Oscar

[Barbara 15,149]

yea you pretty much said what I was saying. I never mentioned Oscar's dribbling as a problem. When was the last brilliant pass he made? Like I said, he is better for the system due to his work rate and directness, but his vision and passing is average.

Idk why the Oscar fanboys have to defend every ability of Oscar's.

he left Schurrle in front of the goal and Andre hit the post just last match. He had another great pass then I don't remember to who - probably Eto'o.

Nobody is defending Oscar's every ability. You just spoke some BS when you called him useless offensively bar his goals. Oscar is no genius offensively, but he offers more than being our second top scorer and tackles in the season. And even those tackles should be counted as offensive when they're made in the attacking third and because of him we have a chance to try a shot. He creates space, he gives good passes, he links up with our other attacking players. Just because he isn't as brilliant as Mata creating chances it doesn't mean he's useless as you said he is. I don't feel like we are the ones acting like fanboys here in all honesty.

[Jusek 2,031]

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[Chelsea? 892]

he left Schurrle in front of the goal and Andre hit the post just last match. He had another great pass then I don't remember to who - probably Eto'o.

Nobody is defending Oscar's every ability. You just spoke some BS when you called him useless offensively bar his goals. Oscar is no genius offensively, but he offers more than being our second top scorer and tackles in the season. And even those tackles should be counted as offensive when they're made in the attacking third and because of him we have a chance to try a shot. He creates space, he gives good passes, he links up with our other attacking players. Just because he isn't as brilliant as Mata creating chances it doesn't mean he's useless as you said he is. I don't feel like we are the ones acting like fanboys here in all honesty.

keeping the ball moving and creating space isn't a difficult task. We are better with oscar because of he is good on the counter and his workrate.

[bababoom 4,478]

Me I've always liked Oscar more than Mata.

Don't get me wrong, Mata is a good player but like Cole at Lille, he was good at giving the ball back to his run but other players have to make the run, carry the ball for him.

Last year Mata had an excellent year but look at the support Mata had when he was drifting to the right. All three of our most hard working players Ramires, Azpi, Oscar were there or drifting there. Mata couldn't have more support.

Look at the left side, Cole Lampard or Mikel, the slowest and less running players.

Against Shaktar, the only good periods we had was when Oscar and Hazard were working together on the left. No wonder that Jose Mourinho prefers these two to Mata.

I wasn't found of Mourinho in the beginning of the season but not because of Mata treatment, more because we were playing very poorly, slow at the back at that time.

I remember, you used to always mention Benitez , you don't do that anymore, does this mean you like what Jose's doing now?

For United, once Rooney and RVP come back Mata will be put out on the right,... having Mata - Rooney - Januzaj sounds mouth watering (for united fans) but it'll leave them vulnerable, once they lose the ball it'll be so easy to hit them on the counter.

[AswinR 96]

yea you pretty much said what I was saying. I never mentioned Oscar's dribbling as a problem. When was the last brilliant pass he made? Like I said, he is better for the system due to his work rate and directness, but his vision and passing is average.

Idk why the Oscar fanboys have to defend every ability of Oscar's.

i understand what u trying to say...no BRILLIANT passes....

just like to quote what mata said around last season mid "... with drogba we knew all we had to do was pass...."

u think anybody in our team has that much confidence on our strikers...mourinho " our strikers work hard for the team that's all i can ask from them" ....

how many 'brilliant' passes have you seen from hazard ?

and friend am not just an oscar fanboy.... i am a chelsea fanboy ... i kinda like defending all the players wearing blue ... its a sickness

[sutro 1,026]

i understand what u trying to say...no BRILLIANT passes....

just like to quote what mata said around last season mid "... with drogba we knew all we had to do was pass...."

u think anybody in our team has that much confidence on our strikers...mourinho " our strikers work hard for the team that's all i can ask from them" ....

how many 'brilliant' passes have you seen from hazard ?

and friend am not just an oscar fanboy.... i am a chelsea fanboy ... i kinda like defending all the players wearing blue ... its a sickness

I saw quite a few brilliant passes from Hazard, even last weekend against Stoke that pass on Eto'o i would call brilliant

[Stingray 9,441]

yea you pretty much said what I was saying. I never mentioned Oscar's dribbling as a problem. When was the last brilliant pass he made? Like I said, he is better for the system due to his work rate and directness, but his vision and passing is average.

Idk why the Oscar fanboys have to defend every ability of Oscar's.

how many 'brilliant' passes have you seen from hazard ?

Quite a few tbh.

[Chelsea? 892]

i understand what u trying to say...no BRILLIANT passes....

just like to quote what mata said around last season mid "... with drogba we knew all we had to do was pass...."

u think anybody in our team has that much confidence on our strikers...mourinho " our strikers work hard for the team that's all i can ask from them" ....

how many 'brilliant' passes have you seen from hazard ?

and friend am not just an oscar fanboy.... i am a chelsea fanboy ... i kinda like defending all the players wearing blue ... its a sickness

hazard isn't that brilliant of a passer either. that's why he's a winger. But hazard's passing is a couple of levels higher than Oscar's. And Hazard has had some really briliant passing this years

[AswinR 96]

I saw quite a few brilliant passes from Hazard, even last weekend against Stoke that pass on Eto'o i would call brilliant

hazard isn't that brilliant of a passer either. that's why he's a winger. But hazard's passing is a couple of levels higher than Oscar's. And Hazard has had some really briliant passing this years

Quite a few tbh.

my point wasnt hazard or oscar cant do brilliant passes or hasnt done enough!!....just the lack of many such passes maybe down to the confidence they have for our strikers...

hazad is a brilliant passer just as much he can beat defenders at the drop of a shoulder....stingray , i was comparing with mata from last season

just was trying to say if we had drogs then things might be a little different...

we now see players trying to release hazard or the other attacking mid more often and not the striker imo..

[Gilvorak 3,734]

What are you on about? Hazard makes brilliant passes all the time, even stats back that up. He's created more chances than any other player in the League this season. Oscar simply doesn't have Hazard's vision yet, stop blaming everything on our strikers.

It's getting beyond pathetic now.

[TrippingStep 336]

I find it strange when people diss Oscar and Hazard's passing ability. Oscar I understand, but Hazard too?! The last match itself he had great passes.

I wouldn't complain about Oscar's passing ability either. With his ability to score the goals AND defend, this guy is just awesome. And about his assists, please do remember the striker dilemna we're going through. It's kinda hard to get the assists. Just give him some time, the guy's still young. I'm sure he'll prove us all wrong soon enough, like he did to me in that free kick. Now that was something!

The only thing that mighttt concern me is his first touch though. But then again, that comes with time I suppose. And he's brazillian too, so here's hoping those noteworthy football genes help him there. :blue scalf:

For his first touch, it will improve when he will have a bit more strength in his legs to be more in balance when opponents breath on his neck.

[lionsden 4,689]

What are you on about? Hazard makes brilliant passes all the time, even stats back that up. He's created more chances than any other player in the League this season. Oscar simply doesn't have Hazard's vision yet, stop blaming everything on our strikers.

It's getting beyond pathetic now.

Nor passing ability and hazard isn't even a great passer

[Kieran. 6,317]

wrong thread

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Nor passing ability and hazard isn't even a great passer

I think Eden has shown some incredible pieces of vision in his career but he doesn't do it consistently. Oscar on the other hand has yet to show the level of playmaking for us.

[Stingray 9,441]

What are you on about? Hazard makes brilliant passes all the time, even stats back that up. He's created more chances than any other player in the League this season. Oscar simply doesn't have Hazard's vision yet, stop blaming everything on our strikers.

It's getting beyond pathetic now.

Nor passing ability and hazard isn't even a great passer

I agree he isn't great at all at crossing or high balls, but his one touch direct passing is really excellent imo.

[lionsden 4,689]

I agree he isn't great at all at crossing or high balls, but his one touch direct passing is really excellent imo.

I can't disagree with that.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

As many have pointed out Oscar is 22. I repeat 22. His potential is mouthwatering.

It's world cup year and he's Brasil's number 10. If he can perform at the level that we all know he is capable of, like Ozil did in 2010, his stock and reputation will only get even higher. He's already shown an unwavering ability to cope with high pressure situations: scoring a world-class hatrick in the u20 world cup, performing incredibly in Europe and least of all stepping up as Brasils undisputed number 10 at 21. I'm just praying he stays injury free and has a great world cup. Hopefully those questioning his ability will put in there place then. It's just a shame that some need this. He played a mindboggling 77 games in 2013 winning the man of the match award in the 7 consecutive games for Brazil. He averaged a goal every 90 mins, the same as Ronaldo and better that Messi (91 mins per goal) and Lewandowski (100 mins per goal) in the Europe last season. Honestly if he was at another club we'd be dreaming of signing him.

Also his assists may not have been incredible last year but his industry at only 21 led him to make more tackles in last season (109) than Mata and Hazard’s combined (69). This will only improve under Jose. Nevertheless, putting his 12 assists from last season aside I feel it is a huge dis-service to Oscar to constantly bring up his assists in judging his attacking contribution for us. Oscar as a playmaker is very much in the mould of a Kaka. In the year Kaka won Balon D'Or he played 41 games, scored 19 goals and had 12 assists. The year before when he was voted best playmaker of the year he only had 9 assists. These are good numbers but hardly reflect what Kaka brought to Milan.

Fact is Oscar is 22 and shows a maturity to his game that far exceeds his years. With the guidance of Mourinho and practically a guarantee starter for many years to come he can only get better. :blue scalf:

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Really needs to improve his passing. Had a shocker today, that beautiful shot aside.