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1 hour ago, Liuxas said:

Most overrated player in football history? Agree?. 25mln for a garbage player still can't believe we signed back in 2012. Worst transfer

How the hell can it be even jokingly considered "the worst transfer", when the club would easily recoup all of the money spent on him in case he was sold and in fact probably even make a profit. Never in any transfer reports with Oscar has the rumoured fee been less than the £19M Oscar was bought for (that's right £19M and not £25M, confirmed by Internacional in their financial report of that year).

It's true he hasn't been quite what was expected of him when he signed but let's not be ridiculous here.

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My two cents:against a team that needed to double the quality of their display for it to be considered abysmal, he did okay for the most part , but also had some Burnley-esque moments there.

I felt like sometimes Matic played more advanced than he did, but he covered a lot of distance and was everywhere.

We shouldn't let mediocre opponents and okay matches to make us believe this is the way to go. We need to have more ambition than that. I used to defend Oscar as strongly as one might, but after three years, even the most hopeful fan must give up. He isn't as bad right now as he showed in the past, still it doesn't make him good enough.

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2 hours ago, Barbara said:

My two cents:against a team that needed to double the quality of their display for it to be considered abysmal, he did okay for the most part , but also had some Burnley-esque moments there.

I felt like sometimes Matic played more advanced than he did, but he covered a lot of distance and was everywhere.

We shouldn't let mediocre opponents and okay matches to make us believe this is the way to go. We need to have more ambition than that. I used to defend Oscar as strongly as one might, but after three years, even the most hopeful fan must give up. He isn't as bad right now as he showed in the past, still it doesn't make him good enough.

Do you think Conte would have him out ? We have been linked with other midfielders this summer and I wonder who Conte wants out from our current starters. Is it Matic or Oscar ? Or maybe both. I think the squad needs a very good box to box midfielder with strong defense and good passing and then maybe we can play both Michy and Costa as starters. If we then add a CB and a LB then we would have a really world class squad with the ability to compete with the best in Europe. I hope that maybe by the end of this window we'll get one more player, and then next window we'll the other two.

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Better than Fabregas for what we're expecting from our midfielders. Yes is nowhere near Fabregas creativity wise but he adds way more than him in terms of pace, energy, pressing, and defending. He isn't exactly bad at attacking either. We shouldn't be relying on individuals to create goal scoring chances, the majority of our attack should come from practice in attacking movements in training.

That being said, Oscar still shouldn't get into an 'ideal' Chelsea starting XI. If we're gonna buy someone for that role it's important that they have the same profile as Oscar but the new player possesses superior qualities.

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  • 2 weeks later...

What the actual fuck, just noticed this guy isn't even 25. 

He surely has played an insane amount of football for his age, been critical of him at times but will surely cut him some slack next time. 

Needs to mature soon though, promising start to the season, hope he gets better by the week.

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Oscar and Matić should be rotated with Fabregas, Chalobah and RLC just to find perfect pair alongisde Kante :) Chalobah was really good in preseason but Ruben is probably the next big thing if he can add something to his workrate and agression without the ball 

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I know that many of you don't like Oscar, but just give it some time and Oscar will and might find his feet for Chelsea.

If Oscar stays at CFC until over 30+ years old, he might be the player that he should have been by now.

Oscar is very skinny and too thin and he needs to put some more meat and muscle and bulk up a little bit.

 

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17 hours ago, KevinAshburner said:

I know that many of you don't like Oscar, but just give it some time and Oscar will and might find his feet for Chelsea.

If Oscar stays at CFC until over 30+ years old, he might be the player that he should have been by now.

Oscar is very skinny and too thin and he needs to put some more meat and muscle and bulk up a little bit.

 

I like Oscar the only problem I have with Oscar is he's so inconsistent player but your right he does needs to bulk up he has a body shape off a 15 year old

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^^ :) true

Oscar is absolutely incapable of playing with his back to the goal, which a CAM must do from time to time. He must be facing the opponent goal at all times, making runs from the midfield, and that is what a number 8 should be doing, like Lampard used to do. I can certainly see him growing in his new/old role.

many positive changes with conte - good stuff so far.

 

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Absolutely disgraceful performance. I hope I'm not the only one that has noticed his unwillinglness to pass to Hazard, even when the latter is completely free. When he passes to him, it's like a last resort. This has been going on for quite a while now. And when Hazard doesn't get those initial touches, he has a hard time getting into the game, particularly in away matches like this.

I can speculate on his reluctance to pass to Hazard, but I just don't care anymore. Oscar just go away from Chelsea. I'm sick of watching you play for us.

 

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