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Yes and no.

We need a goalscorer but we also need a player that brings more to the table than just finishing off moves. We need a forward that is technically good and able to be part of the build-up, can pass and assist. Think of somebody like Anelka here.

Our options up top are so weak one player isn't enough. We need two players, with one being an out-and-out striker and the other being an all-round type forward would be ideal. Look at the variation Utd and City have; Dzeko, Aguero, Tevez, Rooney, Van Persie, Hernandez etc. All different type of players who bring something different.

Not many all around striker out there, having said that there were two players that were available last summer ibra and rvp. We decided not to pursue either of them.

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Just get Darren Bent, i'm not even joking.

I do think we won't sign a big paycheck in January, we would actually need a goal poacher, someone to score when he has an opportunity.

I'm stil convinced Torres will fix his finishing issues. Anyway, since the January transfer market that's up to him. And if he's still not able to score, we will have to look at someone else but probably next summer. Until then, someone like Bent would be one of a good acquisition yeah, especially since he fallen out with Lambert.

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I could never accept Darren Bent playing for Chelsea. He's a former Spurs striker.

Let's invest in a youngster with plenty of ability...someone like Aubameyang in the summer.

@SeB, your the french league expert on this forum, what's your opinion on Aubameyang, could he play for a club like Chelsea?

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I suppose you still believe in the tooth fairy?

That's the first time since he's at Chelsea that he gets regular service, the finishing is really up to him. Last season it would have been dumb to blame it for not being at the right place considering the chances were unpredictable and either long clerances, lucky lay offs, pieces of brilliance etc... Since he got decent finishing figures

http://theweststando...-front-of-goal/

That's different from the ability to find separation etc... I'm only speaking about the finishing thing

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I could never accept Darren Bent playing for Chelsea. He's a former Spurs striker.

Let's invest in a youngster with plenty of ability...someone like Aubameyang in the summer.

@SeB, your the french league expert on this forum, what's your opinion on Aubameyang, could he play for a club like Chelsea?

Yes but said Levy is a kind of twat on twitter :lol:

Aubameyang is definitely interesting, it's been a few years that he roams in the French league without having a genuine impact (his father was a scout for Milan, he started his career here and was lonaed to Dijon, Monaco, Lille etc...). He's the Ligue 1 topscorer for 2012 with Sainté.

I've not seen him that much but he's quite versatile, he can play alone upfront, in support, as a wide forward. Can ask through space due to his pace or drop from upfront considering he's not uneasy with the ball. He presses well, well positioned in the box. Can create chances for others as well

But he's Malouda's haircut from his last season at Chelsea :ph34r:

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I've no idea how people think Jovetic could be good enough to lead our line. Remember Arsenal being 'scared' of Drogba? Drogba 'bullying' defenders etc?

I know we're supposed to move on, but little Jovetic isn't exactly the most intimidating or motivational figure... which is what we need up front to compliment our silky smooth passers. He scores a bit, he can dribble well and can pass well - but can he hold up the ball? Can he use strength vs. defenders to his advantage? Can he be an aerial threat?

Little Jovetic? Jovetic is about 6 ft tall. That isn't little. Hes more than good enough to lead our line as well, hes such a good player. Now the fact we play this expansive passing game, we shouldn't be looking for a Drogba-esque striker who bullies defenders. We need a quick, fleet footed player who can make good runs in behind and finish the chances off as well as link up with the 3 behind him. Jovetic is more than capable. Hes such a good player, its unreal. If he played for any of Inter/Milan/Napoli/Juve everyone would rave about him as if hes the Montenegrin Messi! He is also capable of scoring headers but still at set pieces we have Cahill, JT, Branna, and Torres who are all at least 6 ft and over who could get headed goals from set plays.

But he's Malouda's haircut from his last season at Chelsea :ph34r:

Thought it was more like Neymar's no?! :Goober:

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Not many all around striker out there, having said that there were two players that were available last summer ibra and rvp. We decided not to pursue either of them.

I doubt Arsenal would have sold RVP to Chelsea and even if they would have they got about £25m off Utd for a near 30 year old in the final year of his contract. They would have tried to charge us double.

Ibrahimovic was never an option. Too much of a high earner that only PSG could offer him a way out of Milan.

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That's the first time since he's at Chelsea that he gets regular service, the finishing is really up to him. Last season it would have been dumb to blame it for not being at the right place considering the chances were unpredictable and either long clerances, lucky lay offs, pieces of brilliance etc... Since he got decent finishing figures

http://theweststando...-front-of-goal/

That's different from the ability to find separation etc... I'm only speaking about the finishing thing

He went 24 hours without a goal last season, I don't care if we were pumping the ball at 200 miles an hour - that type performance would only be alright for a striker in the Conference League.

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He went 24 hours without a goal last season, I don't care if we were pumping the ball at 200 miles an hour - that type performance would only be alright for a striker in the Conference League.

Yeah, especially considering everything worked well. 6th place in the table, manager sacked, sunday league tactical gameplan, scrappy goals conceded, unability to create chances to score... Torres was arguably the main issue last season.

When some will understand that if Torres has been below expectations mentally, physically and statistically speaking in an team at least as bad as he has been, that'll be a massive step for mankind. The 1st aspects added to the second one, no way the 1st one implied the second as some would make people think

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Yeah, especially considering everything worked well. 6th place in the table, manager sacked, sunday league tactical gameplan, scrappy goals conceded, unability to create chances to score... Torres was arguably the main issue last season.

That is no excuse for the most expensive and highest paid player to be so ineffectual at doing what he was bough for - simple as that it's simply an excuse for him not living up to his old capabilities.

When some will understand that if Torres has been below expectations mentally, physically and statistically speaking in an team at least as bad as he has been, that'll be a massive step for mankind. The 1st aspects added to the second one, no way the 1st one implied the second as some would make people think

I would not say that the team was as bad as Torres, this is the same team which won the CL and FA Cup last season while Torres performed like a Conference Level Journeymen striker.

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That is no excuse for the most expensive and highest paid player to be so ineffectual at doing what he was bough for - simple as that it's simply an excuse for him not living up to his old capabilities.

Money buys competency, not footballing skills. That's not "the most you pay a player, the better he gets". That's where the link is completely lost with the game in itself, every player has to be played in decent conditions whaterver money he has been brought for.

Torres adapted to 4 different playing styles, made an awful lot of runs since he's there. What's funny is that people only notice his movements when he doesn't moves because he asks the ball on his feet. Anyway...

It's hard to deny that Torres did crystallize most part of the desastrous sporting policy led since Scolari came in. It's seems like the kids' approach after losing 8-0: we lost because of the goalkeeper

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Money buys competency, not footballing skills. That's not "the most you pay a player, the better he gets". That's where the link is completely lost with the game in itself, every player has to be played in decent conditions whaterver money he has been brought for.

Torres adapted to 4 different playing styles, made an awful lot of runs since he's there. What's funny is that people only notice his movements when he doesn't moves because he asks the ball on his feet. Anyway...

It's hard to deny that Torres did crystallize most part of the desastrous sporting policy led since Scolari came in. It's seems like the kids' approach after losing 8-0: we lost because of the goalkeeper

SeB Torres doesn't move inside the box. He is the most static striker in the League when it comes to movement inside the box. His movement is distinctly outside the box. Even at Liverpool his movement inside the box during open play was appalling he still wanted the ball into his feet inside the box - difference is that he had the capability to get a shot off. At Chelsea he is still waiting for the ball into his feet inside the box - but this will not happen because we face teams which won't allow that type of space and he no longer is able to eliminate defenders like he used to with nutmegs and acceleration.

Adapting to 4 different tactics is something you would say about someone who actually manages to play well in 4 different systems - fact is that Torres has been really effective in two systems and those two systems relied on skills and confidence he no longer possesses and both those two systems were contrived by Benitez to get the best out of him and Gerrard. But both those systems relied upon Torres's speed; acceleration and confidence - while what we received is a hesitant striker who is moaning about our tactical setups rather than doing his part in them.

Whether you feel that the fee is immaterial for his overall performance is another matter - to me if a player demands to be the top payed player at a club and an automatic starter there are expectations bestowed upon him which are far greater than a guy like Kalou who is making one third of his wages. Fact is Kalou played decently in a variety of systems without ever being thrust into an automatic starting position. Torres placed the pressure upon himself by negotiating such a wage and forcing himself out of Liverpool - so it's not something we can blame entirely on our management. Three managers have had the opportunity to install confidence into Torres and systems and tactics are an excuse which is getting tiring if you are truely a World Class player you need to step up in a variety of setups and systems. Berbatov for example never really hit it off in United's system which relied on his direct compatitor Rooney far too much - but still Berba managed to have a far better overall impact on that squad than Torres. Anelka only really had half a season at our Club in a system that truly suited him - he still managed to make himself an overall good signing for his time here. Sheva tried to adapt his game while he was at CFC and despite never working out for him - he still managed to do better than Torres.

There are countless examples and your comments are just miss directed - we have had 2 years with Torres at the club and patience has ran out for the majority of us.

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