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[DYC. 7,542]

Use my eyes?

Every site out there has Sturridge being taller than Torres.

Those are the facts, footballers have an yearly medical if Torres was taller than Sturridge it would have been reflected in at least one site that provides such information.

Like I said I've given you links stating that Torres is in fact shorter than Sturridge - not that I personally think it makes any difference.

Never mind.

[Hutcho 8,443]

[Las7 951]

MIKEL is taller lets play him up top!

[Mufassir08 2,400]

MIKEL is taller lets play him up top!

How about jamal blackman?heard he is an absolute giant.

[TheCount 146]

Ok, but in all honesty, we are most successful going down the middle or cutting inside from wide positions. We don't do as many standard crosses, and in general when we do they are unsuccessful as in comparison to defenders torres isn't that good in the air. For the 3 AM's we have there is a higher priority for players who will latch onto through balls and get shots off. RDM will go with torres because he knows what we get with him and we have a great record so far this year. Hoprfully torres turns up and does to man u what he used to when he played for liverpool, as we would all love it. You don't know how much i want to be proven wrong but I as a lot of people just feel the same way when torres gets the ball with time in a dangerous area.

I wouldnt say most successful going down the middle or cutting inside, more like unwilling to do anything eles but i agree with the rest, neither striker is going to latch onto the balls how the behind players play would like tho and if i had to choose on the rest of the points for each, i would pick torres for what ive already explained. Its not all about height and in the air that was just one point in favour. It seems people ironicaly just want to "latch" on to that instead . Anyway we'll leave it at that.

[Las7 951]

Roman Sign him Up!

[Hutcho 8,443]

Roman Sign him Up!

Lets be honest... he would be a beast, though i would play him at CB.

Also, that picture is so funny, earl boykins 5ft 5 130lbs, the shaq 7ft 1, 330 lbs.

And thats nothing...

Bougues 5ft 3, and Bol 7ft 7

[Las7 951]

Lets be honest... he would be a beast, though i would play him at CB.

Also, that picture is so funny, earl boykins 5ft 5 130lbs, the shaq 7ft 1, 330 lbs.

Nah, he'd have to run too much as a CB I reckon Shaq could have easily been the player to fire Stoke to their first ever CL title

[Hutcho 8,443]

Nah, he'd have to run too much as a CB I reckon Shaq could have easily been the player to fire Stoke to their first ever CL title

Lol, but back on topic, i think if you ask a man u fan who would they prefer to see up top i would think they would prefer to see torres.

[didierforever 7,349]

Nah, he'd have to run too much as a CB I reckon Shaq could have easily been the player to fire Stoke to their first ever CL title

chill dude. got your point (but it was your fault to be drawn into an argument with torres fans, we all know how that goes).

[Las7 951]

Lol, but back on topic, i think if you ask a man u fan who would they prefer to see up top i would think they would prefer to see torres.

I don't get the impression from redcafe that they watch too many of our games - I think they don't even think there is a remote chance of Sturridge playing and they all rate Welbeck higher than Sturridge anyway. So in the off chance that Sturridge starts they are going to celebrate cause they all remember the Torres that used to take the mickey out of Vidic a few years back.

[Hutcho 8,443]

I don't get the impression from redcafe that they watch too many of our games - I think they don't even think there is a remote chance of Sturridge playing and they all rate Welbeck higher than Sturridge anyway. So in the off chance that Sturridge starts they are going to celebrate cause they all remember the Torres that used to take the mickey out of Vidic a few years back.

Yeah that is a good point... I could well be wrong on that one. Though there arn't many of us who truly believe anyone other than torres will start at ST.

[themightyblue 443]

The one thing I don't get about this Sturridge vs Torres debate is that people call for Sturridge to be number 1 striker on the basis of nothing. As things stand Torres deserves to be number 1 for the fact he's been playing this season, grabbed a few goals and linked up well with the trio behind him. Rather than make outlandish and baseless claims, we should wait and see what Sturridge can do as a CF and then make comparisons and judge.

ONTO THE GAME

I really get the feeling that Fergie is going to go with the Diamond formation as he has an on form Hernandez, RVP and Rooney and this will play into our hands as Carrick will most likely be the base of that diamond and Rooney the tip. Using Ramires and Oscar, we could really shut them out of the game and nullify the United threat. If Fergie went for his traditional wing play, then we could struggle, although it means more space in the middle for us

[didierforever 7,349]

we should wait and see what Sturridge can do as a CF and then make comparisons and judge.

WHEN?????

[Las7 951]

The one thing I don't get about this Sturridge vs Torres debate is that people call for Sturridge to be number 1 striker on the basis of nothing. As things stand Torres deserves to be number 1 for the fact he's been playing this season, grabbed a few goals and linked up well with the trio behind him. Rather than make outlandish and baseless claims, we should wait and see what Sturridge can do as a CF and then make comparisons and judge.

Based on outscoring Torres two years in a row maybe?

Based on outscoring Torres; Drogba and Anelka's combined tally while at Bolton?

Based on his footballing ability?

Based on being younger and having his best years ahead of him?

I don't know it annoys me, when people say Sturridge is unproven but yet forget that we have given Torres an automatic first team slot based on one and a half years of pain and misery for all parties involved.

[Hutcho 8,443]

The one thing I don't get about this Sturridge vs Torres debate is that people call for Sturridge to be number 1 striker on the basis of nothing. As things stand Torres deserves to be number 1 for the fact he's been playing this season, grabbed a few goals and linked up well with the trio behind him. Rather than make outlandish and baseless claims, we should wait and see what Sturridge can do as a CF and then make comparisons and judge.

ONTO THE GAME

I really get the feeling that Fergie is going to go with the Diamond formation as he has an on form Hernandez, RVP and Rooney and this will play into our hands as Carrick will most likely be the base of that diamond and Rooney the tip. Using Ramires and Oscar, we could really shut them out of the game and nullify the United threat. If Fergie went for his traditional wing play, then we could struggle, although it means more space in the middle for us

I don't think they are outlandish claims. We have seen what sturridge can do at striker from his loan spell at bolton. We have also seen his impact he has made in his rare appearances as sub. Most of the time he makes more of an impact than torres had done in his previous 75 mins on the pitch. And we can't really do a comparsion without giving him a chance. Also, he has grabbed some goals which everyone is glad at, however we do have hazard mata oscar behind him. As a trio that is probably up there in the top 4 AM trios in the world. As a lone striker with that creativity behind you, you should really be scoring goals. For me, it is clear who atm is the better out and out striker.

[Hutcho 8,443]

No one is saying if we play sturridge then we will have the equivilant of falcoa, but you are not human if you do not get slightly frustrated at the number of wasted oppertunites we are having atm. These oppertunities could well be at a premium especially against the likes of man utd. Furthermore, no one is "hating" torres, everyone gets behind him all the way when he plays for us and i will be exactly the same when he starts on sunday as he puts in a lot of effort; and anyone who wears our shirt deserves our support. However, it has to come to a point where putting in a lot of effort, isn't good enough. Danny starting one game doesn't spell the end of torres, but means he knows that he has competition for places, (which all the football pundits seem to think doesn't exist) so giving danny a chance has surely got to be worth trying. Maybe a league game vs united isn't the best time to make as big a change as switching strikers, but a league cup game vs them would be the perfect time to give him 90 mins and then if he plays well he gets to start at the weekend.

[Sheva. 5,373]

when people say Sturridge is unproven

He is as main striker. He did well for half a season as a winger, and did well at Bolton alongside Kevin Davies and Elmander pretty much beside them.

And like i've said over and over, we are just what? 8 games into the league season, and Sturridge is the only other option we have to Torres so he will start games, and more than in just cup games or whatever. Then we will all see how capable he is at the position.