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Can Chelsea play with a false #9 like Barcelona?


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We're already playing with a false number 9.

Seriously we already played with a false nine at Old Trafford in 2010: Anelka dropped deep and Malouda and Cole were hight up the pitch.

This sounds weird but I think Mata would be more ideal for the false 9 as he always seems to be dropping deep, also he doesn't have the greatest burst of place to run in behind defenses/defenders.

Impossible thing, Mata cannot keep the ball, he release it before being closed down and he's ridiculous on shoulder vs shoulder challenges... A false 9 has to be able to keep the ball because what makes the animation is the penetration from the attacking players in support, the false 9 has to be able to hold the ball and using his body to protect it when a support player attempts a 1-2 with him

Mata's quick, don't you ever noticed he gives the impression to be chased by the opponent when he has the ball ? His whole play is based on movement

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Well people at Barcelona would also say that its madness to play the false #9 tactic before it was even tried. Hey if Fabregas who is a slow CM can be a false #9 for Spain then i am absolutely sure that Hazard would be a much better false #9 because he has got way more attacking abilities than Fabregas. And i really do believe that this tactic would work because it has so much pace in it and the movement of every midfielder is great + Hazard proved that he can score goals in Lille.

I'd argue we have already been playing with a false number 9 and I for one have been moaning that we need a proper striker who makes runs in the box if we are achieve anything this season.

Besides, the playing style associated with playing a false 9, i.e. tiki taka keep the ball until tomorrow bullshit, first contradicts with Chelsea's identity and more importantly does not work in the PL. I would like to see Barca score against the like of Stoke, Westham...etc.

Stoke and Westham etc would actually struggle, because they would not handle the pace. You always see Stoke and other physically strong teams in the EPL struggle with Arsenal you know why? Because Arsenal plays tiki taka football and they cant handle the movement,the pace, the dribbling and the passing etc. I for one think this would be a great tactic and we would be a force. And it would make Hazard an even better/more complete player.

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Stoke and Westham etc would actually struggle, because they would not handle the pace. You always see Stoke and other physically strong teams in the EPL struggle with Arsenal you know why? Because Arsenal plays tiki taka football and they cant handle the movement,the pace, the dribbling and the passing etc. I for one think this would be a great tactic and we would be a force. And it would make Hazard an even better/more complete player.

That would be a great argument if what you said was actually true. However, Arsenal always struggle against the likes of Stoke who park the bus, in fact since the promotion of Stoke to the PL, Arsenal have only won once at the Britania, lost 3 and drew 1. That is a terrible record for a top 4 team against relegation battlers.

The reason for that is, because as you said Arsenal only have pace and quick passes, that will get you no where with 7 defenders in the box. All Stoke and Westham do is lump the ball forward to the striker, so they rarely leave space for you to exploit with pace. You can have all the pace in the world in your team but when you hit a wall of defenders you will stop.

Bottom line is, the bus beats the tiki taka, we proved that in the CL last season against Barcelona.

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That would be a great argument if what you said was actually true. However, Arsenal always struggle against the likes of Stoke who park the bus, in fact since the promotion of Stoke to the PL, Arsenal have only won once at the Britania, lost 3 and drew 1. That is a terrible record for a top 4 team against relegation battlers.

The reason for that is, because as you said Arsenal only have pace and quick passes, that will get you no where with 7 defenders in the box. All Stoke and Westham do is lump the ball forward to the striker, so they rarely leave space for you to exploit with pace. You can have all the pace in the world in your team but when you hit a wall of defenders you will stop.

Bottom line is, the bus beats the tiki taka, we proved that in the CL last season against Barcelona.

Yeah i guess your right i really did not know Arsenal's record against Stoke was that poor. But i really still think this would work you already see that our opposition cant handle Hazard.

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Well people at Barcelona would also say that its madness to play the false #9 tactic before it was even tried. Hey if Fabregas who is a slow CM can be a false #9 for Spain then i am absolutely sure that Hazard would be a much better false #9 because he has got way more attacking abilities than Fabregas. And i really do believe that this tactic would work because it has so much pace in it and the movement of every midfielder is great + Hazard proved that he can score goals in Lille.

Stoke and Westham etc would actually struggle, because they would not handle the pace. You always see Stoke and other physically strong teams in the EPL struggle with Arsenal you know why? Because Arsenal plays tiki taka football and they cant handle the movement,the pace, the dribbling and the passing etc. I for one think this would be a great tactic and we would be a force. And it would make Hazard an even better/more complete player.

Last season for example most of his goals didn't come from open play. From what i have seen Hazard finishing is definitely not one of his strengths. Csec is a great finisher which is why he was tried as a false 9.

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Its obvious that the closest thing we have to a false 9 is PIAZON young as he might be he has been tried there by RDM in pre season against PSG(which he scored), also seattle and major league all stars. I think he is our silent 3rd striker after sturridge that RDM never mentions. He might be young but he has talent and a good understanding of the game(watch his one two pass with ramires before he scores PSG). Imho I think he is worth the try in capital one cup since sturridge might not be rushed. If you think he is too young Just look at sterlin aged 17 at liverpool

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Its obvious that the closest thing we have to a false 9 is PIAZON young as he might be he has been tried there by RDM in pre season against PSG(which he scored), also seattle and major league all stars. I think he is our silent 3rd striker after sturridge that RDM never mentions. He might be young but he has talent and a good understanding of the game(watch his one two pass with ramires before he scores PSG). Imho I think he is worth the try in capital one cup since sturridge might not be rushed. If you think he is too young Just look at sterlin aged 17 at liverpool

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Last season for example most of his goals didn't come from open play. From what i have seen Hazard finishing is definitely not one of his strengths. Csec is a great finisher which is why he was tried as a false 9.

Cesc turned out to be a good finisher when he was tried there. We dont know if Hazard can finish well or not until we try him there.

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Cesc turned out to be a good finisher when he was tried there. We dont know if Hazard can finish well or not until we try him there.

Not really i always rated Cesc finishing ability and eye for goals, only Lampard surpass him from midfield. btw Cesc was decent, but i wouldn't want him playing as false 9 on a permanent basis.

Anyway for me Hazard skill set is closer to Iniesta then Messi if i had to make a comparison.

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the false number 9 puts preasures of the midfield also, it creates total football in midfield and makes midfield do one two passes etc etc. knowing the goal will come from them.

surely we won't ever see this with chelsea, unless pep comes here but i would try it.

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