in Moyes' first proper season, you look at that team and let's be honest it is a relegation team which was reflected the next season when we finished 17th in 03-04

Then we finished 4th in the 04-05 season when we were one of the favourites for relegation and had sold Rooney to Manchester United. Now, lets be honest here that's an absolutely amazing thing to do after finishing 17th and selling your best player for £27m and only spending £8m to cover it in transfers. I don't think many managers could have done that.

After crashing out of the champions league qualifiers to a very tough draw against Villareal we finished 11th the following year.

After that we had succession of top six finishes for 4 years before finishing 8th, 7th and 7th which brings us up to now.

Consider that when David Moyes took over, we'd only finished in the top ten once since the premier league began. In 10 years on a shoe string budget (5.6m net spend since he arrived) he has 8 top 8 finishes under his belt.

David Moyes has transformed Everton into an competitive side in my opinion. Sometimes in cups you need luck, had we beat Fiorentina on penalties in 07 we'd have faced PSV in the quarter finals of the Uefa Cup in the 07-08 season and who knows what could have happened from there considering we had already beat the eventual winners. We could have won the FA Cup in 09 but just came short.

You look at the team I posted at the top and if I told you at the time that Everton would be competing for Europe regularly in ten years time with a net spend of around £5m in the next ten years then I'm pretty sure all of us would be amazed.

I think all that is worth a lot more than a few cup wins. What do you think Birmingham City would have preferred, the league cup or the above?

However, I really can't see Moyes going to Chelsea, one thing he often eludes to is that he has a perfect relationship with Bill Kenwright, our chairman. I don't think he believes that Roman could offer the same thing.

[Rupert 130]

Whether you like it or not, Rafa has been given an 18 month contract subject to review - his review and the club's review after 6-7 months. You will be lucky if Rafa agrees to the extension. Some of the posts on here are illogical. People touting managers who Rafa has defeated with style since he was at Chelsea (and before) - managers who have never won anything let alone the long list of trophies Rafa has won.

Rafa is too good for some of you. And despite all your specualtiosn noen of you knew that Rafa would be offered the post last December.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Whether you like it or not, Rafa has been given an 18 month contract subject to review - his review and the club's review after 6-7 months. You will be lucky if Rafa agrees to the extension. Some of the posts on here are illogical. People touting managers who Rafa has defeated with style since he was at Chelsea (and before) - managers who have never won anything let alone the long list of trophies Rafa has won.

Rafa is too good for some of you. And despite all your specualtiosn noen of you knew that Rafa would be offered the post last December.

Are you one of Rafa's loved ones? Are you his brother? Are you his wife? Do you own his local Dominos?

[communicate 2,703]

Whether you like it or not, Rafa has been given an 18 month contract subject to review - his review and the club's review after 6-7 months. You will be lucky if Rafa agrees to the extension. Some of the posts on here are illogical. People touting managers who Rafa has defeated with style since he was at Chelsea (and before) - managers who have never won anything let alone the long list of trophies Rafa has won.

Rafa is too good for some of you. And despite all your specualtiosn noen of you knew that Rafa would be offered the post last December.

If you really want to convince chelsea fans about rafa, you realky need to show what he has done to chelsea

. Get some chart or video.

The more you do this the dmore we hate rafa or that is your intention from the beginning )

[Hutcho 8,443]

Wouldn't mind moyes tbh. He is a good manager. Probably wouldn't be there for very long, but it would be nice to concentrate on football without the manager being the main focus of everything. Yes, that is partly caused by the majority of us don't particularly like rafa, but it would be great to just have a manager doing his job that wasn't disliked by the fans and that we could all unite behind... Mourinho would be great as he really brings everyone together and really knows what he is doing and is just the best, but it seems unlikely and it would be great when we don't have the rafa and torres stigma hanging over our club.

[bababoom 4,478]

We can't be hiring Moyes, Martinez and what not. We need a strong character, someone who demands respect. None these timid managers, no matter how talented they are.

Moyes timid?

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Everton-Manchester-United-preview-David-Moyes-hairdryer-scarier-than-Alex-Ferguson-version-says-Tim-Howard-article822627.html

[Changingman_2000 876]

Whether you like it or not, Rafa has been given an 18 month contract subject to review - his review and the club's review after 6-7 months. You will be lucky if Rafa agrees to the extension. Some of the posts on here are illogical. People touting managers who Rafa has defeated with style since he was at Chelsea (and before) - managers who have never won anything let alone the long list of trophies Rafa has won.

Rafa is too good for some of you. And despite all your specualtiosn noen of you knew that Rafa would be offered the post last December.

Too good for us? You are having a fucking laugh "Rupert". Now, at the risk of being censured, why don't you don those lovely little yellow tartan trousers and piss off and haunt some other site. Fucking scouse git.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Are you one of Rafa's loved ones? Are you his brother? Are you his wife? Do you own his local Dominos?

I'm gonna go with that Balague chap. Seems legit.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Article in the Mail on why it would be a mistake for Moyles to come here..kinda agree but hey ho...maybe this time it'll work out...

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Francois Piraux ‏@F8Piraux

Jose Mourinho has been in contact with Chelsea's owner Abramovich and senior Chelsea players and staff. (Express Sport) #CFC#TheSpecialOne

[Blue Gino 377]

Mourinho's return would be Roman's attempt of soothing over the Benitez hiring with the fans and the loss of Lampard if anything. Roman might as well since managers don't trust the guy with being able to last more than six months. Of course the last time a manager talked about how great the EPL is he went to Germany the next day.