Oscar

[didierforever 7,349]

Wow didierforever will never admit that he's wrong.

Wrong?? How am I wrong?

Go to that post and check the time. That post was madr in the HT break.

Seriously check the time

[The Skipper 20,609]

Wrong?? How am I wrong?

Go to that post and check the time. That post was madr in the HT break.

Seriously check the time

Backtracking now are we? Why didn't you just say that at the start instead of trying to justify your point?

[Dion 2,476]

Wrong?? How am I wrong?

Go to that post and check the time. That post was madr in the HT break.

Seriously check the time

So you didn't even bother to wait for the rest of game before evaluating his performance in the match? That's so kind of you. Not only that but you decided to single him out in a half where everyone played below their standards.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Why he is Invisible 90% of the game?

[stroey 2,525]

So you didn't even bother to wait for the rest of game before evaluating his performance in the match? That's so kind of you. Not only that but you decided to single him out in a half where everyone played below their standards.

Why is he wrong for having an opinion during the HT? All of us were discussing about the match during the the match and HT. Many players were poor in the 1st half and one of them was Oscar, and Oscar has been bad for a long time. No one of us wants our players to be bad, I agree with didierforever that we have other players who deserves to start over Oscar, especially Willian. He can't hide behind his age for too long anymore, he's turning 23 in 2 weeks. He should stand up and be consistent, otherwise he will lose his spot again like last season.

[didierforever 7,349]

So you didn't even bother to wait for the rest of game before evaluating his performance in the match? That's so kind of you. Not only that but you decided to single him out in a half where everyone played below their standards.

I dint need 45 minutes to form an opinion. Evrn ben arfa can have one good half in 8 months.

[Dion 2,476]

Why is he wrong for having an opinion during the HT? All of us were discussing about the match during the the match and HT. Many players were poor in the 1st half and one of them was Oscar, and Oscar has been bad for a long time. No one of us wants our players to be bad, I agree with didierforever that we have other players who deserves to start over Oscar, especially Willian. He can't hide behind his age for too long anymore, he's turning 23 in 2 weeks. He should stand up and be consistent, otherwise he will lose his spot again like last season.

It's not wrong, but the fact that he couldn't even wait for the game to end before leaving the match thread and come here to bad mouth Oscar should tell you enough how much he wants to bash him. And his detractors are so nonsensical that they decide to do their backlash on him not after Burnley, when he was mediocre on the ball and rarely attempted anything at all, but after Leicester, a game when he tried to make things happen the whole game, even if he was ineffective in the first half.

That's what annoys me, all this bashing after yesterday's game sounds completely random and just criticizing him for the sake of pillory. When he actually shows a decent performance and actually participates in creating a goal is when you guys decide it was the last nail in the coffin, lmao.

[didierforever 7,349]

Backtracking now are we? Why didn't you just say that at the start instead of trying to justify your point?

You asked me why I was fixating on the 8 months. Should I have answered why I was doing so instaed of saying, see this was my original point???!!!!

When our lady barbara said that I was simply taking it up cos I wanted to save me face (), then I went to my original post to show that THIS was indeed my original point.

Oh dear thia is now getting beyond ridiculous. Almost as bad as the torres thread in the start of 2011-12 season when anyone who had the bloody balls of saying that torres was shit and useless, was ganged up on by his fanboys. Lets see how long this oscar charades go.

[zolayes 14,489]

Wow didierforever will never admit that he's wrong.

Why should he ,, HE IS NEVER WRONG .. Its just the rest of us who are STOOPID

[didierforever 7,349]

Why he is Invisible 90% of the game?

So what??? He can play 20 good minutes in 8 months. Cant u just see the positives.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Comparing Oscar to Torres. We have found our RAWK thread.

[Dion 2,476]

Oh dear thia is now getting beyond ridiculous. Almost as bad as the torres thread in the start of 2011-12 season when anyone who had the bloody balls of saying that torres was shit and useless, was ganged up on by his fanboys. Lets see how long this oscar charades go.

What you fail to realize is that Torres was the most expensive signing of the EPL, under massive wages and a player who should be supposedly at his prime or close to it, he should be carrying this team from the moment he joined but instead he's our worst player and someone we can't seem to get rid of. Oscar came for less than half Fernando's price, and as with any other young player, a great part of his price tag comes down to potential, not only his current level. And even then he has made the difference and won matches for us at times. They are two completely different situations and how can you not see it is beyond me or any rational human being.

[Barbara 15,149]

You asked me why I was fixating on the 8 months. Should I have answered why I was doing so instaed of saying, see this was my original point???!!!!

When our lady barbara said that I was simply taking it up cos I wanted to save me face ( ), then I went to my original post to show that THIS was indeed my original point.

Oh dear thia is now getting beyond ridiculous. Almost as bad as the torres thread in the start of 2011-12 season when anyone who had the bloody balls of saying that torres was shit and useless, was ganged up on by his fanboys. Lets see how long this oscar charades go.

you just said last page that his performance yesterday was the nail in the coffin when he was the player that was mostly involved in the best chances we created in the second as I broke down. You started attacking people for acknowledging he was good, that was your second post in the thread if you want to be literal about it. You worded in a way as if there was anyone trying to say that 20 minutes erased the second part of the season - which nobody did. Just because people didn't single him out in a stretch of time seemingly nobody played well - according to José our whole midfield was weak - and praised him for playing well in the second - which he clearly did given how he took part of the first goal and in two other clear chances - as if US, CHELSEA FANS were WRONG for praising OUR player for turning a bad presentation around and being instrumental coming back from half time. My main instance on this thread yesterday was how people chose to focus on 45 minutes of bad football - when it had been collective bad football - and not even recognize how he was one of the players that helped us to turn things around in the second. For me he's tied with Ivanovic in the second half performance. Both were our brightest players. that was the initial discussion here.

Then you gave the argument that the only reason he started against Burnley was because Ramires was suspended (and I do wonder whose fault was that in the first place...), but you didn't offer anything as to why Ramires didn't start the second then, only saying Mourinho wanted to keep the winning side. So in one hand Oscar is part of the starting eleven because he's part of what's considered the winning side, but on the other hand he was so awful against Burnley and then again against Leicester saved 20 minutes that he should be dropped promptly for Ramires... There's no logic that can conceive that he's kept because he was part of a winning side, but at the same time is horrible, unless you're calling Mourinho stupid or biased.

that was my point, Mourinho gave Oscar a second chance in the first match of the season after terrible months, then he probably thought Oscar did well and gave him yet another start. If he doesn't start against Everton it might have nothing to do with Mourinho being happy or unhappy with his performances (I doubt he's unhappy though) and more with the tactical plan for that match. There isn't a reason for Mourinho to be unhappy about him exclusively about the first half and Mourinho himself said the team was bad, Cesc said the team was bad, Cahill said the team was bad. Everyone agrees the team was bad in the first ahlf, so why should Mourinho or anyone else single out Oscar? Then in the second half Oscar was one of our best players, why would Mourinho be unhappy and see that performance as the nail in the coffin? Sorry if from my angle it makes no sense at all.

[Chelsea? 892]

he's been crap for the past 8 months. he had a good 20min in the 2nd half and we hope to see more of that. But it's not like all the hope we have in Oscar was from that 20min; He was really good the first half of last year too.

[zolayes 14,489]

sometimes I think the deluded scousers and gooners are preferable to the miserable pessimists on here.

it is difficult to refrain from using the term Glory Hunters,