MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Im one of his biggest critic but He actually had a really good game especially in the first half. This was a much better performance than what he's been producing in the last few weeksI think his 1st half performance was v.overrated, tbh. Solid, yes, but nothing more. 2nd half, he was dire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 If even Lionsden is defending Oscar today that means you have an obvious agenda against Oscar. He was great in the first half, understandably disappeared after the interval once the game descended into a hoofing contest. RoyalBlues, CFC888 and LAB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I think his 1st half performance was v.overrated, tbh. Solid, yes, but nothing more. 2nd half, he was dire. What was he supposed to do when the defenders were hoofing the ball and Costa couldn't win one aerial duel to save his life?Learn the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 PSG, comeback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 If even Lionsden is defending Oscar today that means you have an obvious agenda against Oscar. He was great in the first half, understandably disappeared after the interval once the game descended into a hoofing contest.I'd say that in fact he disappeared well before half time but even so I was satisfied with Oscar today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So lets just ignore the fact Oscar and Ramires started against Liverpool away. And lets just keep pretending that when Jose wants to play 4-3-3 that the reason Oscar often gets left out is clearly not because there is no room for a number 10 in a 4-3-3 formation.Some Chelsea fans lack of knowledge is bizarreSome Chelsea fans need to learn how to read properly. I said "He started the majority of those games because Ramires wasn't 100 % fit." The majority. I didn't say he started all of them because of Ramires not being fit.We don't play a 4-3-3 we almost always play a 4-2-3-1. Fabregas goes into the number 10 role. Ramires and Matic are the 2 players protecting the back four.Agree with Lionden, he was good in the first half today. Second half difficult with the game being so stretched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Nope. I tried, but I won't ever understand the discussions about Oscar. I just don't see any of it.In my world, he had a pretty good game like most of our players today. He linked up very well with Eden and Cesc, and his movement was excellent. In defense he was also probably the player that pressed the most in our team (mainly because Diego looked tired/not arsed to press half of the time). Made a few wrong decisions on the ball, but that's very normal for all of our attacking players. LAB and CFC888 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 What was he supposed to do when the defenders were hoofing the ball and Costa couldn't win one aerial duel to save his life?Learn the game.You're the one who needs to learn the game. Oscar was terrible in this game. Did absolutely nothing to contribute to his team's overall performance and was at best a passenger and at worst anonymous. I'm not going to apologize for anybody or use any double standard. He was simply very, very poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 What did Oscar do in the 1st half that made him "good" and "sensational" like I was reading in the match thread? Bang average at best. If Willian played like that today, guy would have gotten slaughtered. Mustafa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNDS 502 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He played well when in possession of the ball during the first-half, but faded out of the game after half-time. His play when the team is out of possession is what concerns me the most at the moment, given that it's usually one of his stronger points; he's often slow into challenges and his positioning is sometimes off as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Some Chelsea fans need to learn how to read properly. I said "He started the majority of those games because Ramires wasn't 100 % fit." The majority. I didn't say he started all of them because of Ramires not being fit.We don't play a 4-3-3 we almost always play a 4-2-3-1. Fabregas goes into the number 10 role. Ramires and Matic are the 2 players protecting the back four.Agree with Lionden, he was good in the first half today. Second half not really that much football being played.no we dont, we go into a 4-3-3 when defending and then Cesc moves further forward when we have the ball.and after the way Ramires played today, he will probably take Willian's place in the team.We will most likely start like this against PSGFabregas - MaticRamires - Oscar - HazardCosta but i am sure the same people on here will come up with more excuses as to why Oscar keeps starting games. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He played the same way he does always... can't create anything.. can't influence the game in any way, don't know how to play in counter attack, don't risk anything...There is no place for Oscar in the starting 11 of this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He is less visible because last year he was the one connecting midfield to attack, now thats Cescs role. His role is something like track back, make simple passes etc nowdays...and if he is invisible it doesnt mean he is not playing well. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNDS 502 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 no we dont, we go into a 4-3-3 when defending and then Cesc moves further forward when we have the ball.and after the way Ramires played today, he will probably take Willian's place in the team.We will most likely start like this against PSGFabregas - MaticRamires - Oscar - HazardCosta but i am sure the same people on here will come up with more excuses as to why Oscar keeps starting games.Ramires was excellent on the right today, but I can't see him being able to contribute much in attack (at all) from that same position against a side like PSG. As for Oscar, I thought he played quite well today, but not well enough to convince Mourinho to play him from the start against PSG. I would anticipate that we'll play the same front six that started the first-leg: Matic; Ramires, Fabregas; Willian, Hazard; Costa, lined-up in a 4-3-3 formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He is less visible because last year he was the one connecting midfield to attack, now thats Cescs role. His role is something like track back, make simple passes etc nowdays...and if he is invisible it doesnt mean he is not playing well.Hazard was the one connecting everything last season. He was poor for the majority of last season and there were these same apologies for his mediocre performances. Everything was blamed for his poor performances but the player himself.Sorry but what does that even mean? His role first and foremost is to show on a consistent basis he has enough quality to be a starting XI player for this club. If he was doing what Mourinho wanted, why did he get subbed out? Why does he get subbed out in almost every game and why is he not trusted to start the big games? Especially since he's supposed to bring this amazing defensive contribution to the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (replace he by 'thread') RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Is this thread going to loop forever? Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 The same old story, one side think he is okay, the other think he is very shit. Not sure all are watching the same match. CFC888 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Is this thread going to loop forever? Even after he's retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Coutinho has always being far more talented than Oscar that it's not even debatable. Coutinho is a superior dribbler, passer, better vision,superior first touch, more intelligent. As a matter of fact, the only aspect of the game where Coutinho and Oscar should ever be mentioned in the same sentence is defensive contribution and finishing because the former is well ahead in every other department by a huge margin. If coutinho keeps his consistency up, the comparison will look even more foolish than it currently is. It's like comparing Pjanic to Guarin even though the colombian actually has better goals and assist stats overall this season but you only need to watch them play to know who's better and more consistent.Why the same breath? Oscar is miles ahead in the defensive/off the ball department. Coutinho is worse than Mata in that regard. CFC888 and RoyalBlues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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