Styles 9,790 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Great to win but compliments to Shakhtar. They are really good. I fancy them to go far if they get out of the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 We simply need to better Shakhtar's results. The perfect scenario is that they drop points to Nodsjelland that way we can afford a draw against Juve. If we beat Juve and they go out, then they will have very little motivation to get anything from Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=427SLSu8SnU&feature=g-u-u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Even if we lost at Juventus, we still have a decent chance to go through although I hate leaving our fate up to others. (assuming we beat Nordsjaelland at home and if we can't, we don't deserve to go through). If Juventus wins both games, they'll be at 12 points and we'll qualify. If Shakhtar wins both games, they'll be at 13 points and we'll still qualify. If either team drop points next game, we'll qualify. If Juventus and Shakhtar win next match day and then draw on the final day, we'd be out. It will be interesting to see how RDM plays it because we gave Juventus too much room in the centre of midfield at the Bridge and were guilty of doing the same today. If we can't mark the trailing man in the box, we'll get beaten. Something we need to work on in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 fantastic referee, one of the best performances from a referee i've seen in my lifehe was absolutely flawlessit was a nice change from the shitty english referees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 What a game! Fantastic football from both sides, it has to be said. I think shaktar is a really really good team, real strong.Chelsea:Torres: lucky goal but not goodLuiz: omg, every time he got the ball i began shaking from fearHazard: worked very hard, also defensivelyOscar: what a goalMozes: sublimeMata: good as alwaysIvanovic: best defender tonight imoCahill : no opinionRamires: not good todayMikel: worked very hardCech: the goals weren't his faultBertrand: had difficulties covering his flankWhat the?! I thought Ramires was brilliant and did more than well. And he has done ever since playing in the double pivot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 fantastic referee, one of the best performances from a referee i've seen in my lifehe was absolutely flawlessit was a nice change from the shitty english refereesGood but certainly not flawless. We should be awarded a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 fantastic referee, one of the best performances from a referee i've seen in my lifehe was absolutely flawlessit was a nice change from the shitty english refereesFlawless? Failed to give a clear penalty on Ramires. Fernandinho made 6-7 fouls but didn't get a single yellow and then you have our players getting booked after just 1-3 fouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Among the 2 Central defenders, Cahill is clearly much more Reliable than Luiz. that's 3 solid performances from Cahill now. no point saying Luiz is better when he keeps getting turned and makes rash challenges every game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I don't agree, even if he is a winger, he must defend first. He should always be helping the man behind him when the team is defending. It is not something extra, it is how the system works. If one player does not so his job the system fails and we concede goals as we have seen the past few matches.And didn't he do this? in fact he has been doing this. He and mostly Bertrand fucked up on their goal, no need to over analyze it and put all the blame on a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Among the 2 Central defenders, Cahill is clearly much more Reliable than Luiz. that's 3 solid performances from Cahill now. no point saying Luiz is better when he keeps getting turned and makes rash challenges every gameCahill needs a more disciplined CB alongside him (eg. Terry or Brana). Luiz is a good player, he knows how to defend..but he needs to seriously improve his decision-making, I mean you can't just run half way up the pitch whenever you feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Cahill needs a more disciplined CB alongside him (eg. Terry or Brana). Luiz is a good player, he knows how to defend..but he needs to seriously improve his decision-making, I mean you can't just run half way up the pitch whenever you feel like it.it doesn't end with the pointless forays up the pitch. he has made most fouls among our defenders. i know he is the aggressor but 19 fouls in 12 appearances is a bit too much. Cahill on the other hand has made just 4 fouls in 8 appearances. Big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Ha! Apparently, Conte exploded in rage when someone celebrated Moses's late goal last night in their press room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Why does Luiz always foul the striker when the ball is in the air? it keeps happening. Other CB's will just stay close to him, but Luiz always fouls...always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFCRazor 49 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Fuck stats, we can all see the silly mistakes he keeps making on the pitch.No one else keeps making mistakes either do they *cough* Cahill. I hate how people complain about the team when we win, bad enough when we lose. Anyway, RDM is 100% behind Luiz so like it or lump it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I honestly think we should try cahill terry and give it a chance not one match, then change. David luiz can then be very uesful as a sub, when needed. For now our defence should concentrate on being solid and then we can think more attacking from the back. Cahill and terry i think is our best CB partnership we have, in terms of pure defensive abilities. Not to mention the arial power of cahill, terry and ivan from corners and set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 No one else keeps making mistakes either do they *cough* Cahill. I hate how people complain about the team when we win, bad enough when we lose. Anyway, RDM is 100% behind Luiz so like it or lump it!Actually no one makes mistakes more than Luiz. And i'm glad we won, more than glad even. But Luiz's bad play is not helping our cause.We already have a shaky defence without him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Based on recent performances,Cahill does not deserve to sit on the bench.Terry and Cahill are in my opinion our strongest center back combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFCRazor 49 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Mod, could you change the name of this thread to Defensive team selections and move it to another forum please? Kthx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different level 1,056 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Moses definitely made my evening just as thoughts of having to watch my favourite team on thursday evening started to fill my head. Expected an easier match than the one in Donetsk but that wasn't the case, in fact we were quite lucky to get away with that victory. Ramires was off his usually high standards, Cahill and especially Luiz made a bit too much mistakes, but Betrand was our worst player last night as he was totally raped by Willian and was caught out of his position way too often leaving huge spaces for the curly afroman. Nando and Oscar had good first half both taking advantage of Shakhtar keeper's brain fades, but were a bit lost on the pitch after the break. Otherwise things are looking good, a draw in Turin and we are past the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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