The Benitez Thread

[Blue Armour 4,459]

You kidding? we go 2-0 up away from home and he puts on an attacker? As soon as Lampard scored, we should have subbed Torres for Terry swiched to 5-4-1 with Oscar up top and Lampard pushing forward. Azpi and Cole could have still pushed forward to add numbers up the park and Ramires could have covered in front of the defence. We would have still controlled the MF and choked there attack.

Fucking Fat stupid prick is trying to win over the crowed with goals when he knows he should have switched to a defensive, time wasting strategy.

Not vouching for Benitez, but that would have been extreme and could have just as easily led to an equalizer. There were already 5 defenders on the pitch. Bringing on Terry might have added solidity at the back, but it could have also invited Reading to come forward and flood the midfield.

Face it, we dominated this match for large stages and should have won by at least 3 goals if it weren't for Oscar's poor finishing. Ivanovic and Turnbull didn't do well for LeFondre's opener.

Where Benitez, or at least someone in charge of the setpiece coaching, really screwed up was for the equalizer, were the marking just wasn't there.

Also, none of the defenders seemed to give a shit about LeFondre. Wonder what kind of advice the opposition scout gave the players....

[Blue Armour 4,459]

2-0 up with 87 minutes played and it's his fault?? Ivanovic not trying his hardest on the first goal his fault?? 3 Reading players standing by themselves on the far post his fault?? Oscar missing multiple shots in front of goal his fault?? Doesn't make sense to me. I want him gone but sometimes it gets overwhelming how much he gets blamed for stuff he can't control. The players deserve alot of flak that they currently aren't receiving; Ivanovic and Cahill have cost us mightily, Ramires and Lampard lose balls on stupid body turns in the middle of the field, Oscar isn't comfortable with people are around him, Torres is Torres, Ryan is out of position so it is not fair to criticise him. The only players that act like they care are Terry,Lampard, Mata, Petr, and Cesar.

Its not the first time Brana has gone brain-dead this season...Probably best to put him back in the RB position, where mistakes are less costly.

[robdog 2,084]

2-0 up with 87 minutes played and it's his fault?? Ivanovic not trying his hardest on the first goal his fault?? 3 Reading players standing by themselves on the far post his fault?? Oscar missing multiple shots in front of goal his fault?? Doesn't make sense to me. I want him gone but sometimes it gets overwhelming how much he gets blamed for stuff he can't control. The players deserve alot of flak that they currently aren't receiving; Ivanovic and Cahill have cost us mightily, Ramires and Lampard lose balls on stupid body turns in the middle of the field, Oscar isn't comfortable with people are around him, Torres is Torres, Ryan is out of position so it is not fair to criticise him. The only players that act like they care are Terry,Lampard, Mata, Petr, and Cesar.

IMHO not bringing in JT in the last 10 minutes were costly. I heard/read telly tubby didn't think he could bring in JT cause it wasn't enough time to do so? Huh? Never heard of time wasting? This is the shit I am talking about. This is the shit why people are pissed at rafa. You might not think it's not his fault but I beg to differ. Agree to disagree buddy.

[Ankit 3,176]

[bluephoenix 1,131]

Out out out without a doubt ! Rafa Benitez out !

And add to that our board is out of their minds to have appointed him in the first place !

[didierforever 7,349]

there was a time when i looked forward to a chelsea match... i wanted nothing more than to see chelsea play... it used to be the highlight of my week... i would fight with my parents, my friends, my girlfriend, any and evey1 to just leave me alone to watch the boys in blue. mostly because i knew it would be worth it. watching DD, ballack, essien, makelele, JT, lamps fight it out and slug it out. no matter what u knew u would get a 100% from these players. u would get fight, u would see character... but now NOTHING... ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING... we got a team with absolutely no character. we refuse to learn from our mistakes (what no. of 2-0 leads have we dropped). i remember the 2010-11 season when, i think, we dint drop even drop points when we went ahead and now this.

plus we have a manager who could not tell the difference between the skills of messi/ronaldo and a bloody buffalo... 4-2-3-1 is probably the only thing he was ever thought and he thinks if he changes that formantion then the team would automatically lose. his substitutions are PATHETIC... i mean bert for cole against swanseas, azpi for iva against brentford, ba for torres... I KNEW THAT JT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FUCKING ON... my grandmother could have done that sub and she knows nothin about football...

this club has right now lost its identity... last night i could hardly believe that it was my chelsea that was playing... something immense has to be done and i know exactly where to start...

KICK THAT FUCKING FAT SPANISH WAITER OUT...

[didierforever 7,349]

http://www.ibtimes.com/sportsnet/chelsea-fc-news-benitez-has-go-roman-abramovich-wont-pull-trigger-1050610

sums it up perfectly...

[didierforever 7,349]

WHO IS STILL VOTING NO IN THIS SHIT????

torres fanboys and wankers... wat do u expect of them???

worse are the people who are still ""UNDECIDED""... what more do u want to see to "decide" that fsw is an incompetent cunt not worth a penny...

[Billy. 2,742]

Moyes all day long he will sort out the fucking egos we have at our club. Its not all Rafas fault witch pains me to say

[teignman 441]

I laughed when I read the article about Rafa being perplexed, because honestly I have been perplexed since he was name manager. He can't see what he is doing because his double chin and belly prevent him from seeing the pitch… or maybe that is where his brain is hiding because the tactical part must be focused on food not football! I am tired of watching him screw up the game with his weird substitutions.

This clinches it for me. If one of the nicest, most positive people on the forum has been moved to bear her fangs due to the ineptitude of our interim manager, he has to go.

[gary gordon 1,777]

Moyes all day long he will sort out the fucking egos we have at our club. Its not all Rafas fault witch pains me to say

Sorry to say, it will only end in him getting the sack. You can't go head to head with the players at this club. You need to feed there egos, not shoot them down.. I hate the way it is, but we are the galacticos of England. Egos got AVB sacked, egos won us the champions league.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

torres fanboys and wankers... wat do u expect of them???

worse are the people who are still ""UNDECIDED""... what more do u want to see to "decide" that fsw is an incompetent cunt not worth a penny...

What a daft opinion to have. Most of the people who have voted no or are undecided most likely ponder if sacking him during the season would bring any positive effect at all. Nothing to do with being somehow Torres fanboy nor any other adjective from your educative vocabulary.

[Kojo 4,676]

It's fair to say, he's a shit manager, come on Gus, get your arse here now.

[Billy. 2,742]

Sorry to say, it will only end in him getting the sack. You can't go head to head with the player at this club. You need to feed there egos, not shoot them down.. I hate the way it is, but we are the galacticos of England. Egos got AVB sacked, egos won us the champions league.

your prob right mate but i just like us all want out club back

[Stingray 9,441]

Well, well, well. Haven't we hit a new low yesterday.

The way I see it it is due to a set of different causes:

1. Somehow there seems to be complacency in the team after the CL cup. A bit of drive is gone in the old guard.

2. New signings that haven't paid of yet (Oscar, Marin - even Hazard had issues november/december)

3. Instability due to sacking of trainer that was loved but failed to deliver in the eyes of the board.

4. The arrival of the hated FSW - who seems to continue on RDM's tactics, only with much more rigid attacking lines. This is NOT resulting in a big increase in defensive stability, but more a decrease in our offensive capabilities (I am NOT going to mention Torres - cunt). This you can notive by the lack of 'fluidity' and interchanging of positions in the attacking trio (which was much more the case with RDM)

5. THE INTERIM STATUS - This one reminds me of the belgian national team, where after the devils failed to get a spot in the South Africa World cup, Vandereycken was replaced by ..... an interim coach Franky Vercauteren (former Anderlecht trainer). This resulted in SHIT performances of a team that lost all confidence and did not look up to the Interim Coach. Vercauteren quit his job, stating he didn't want to work with that team anymore. He also added there is nothing more ungrateful than being the mere interim I think this is pretty much the same situation here. Our players hate Rafa much like we do. You don't grow 'bigger' than yourself for a guy like him. He's hated, does stupid subs, keeps the faith in Torres which is backfiring confidence -wise. conclusion: he has NO authority anymore.

6. We are way too thin in the squad. We have a long term vision now maybe after a long time, but the lack of short term is killing us right now. It should be balanced.

7. The fashionable 4231 with the 'pivot' is really not creating the defensive stability it is designed for - nor does it generate enough attacking power (Torres), also because of the lack of connection between the 2 and the 31. We simply have a gap there - no pace in ball playing and too much lateral thinking. You can easily spot it because by the second half our maestros seem to be getting fed up with it and drop down to pick up the ball. Hence: even more loss of offensive force and loss of holding power up front resulting in quick deadly counters. even by fucking QPR, Reading and the likes.

So ....

1. Sack Benitez and get a manager that has more 'status'. Someone the players can believe in that will be here for a long time. That will change their mind set.

2. Create Width in the team: an extra CM, get KDB (pivot + can fill in for the 3), Courtois (Turnbull sucks and oozes failure) and Lukaku (he does well and deserves a shot - much more than Torres who 'in extremis' is much more suited anywhere NOT in the target spot) back

3. Hope to god the board gives that manager freedom and time

This is bad.

Edit: sorry for the typos. Ipad writing is hard!

[Fulham Broadway 17,350]

Reminder ;

The Fat cunt is still here scoffing his face and....

After being in charge for 20 competitive games (as many as RDM got this season), Rafa has:
- Won fewer games
- Lost more matches
- Drawn more matches

[SinineUltra 1,170]

Well, well, well. Haven't we hit a new low yesterday.

The way I see it it is due to a set of different causes:

1. Somehow there seems to be complacency in the team after the CL cup. A bit of drive is gone in the old guard.

2. New signings that haven't paid of yet (Oscar, Marin - even Hazard had issues november/december)

3. Instability due to sacking of trainer that was loved but failed to deliver in the eyes of the board.

4. The arrival of the hated FSW - who seems to continue on RDM's tactics, only with much more rigid attacking lines. This NOT resulting in a big increase in defensive stability, but an decrease in our offensive capabilities (I am NOT going to mention Torres - cunt). This you can notive by the lack of 'fluidity' and interchanging of positions in the attacking trio (which was much more the case with RDM)

5. THE INTERIM STATUS - This one reminds me of the belgian national team, where after the devils failed to get a spot in the South Africa World cup, Vandereycken was replaced by ..... an interim coach Franky Vercauteren (former Anderlecht trainer). This resulted in SHIT performances of a team that lost all confidence and did not look up to the Interim Coach. Vercauteren quit his job, stating he didn't want to work with that team anymore. He also added there is nothing more ungrateful than being the mere interim I think this is pretty much the same situation here. Our players hate Rafa much like we do. You don't grow 'bigger' than yourself for a guy like him. He's hated, does stupid subs, keeps the faith in Torres which is backfiring confidence -wise. conclusion: he has NO authority anymore.

6. We are way to thin in the squad. We have a long term vision now maybe after a long time, but the lack of short term is killing us right now. It should be balanced.

7. The fashionable 4231 with the 'pivot' is really creating the defensive stability is is designed for - nor does it generate enough attacking power (Torres), also because of the lack of connection between the 2 and the 31. We simply have a gap there - no pace in ball playing and to much lateral thinking. You can easily spot it because by the second half our maestros seem to be getting fed up with it and drop down to pick up the ball. Hence: even more loss of offensive force and loss of holding power up front resulting in quick deadly counters. even by fucking QPR, Reading and the likes.

So ....

1. Sack Benitez and get a manager that has more 'status'. Someone the players can believe in that will be here for a long time. That will chang their mind set.

2. Create Width in the team: an extra CM, get KDB (pivot + can fill in for the 3), Courtois (Turnbull sucks and oozes failure) and Lukaku (he does well and deserves a shot - much more than Torres who 'in extremis' is much more suited anywhere NOT in the target spot) back

3. Hope to god the board gives that manager freedom and time

This is bad.

Good insightful post, not one of those knee jerk ones. Really like it and agree with you. Only thing I fail to see is why do people want to put KDB in the pivot role? Equivalent to Lamps in the pivot, Oscar on the wing and Bertrand LW. A bit out of position, don't you agree? Cavani/Ba/Lukaku would be a dream striking force for us when we stick to our 1 ST formation.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

double

[Stingray 9,441]

Good insightful post, not one of those knee jerk ones. Really like it and agree with you. Only thing I fail to see is why do people want to put KDB in the pivot role? Equivalent to Lamps in the pivot, Oscar on the wing and Bertrand LW. A bit out of position, don't you agree? Cavani/Ba/Lukaku would be a dream striking force for us when we stick to our 1 ST formation.

Depends on what kind of Pivot you play. There are variants. I would put him in the more forward going position. He is cultured enough for that and would link great with the attacking trio. However, you would need a true destroyer besides him that also falls deep to the defence when a striker moves between the lines. We don't have that .....

Capoué?

[The Skipper 20,609]

Reminder ;

The Fat cunt is still here scoffing his face and....

After being in charge for 20 competitive games (as many as RDM got this season), Rafa has:

- Won fewer games

- Lost more matches

- Drawn more matches

Despite having an easier run in.

It's such a joke. Cannot believe RDM got sacked for this (excuse my French) cunt.