Oscar

[lionsden 4,689]

If he goes for big money like 35m plus then it will show one of two things that we indeed have the best negotiators in the business or that the club willing to pay exorbitant fee for him have such a mediocre team of scouts and analysts and haven't been watching his performances thoroughly. The talk of selling him for huge sums of money certainly isn't based on talent and performance. there's no justification for believing he will or should command a very high fee in the market.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Right now I'd plonk Coutinho right in there ahead of Oscar without even thinking about it. Coutinho is fucking brilliant

WOW...

[pattieboyd 56]

From a mate inside the club, I can also say that Oscar played the Villa game with an injury concern over his right quad muscle. Can't comment on cause/severity etc., but there was a concern of some degree there. Again, not excusing his performance though.

Oh? I was wondering what the hell was this thing on his leg:

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I thought we were to some extent disciples of Jose Mourinho? Football is played at both ends of the pitch....

Against Newcastle Oscar played 78mins had a goal and an assist. He also had 3 tackles, 1 interception and 4 clearances.

Against Swansea he played 90mins had 2 goals no tackles or interceptions(probably didn't need any with the way Swansea played that day)

He didn't play against Liverpool away...

He then goes on a run of games where he plays 90mins against Bradford, 120mins vs Liverpool(5 tackles, 93 touches), 91mins against City(4 tackles despite being woeful), so in the span of 8 days Oscar has played 300mins of football and has ran the entire way not taking plays off or complaining about fatigue. I haven't been able to look up the distance he's covered but if someone wants to look that up it would be well appreciated because I KNOW he covered tonnes of ground.

This is very unusual for a no.10, you will not find another player replicate this fellas workrate in that position and still contribute 6 goals and 7 assists, IT IS PHYSICALLY DEMANDING!

I'm not saying he's been fantastic, he has room for improvement but the amount of flack this guy gets its unreal! This is a guy who makes it possible for others on the pitch to play their football because he works so tirelessly. He also is very difficult to play against because he never lets up. This is what Jose wants from his no.10, he's not looking for someone who makes incredible passes that split open teams and dribbles past 6 players to set up the striker for a goal, no, Oscar is our facilitator! He is the cog in the engine. When you ask players to chase people up and down the field, win tackles and be a nuisance AND at the same time create scoring chances and score goals while playing 300 mins in 8 days he's going to start to break down... Its just a fact of life.

If you guys actually think Isco, Eriksen or LOL Coutinho can actually perform the role Oscar has in this team you are joking yourselves... When those guys play the 10 their assignment is very different to that of Oscar's.

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

I thought we were to some extent disciples of Jose Mourinho? Football is played at both ends of the pitch....

Against Newcastle Oscar played 78mins had a goal and an assist. He also had 3 tackles, 1 interception and 4 clearances.

Against Swansea he played 90mins had 2 goals no tackles or interceptions(probably didn't need any with the way Swansea played that day)

He didn't play against Liverpool away...

He then goes on a run of games where he plays 90mins against Bradford, 120mins vs Liverpool(5 tackles, 93 touches), 91mins against City(4 tackles despite being woeful), so in the span of 8 days Oscar has played 300mins of football and has ran the entire way not taking plays off or complaining about fatigue. I haven't been able to look up the distance he's covered but if someone wants to look that up it would be well appreciated because I KNOW he covered tonnes of ground.

This is very unusual for a no.10, you will not find another player replicate this fellas workrate in that position and still contribute 6 goals and 7 assists, IT IS PHYSICALLY DEMANDING!

I'm not saying he's been fantastic, he has room for improvement but the amount of flack this guy gets its unreal! This is a guy who makes it possible for others on the pitch to play their football because he works so tirelessly. He also is very difficult to play against because he never lets up. This is what Jose wants from his no.10, he's not looking for someone who makes incredible passes that split open teams and dribbles past 6 players to set up the striker for a goal, no, Oscar is our facilitator! He is the cog in the engine. When you ask players to chase people up and down the field, win tackles and be a nuisance AND at the same time create scoring chances and score goals while playing 300 mins in 8 days he's going to start to break down... Its just a fact of life.

If you guys actually think Isco, Eriksen or LOL Coutinho can actually perform the role Oscar has in this team you are joking yourselves... When those guys play the 10 they're assignment is very different to that of Oscar's.

Seriously, Oscar works a lot and he is a good player. But we don't need good players in our starting team, we need great players. There is certainly room for improvement at that position.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Seriously, Oscar works a lot and he is a good player. But we don't need good players in our starting team, we need great players. There is certainly room for improvement at that position.

Not saying he's been fantastic, but if you can find me another no.10 who can win tackles, interceptions, mark a deep lying playmaker out of the game, score and assist and be a threat to score from set pieces please tell me who he is!

[didierforever 7,349]

If he goes for big money like 35m plus then it will show one of two things that we indeed have the best negotiators in the business or that the club willing to pay exorbitant fee for him have such a mediocre team of scouts and analysts and haven't been watching his performances thoroughly. The talk of selling him for huge sums of money certainly isn't based on talent and performance. there's no justification for believing he will or should command a very high fee in the market.

Luiz went for 37mil £ and despite being on the bench or being played in mid for half the season last season, still made the fifa team of thw year. U still think that any of that had to do with his skill or talent? Its all about marketability

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Oh? I was wondering what the hell was this thing on his leg:

KT (Kinesiology) tape.

http://www.kttape.com/what-is-kt-tape/

[lionsden 4,689]

Luiz went for 37mil £ and despite being on the bench or being played in mid for half the season last season, still made the fifa team of thw year. U still think that any of that had to do with his skill or talent? Its all about marketability

The state of the modern game makes me sick

[Barbara 15,149]

Oh? I was wondering what the hell was this thing on his leg:

I never even realized the tape on pictures or live.

He can't cope with so many minutes in a row, just can't. He has low stamina and a fatigued Oscar is as useful as cold air conditioning in Siberia.

[Oscar 441]

Seriously, Oscar works a lot and he is a good player. But we don't need good players in our starting team, we need great players. There is certainly room for improvement at that position.

is that why belgium is such a good team or why Hazard is such a great player on Belgium national team.

Not saying he's been fantastic, but if you can find me another no.10 who can win tackles, interceptions, mark a deep lying playmaker out of the game, score and assist and be a threat to score from set pieces please tell me who he is!

Modric and that is it. Not cesc, not hazard, but only Modric.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

WOW...

Based on this season I would have to agree with him. Whole career comparison though and it is laughable.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

is that why belgium is such a good team or why Hazard is such a great player on Belgium national team.

Modric and that is it. Not cesc, not hazard, but only Modric.

A tactically incompetent manager is Belgium's problem.

"Modric and that is it"

You can't seriously think that. Please tell me you're joking.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Based on this season I would have to agree with him. Whole career comparison though and it is laughable.

Coutinho was not in the starting XI a month ago. He also started against us in the league and got subbed right away. So, don't say season, but recent games or perhaps 2015.

One of the main complaints of people around here is that oscar is inconsistent, but coutinho is far more inconsistent and only recently was able to break into the starting XI of freaking Liverpool And still can't defend to save his life.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Being handed a new deal doesn't mean the manager and club are right. Even managers are prone to having blind faith on players.

Also, if we're just gonna resort to the 'Mourinho knows more than the us all' like you did there, we might as well just quit the forum and be a passive fan, agreeing with everything he does.

Oh no!!!

I'm not merely saying that Jose Mourinho knows best as they be obvious... What I am saying is that the club has a number of professionals who know better than any of us; not only because they they are paid professionals, but especially because they have access to information.

Sorry aboy dp iPad...