The Benitez Thread

[bushman 2,043]

if the players were not upto it then i am sorry to say IT IS RAFA'S FAULT. we were playing in a final. a manager/coach is supposed to keep his players hungry for suxh matches, infact particularly for such matches. the "players were not upto it" excuse simply backfires.

May I remind you Rafa is the coach & not the one who scores goals. Players are responsible for scoring, simple as that.

He came to Chelsea when the club was in bad form. Ever since, he made them better, the results are there for us all to see. So far, so good, I feel.

[Madmax 9,219]

May I remind you Rafa is the coach & not the one who scores goals. Players are responsible for scoring, simple as that.

If you're going down that route then it's the players who've scored 14 in 3 since Japan, not Rafa; thus they deserve all the credit, not Rafa.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Didn't Corinthians' keeper get MOTM in that game? On another day we win that but we just didn't have luck on our side. If it was an important trophy I'd probably be a bit more pissed but as long as the improvement continues it was just a stepping stone to get back in the title race (hopefully).

[bushman 2,043]

Any trophy is nice to have, I feel. However, the team is just getting better & better, lately.

Since so many games are played, the team can not be up for them all. Some you win, some you don´t.

For me PL, CL, FA & perhaps Carling Cup are important. Mavbe even Europa league, not sure here. Thursdays games & then Sundays just might be too much to overcome.

If Rafa can help the team in winning FA or Carling just to save this season, Chelsea qualifies for CL I just might be satisfied...?

My biggest wish is to see the club playing games that I can watch & be proud of the team. No more of that park the bus shit, for me.

[didierforever 7,349]

May I remind you Rafa is the coach & not the one who scores goals. Players are responsible for scoring, simple as that.

He came to Chelsea when the club was in bad form. Ever since, he made them better, the results are there for us all to see. So far, so good, I feel.

then y should he get the plaudits for the results and improvements. its the players who have scored the goals and won us 3 out of 3 sunce the japan fiasco.

[Rupert 130]

and maybe you can become benitez's whore or is it only for him that u r supporting us. now i know the first person out of this forum when benitez gets a kick on his ass at the end of the season.

The difference between you and me is that I want Chelsea to win and be Champions. You want them to lose and crash out because of your irrational hatred of Rafa whom you know very little about. You keep trying to make the case that it was Rafa who failed at the CWC but if the team had won you would have been the first to say Rafa had nothing to do with it and that it was really RDM victory. That's what Mourinho said when Rafa won the CWC at InterMilan It's what Ferguson said the day Rafa was appointed to Chelsea. You can huff and puff all you wan,t the fact is that Chelsea offered Rafa the job - he accepted it and he is now part of the club. If you want Mourinho go and support Real Madrid or whichever team he finishes up with once he gets the sack. It won't be Chelsea.

[didierforever 7,349]

Any trophy is nice to have, I feel. However, the team is just getting better & better, lately.

Since so many games are played, the team can not be up for them all. Some you win, some you don´t.

For me PL, CL, FA & perhaps Carling Cup are important. Mavbe even Europa league, not sure here. Thursdays games & then Sundays just might be too much to overcome.

If Rafa can help the team in winning FA or Carling just to save this season, Chelsea qualifies for CL I just might be satisfied...?

My biggest wish is to see the club playing games that I can watch & be proud of the team. No more of that park the bus shit, for me.

suppose we were in the cl now and got barca... do u actually think we can even give them a fight if we dont "park the bus and shit" as u said...

[didierforever 7,349]

The difference between you and me is that I want Chelsea to win and be Champions. You want them to lose and crash out because of your irrational hatred of Rafa whom you know very little about. You keep trying to make the case that it was Rafa who failed at the CWC but if the team had won you would have been the first to say Rafa had nothing to do with it and that it was really RDM victory. That's what Mourinho said when Rafa won the CWC at InterMilan It's what Ferguson said the day Rafa was appointed to Chelsea. You can huff and puff all you wan,t the fact is that Chelsea offered Rafa the job - he accepted it and he is now part of the club. If you want Mourinho go and support Real Madrid or whichever team he finishes up with once he gets the sack. It won't be Chelsea.

first of all that statement was not for u and y u r getting all excited over a statement i made on @the only place to be and later cleared things (i hope so) with the concerned person. so as i see that keep your nose out of other people's business.

secondly i have seen your posts and u tell me to go and support real madrid when all your posts have been in the benitez thread. seems like u r getting very carried away dude.

thirdly i dont need to answer some idiot who goes on trolling about rafa vs mou and when twice i have given u stats which u have not even been able to reply too. so settle yourself and know your damn place. support rafa (and chelsea for the time being) and soon as he goes after 6 months, take another break of 2 years because rafa is not gonna get a job.

[zolayes 14,489]

rafa gets manager of the week ,,,,he deserves manager of month for december ....thats usually a curse MOM then sack

[bushman 2,043]

then y should he get the plaudits for the results and improvements. its the players who have scored the goals and won us 3 out of 3 sunce the japan fiasco.

Have I not said I do not care how many honors Rafa gets ?

Rafa implements the tactics & players adhere to it or not. The glory is attributed to the goal scorers.

[Rupert 130]

first of all that statement was not for u and y u r getting all excited over a statement i made on @the only place to be and later cleared things (i hope so) with the concerned person. so as i see that keep your nose out of other people's business.

secondly i have seen your posts and u tell me to go and support real madrid when all your posts have been in the benitez thread. seems like u r getting very carried away dude.

thirdly i dont need to answer some idiot who goes on trolling about rafa vs mou and when twice i have given u stats which u have not even been able to reply too. so settle yourself and know your damn place. support rafa (and chelsea for the time being) and soon as he goes after 6 months, take another break of 2 years because rafa is not gonna get a job.

It must be hard being you - wincing every time Chelsea score and win under Rafa.

[didierforever 7,349]

Have I not said I do not care how many honors Rafa gets ?

Rafa implements the tactics & players adhere to it or not. The glory is attributed to the goal scorers.

dude just one question to end the debate. were u satisfied with rafa's tactics in the match against corianthians?

[didierforever 7,349]

It must be hard being you - wincing every time Chelsea score and win under Rafa.

not at all. its still chelsea. except for the leeds match when it seemed likely that rafa might get the kick if we lose.

but must be so easy being you. dont care about the club, infact change your loyalties with the FSW and infact dont care if we win or not until rafa's pockets are getting filled.

and another good side stepping from the main topic. as soon as u r getting your ass kicked in a discussion lets just divert the topic or simply not answer.

[bushman 2,043]

suppose we were in the cl now and got barca... do u actually think we can even give them a fight if we dont "park the bus and shit" as u said...

If we were to play an open game against them, I doubt it. However, Chelsea seems to have their numbers. Therefore, I honestly do not know. Also, I do not speculate much on the outcome of games. Every game is different.

[bushman 2,043]

dude just one question to end the debate. were u satisfied with rafa's tactics in the match against corianthians?

Since I am not the manager, I do not like to respond to it.

Are you experienced enough to choose the line up differently ?

[didierforever 7,349]

If we were to play an open game against them, I doubt it. However, Chelsea seems to have their numbers. Therefore, I honestly do not know. Also, I do not speculate much on the outcome of games. Every game is different.

we seem to have their number on the park the bus tactic. rdm did what was best for the club. did we park the bus against tottenham in fa cup semi or pool in the final or qpr. we did what was essential to win. lets not call it "park the bus and shit"... its demeaning...

[didierforever 7,349]

Since I am not the manager, I do not like to respond to it.

Are you experienced enough to choose the line up differently ?

i am experienced enough now to know the line up and if it would work and escpecially i can see if a player is not playing well enough and substituting him.

but i can see that u r completely prejudiced not to give rafa the blame (thankfully most of the people here do, it was not even me with whom u were having initial discussion). so we are just wasting our time in this discussion. maybe some1 else can make u see it.

[bushman 2,043]

i am experienced enough now to know the line up and if it would work and escpecially i can see if a player is not playing well enough and substituting him.

but i can see that u r completely prejudiced not to give rafa the blame (thankfully most of the people here do, it was not even me with whom u were having initial discussion). so we are just wasting our time in this discussion. maybe some1 else can make u see it.

You are just another poster. Whether you feel you could line up the team differently, well that´s your prerogative.

As for your assumptions of me being prejudice & all that....I would be much more happier if you refrain from your advice. Someone like you have nothing to teach me. Thanks for your chatting. Keep on trucking.