Muzchap 8,966 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 All we need is a rotation striker. Someone that will keep Torres fresh as well as score a few goals.Buying Falcao would be a dream come true...but do we really want to shatter Torres' confidence? Cause if Falcao joins, he'll be starting CF from day one which will leave Torres' future in doubt.I wouldn't mind Chelsea taking a chance on Ba if he really has a release clause of only 7 million. Sure, he's got injury issues but as a proven striker who can help Torres stay fresh, 7 million is a bargain.That ship sailed in August, as far as I'm aware the 7 million release clause has expired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I think we are 2 signings away from having one of the best squads in the world a striker and a center back.For the striker role i think llorente would suit us that is ofcourse if torres is scoring goals,so we have 2 very good strikers in torres and llorente who are also different from each other with studge and lukaku(when he returns from his loan) also available.Also de bruyne will be like a new signing next season and he can play on the wings as well as in midfield.If torres does not perform then i think we should go all out for falcao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Dont be ridiculous, you are confusing your self in an attempt to prove me wrong, and fail.Benzema wants to have a playmaking role, a very focused one, with the 3 chelsea play makers there, that won't happen, so CHELSEA IS NOT THE IDEAL PLACE FOR WHAT BENZEMA WANTS.If benzema leaves madrid it is because he is not THE starter yet, if higuain gets ostracized then benz might stay and score some 40 goals and 20 assists if we are to judge from previous campaigns.He wants a sort of freedom that here in chelsea he wont get, not good enough for benz or chelsea.There wouldnt be a majority vote for a new striker if it wasnt fact that torres is not enough, you can argue that until you fall asleep if you want, but a goal scorer who you can feed and play vertical football with is the answer, lets see if torres delivers, and if chelsea decide to leave him be.Please dont try to go around things, what i said is that benzema wont come here because it is not ideal, and that chelsea are arguably looking for a striker, and the type of falcao or higuain would be the best. Considering that there arent many players like benzema in a world class status if any, then a 9 is what you will get as the reference up front, thats it. I mean, can't you see the unsettlement and news around getting a new striker since people arent convinced with torres overall?You wont get benzema, and if you get a new striker it will most likely be a 9 thats it.Having benzema at chelsea would be a waste specially for him.And please dont get so defensive, "my boy" is a way to make conversation, im not trying to degrade you as a human being..My main thesis has been said, and i doubt it can really be fought against.Look at benz in france vs japan yesterday.. he played behind giroud ffs. He is more of a playmaker/goal scorer than anything else. Hasnt scored a goal since september 2011 with france. not his fault entirely though.If torres comes though and no new striker comes in then good for you, but if you dont want to miss out on guys who have proved them selves like falcao and yes even higuain ( youd have to be a blind delusional to think he isnt proven, compared to torres at the very least) then you will go after them.If torres links up well and starts scoring goals then great, that may not be enough for roman though, what stops him from going after the most inform striker in the world?I'm not confusing myself at all. I've given you my opinion on why I think Benzema would fit better for Chelsea as he likes to create too (according to you) which is something Torres does this season, and even last season, where he got around 15 assists, which obviously tells you that our striker, whoever that is, is also responsible for creating. Nowhere have I said that Torres is proven either, all I said is that there are people in this thread who equally think we don't need a new striker, unless Torres goes of course. I never said CFC should go for Benzema, Higuain or Falcao. All I said was that Benzema would be a better fit in my opinion. If you think that's not right then fair enough, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. It's called an opinion. People opine on forums, it's the main point of it. I've given you reasons why I think Benzema would be a better fit than Higuain, and I'm not really going to go over them again because they're there to read. So we'll just leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 All we need is a rotation striker. Someone that will keep Torres fresh as well as score a few goals.Buying Falcao would be a dream come true...but do we really want to shatter Torres' confidence? Cause if Falcao joins, he'll be starting CF from day one which will leave Torres' future in doubt.I wouldn't mind Chelsea taking a chance on Ba if he really has a release clause of only 7 million. Sure, he's got injury issues but as a proven striker who can help Torres stay fresh, 7 million is a bargain.I don't think Ba would come from starting for a decent team like Newcastle to being a rotational striker at CFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 He knew it but he is not happy, the problem with barcelona is that they have not brought the right players in their attempts to bring in players to maximize messi.Villa only joined barca beacause he wanted titles, now that he has problems with messi, with tito, he doesnt play, and when he does play he doesnt play where he should ideally, rumor has it hes even had talks with juventus, and this comes from a very close guy to villa's group of close confidents.They sold eto'o, they wasted almost 200 million on failures of ibrahimovic, affelay, sanchez, and arguably villa ( hed ba a failure if it wasnt for the 10/11 campagin) shame on them. Barca has been garbage at transfers.Shame on them?, they are the best team in the world, and mainly due to there very impresive youth, they are a blessing to football in my opinion. Despite the cheating in games, what cannot be proven to be fair, but looks very likely. They are still one hell of a team and I'm glad I witnessed them in there prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinedine Iniesco 172 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Shame on them?, they are the best team in the world, and mainly due to there very impresive youth, they are a blessing to football in my opinion. Despite the cheating in games, what cannot be proven to be fair, but looks very likely. They are still one hell of a team and I'm glad I witnessed them in there prime.Shame on them for wasting so much money on failures money they could have used on players who were actually great for their system.So shame on them. Im not saying that they are a bad club.. You didnt understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 The way the team is set up, this is what attributes our striker should possess:Good link-up play with the AMs, especially with Hazard (greatest link-up player in the world imo).Stays in and around the box.Good one-touch, two-touch finisher with both feet and head.Decent hold-up play.Don't think we need a Drogba anymore, we can make do with a player that isn't the most complete player, but rather a proper 9.Who?Falcao obv, but he might be too expensive. He's the best finisher in the world, but his link-up play is very mediocre and if Chelsea has to be a force, their 3 AM will have to be goal-scorers too and that requires good link-up play with the striker.Damiao, I like him a lot, great finisher but he might have a hard time adjusting in the PL.Dzeko, incredibly underrated imo, I think he's a class player and if it was up to me he'd be my number 1 choice.Torres, Torres is like the opposite of Falcao right now, his overall game has improved so much but dude is no more a lethal finisher, not even great anymore. If he somehow starts finishing even half as good as the Liverpool Torres then I don't think anyone in the world would be a better fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Can't believe some people speak so highly of Benzema .. Look at the sitters he missed, he is also the most non big game player I have ever seen.I would rather have a striker who can finish because this is his main job.Finishing and scoring goals is atleast 50% of the job a striker must do and FALCAO does it with ease.And if we really are going to spend light sum on "reserve" striker in the diapason of 10-20 mil., then in my opinion Demba Ba is the best option.Also what's with the "Torres is doing great job for the team", how can a player do a good job for his team when 70+% of the time when he gets the ball he loses it, explain to me please.In my opinion Falcao's work rate is as good as Torres if not better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinedine Iniesco 172 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Can't believe some people speak so highly of Benzema .. Look at the sitters he missed, he is also the most non big game player I have ever seen.I would rather have a striker who can finish because this is his main job.Finishing and scoring goals is atleast 50% of the job a striker must do and FALCAO does it with ease.And if we really are going to spend light sum on "reserve" striker in the diapason of 10-20 mil., then in my opinion Demba Ba is the best option.Also what's with the "Torres is doing great job for the team", how can a player do a good job for his team when 70+% of the time when he gets the ball he loses it, explain to me please.In my opinion Falcao's work rate is as good as Torres if not better.You dont watch real madrid, for you to call him a " non big player" seems to me a bit uneducated.The guy scored 32 goals and 15 assists last year, and could have gotten to 40-20 minimum if higuain didnt take minutes from him. All this considering that ronaldo takes most of the shine in the attack. Benzema is a great forward, but going to chelsea is a nono for him. Benzema was actually a great player against barcelona last year, scoring something like 3 goals and 3 assists against them, and s always among the top goals+ assists packaged in the champions league.He could be hitting better form if he was the undisuputed striker.Lol so if you are going to try to discredit benzema, then do so in a logical way, like saying he might not be best for chelsea system due to many reasons, but when talking about him we are talking about a player who performed at a very high level against our main rivals all season long last year, and is capable of some of the best forward link up play there is, and makes his self worth with 30+ goals and 12 or so assists throughout the season, albeit sharing minutes with higuain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 All we need is a rotation striker. Someone that will keep Torres fresh as well as score a few goals.Buying Falcao would be a dream come true...but do we really want to shatter Torres' confidence? Cause if Falcao joins, he'll be starting CF from day one which will leave Torres' future in doubt.I wouldn't mind Chelsea taking a chance on Ba if he really has a release clause of only 7 million. Sure, he's got injury issues but as a proven striker who can help Torres stay fresh, 7 million is a bargain.If Torres continues performing much more consistently for the rest of the season, he should reach 20-25 goals in all competitions which I said at the beginning of the season should be his aim and would be a very good season. That being the case I agree a rotational striker is required, even more important when you see Sturridge having been injured recently.However why buy a rotational striker? We have an option to bring Lukaku back in January and should do just this. Ironically Lukaku probably would have had at least as much game time for us this season as he has so far had at West Brom, given Sturridge's injury. He has shown in glimpses that he can perform in the Premier League and another 3 months at West Brom should set him up well to come back here and help the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 If Torres continues performing much more consistently for the rest of the season, he should reach 20-25 goals in all competitions which I said at the beginning of the season should be his aim and would be a very good season. That being the case I agree a rotational striker is required, even more important when you see Sturridge having been injured recently.However why buy a rotational striker? We have an option to bring Lukaku back in January and should do just this. Ironically Lukaku probably would have had at least as much game time for us this season as he has so far had at West Brom, given Sturridge's injury. He has shown in glimpses that he can perform in the Premier League and another 3 months at West Brom should set him up well to come back here and help the squad.Exactly this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 If Torres continues performing much more consistently for the rest of the season, he should reach 20-25 goals in all competitions which I said at the beginning of the season should be his aim and would be a very good season. That being the case I agree a rotational striker is required, even more important when you see Sturridge having been injured recently.However why buy a rotational striker? We have an option to bring Lukaku back in January and should do just this. Ironically Lukaku probably would have had at least as much game time for us this season as he has so far had at West Brom, given Sturridge's injury. He has shown in glimpses that he can perform in the Premier League and another 3 months at West Brom should set him up well to come back here and help the squad.All the top teams have at least 3-4 recognised strikers, if Torres and Studge are injured we have nobody...Lukaku isn't ready yet - definitely not ready - he needs at least a year.Also Studge has not been proven in attack for CFC, yes he scored goals from the wing, but it's different playing up front on your own...We IMHO do need another World Class striker to ensure we can beat teams at 'football' and not park the bus style... Just my opinion, but Falcao would suit us perfectly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 PERFECT BUYSeydou Dumbia: Age=24, Appearances= 196, Goals=120, Market Value=20m pounds(only!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 All the top teams have at least 3-4 recognised strikers, if Torres and Studge are injured we have nobody...Because they play two of them at the same time. They can afford to do that. Also Studge has not been proven in attack for CFC, yes he scored goals from the wing, but it's different playing up front on your own...At least he's shown he's good enough in the first team. RDM and co have faith that he's a good alternative to Torres that's why we obviously didn't buy a striker. We IMHO do need another World Class striker to ensure we can beat teams at 'football' and not park the bus style... Just my opinion, but Falcao would suit us perfectly...Sorry this logic confuses me... How is getting Falcao suddenly going to change what happens behind him? We've been beating teams at "football" this season. The trio of Oscar, Mata and Hazard still have to gel fully, and until then there's no point in signing a striker especially if Torres is already having a decent season. If Torres messes up this season them by all means, sell him and get Falcao. There's no point right now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 If Torres continues performing much more consistently for the rest of the season, he should reach 20-25 goals in all competitions which I said at the beginning of the season should be his aim and would be a very good season. That being the case I agree a rotational striker is required, even more important when you see Sturridge having been injured recently.However why buy a rotational striker? We have an option to bring Lukaku back in January and should do just this. Ironically Lukaku probably would have had at least as much game time for us this season as he has so far had at West Brom, given Sturridge's injury. He has shown in glimpses that he can perform in the Premier League and another 3 months at West Brom should set him up well to come back here and help the squad.I think it'd be better for Lukaku's development if we let him stay at West Bromwich for the rest of the season. He seems to fit their tactics & he's getting a chance to express himself at EPL level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Because they play two if them at the same time. They can afford to do that.At least he's shown he's good enough in the first team. RDM and co have faith that he's a good alternative to Torres that's why we obviously didn't buy a striker.Sorry this logic confuses me... How is getting Falcao suddenly going to change what happens behind him?We've been beating teams at "football" this season. The trio of Oscar, Mata and Hazard still have to gel fully, and until then there's no point in signing a striker especially if Torres is already having a decent season.If Torres messes up this season them by all means, sell him and get Falcao. There's no point right now though.This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinedine Iniesco 172 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Because they play two if them at the same time. They can afford to do that.At least he's shown he's good enough in the first team. RDM and co have faith that he's a good alternative to Torres that's why we obviously didn't buy a striker.Sorry this logic confuses me... How is getting Falcao suddenly going to change what happens behind him?We've been beating teams at "football" this season. The trio of Oscar, Mata and Hazard still have to gel fully, and until then there's no point in signing a striker especially if Torres is already having a decent season.If Torres messes up this season them by all means, sell him and get Falcao. There's no point right now though.The january swoop was going to be a bit weird imo for various reasons anyways. If anything, that rule has been there from the beginning, meaning not to go for falcao until the season is over, for various reasons, including rating the performance of torres.Falcao is cup tied as well, no use in the cl. Check it out by googling it. If player a's club reaches past the group stage of europa league, he cant play in the cl or europa with another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 i believe in Studge,, but if we want a new striker sell Torres and bring in Lewandowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasRiver 31 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Falcao or Higuain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 If a player is to be signed in January I'm really, really, really, really hoping it's David Villa. I don't care that he is 30, is still one of the best fowards in the world. Sure it would be a short term fix as he probably only has two really good years left (or four if he is lucky, he could turn out like Zola...) but he fits Chelsea style like a glove and he still has a lot to give to club and country.I would probably lose my shit if he were to sign for another BPL club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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