Oscar

[stroey 2,525]

Jose is all about end results and team cohesion. He'll definitely help a footballer in the mental aspect or even their professionalism but he rarely ever gets the absolute best out of an individual like say, Ancelotti, Guardiola, Wenger, Rodgers etc. The only real exceptions are defenders.

Wow, are you joking? One main example per club.

didn't follow him at Porto yet

At Chelsea (first spell):

Drogba, he brought him here and made him (one of) the best striker in the EPL.

At Inter:

Sneijder, best year in his career, never repeated it again after Jose left.

Real Madrid:

Ozil, compare the current Ozil with the Real Madrid Ozil.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Still want him in the team but if Jose feels that he can be replaceable in his system then I am sure clubs will pay top money for him because he's a truly amazing player.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Really, I have no idea what to do with him.

We COULD get on without him but we'd have a very small squad and to be blunt, the only improvement on him is Isco or maybe Coutinho, both of which are not viable. He's only 23 anyway, next season will be pivotal for him, I think his success or failure will be what decides his future here is.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Need to be replaced.

We need someone more physical, more aggressive,more Stats.

[mtowle182 79]

coutinho is not better than oscar. oscar does what he is told, a soldier on the pitch. He has some brilliant games and is still so young. when we play matic-fabregas with oscar further forward, his ability to come deeper into space when cesc moves forward is unique and during matches when he does this we see some of our most brilliant football. we can all be very fickle sometimes and I think there is a lot of that going on in this thread. or just short memories.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Need to be replaced.

We need someone more physical, more aggressive,more Stats.

More stats? Oscar is in the top 10 of the most productive players in the PL.

1. Aguero 17+6 - A Goal or Assist every 67 Minutes

2. Costa 17+2 - A Goal or Assist every 89 Minutes

3. Sanchez 12+7 - A Goal or Assist every 105 Minutes

4. Fabregas 2+15 - A Goal or Assist every 115 Minutes

= Kane 14+3 - A Goal or Assist every 89 Minutes

5. Austin 14+2 - A Goal or Assist every 124 Minutes

6. Hazard 9+6 - A Goal or Assist every 153 Minutes

7. Oscar 6+7 - A Goal or Assist every 127 Minutes

= Cazorla 7+6 - A Goal or Assist every 162 Minutes

For someone to be producing a goal or assist every 127 minutes, while also always contributing so much defensively is excellent, the criticism he gets from some Chelsea fans is bizarre.

[Barbara 15,149]

More stats? Oscar is in the top 10 of the most productive players in the PL.

1. Aguero 17+6 - A Goal or Assist every 67 Minutes

2. Costa 17+2 - A Goal or Assist every 89 Minutes

3. Sanchez 12+7 - A Goal or Assist every 105 Minutes

4. Fabregas 2+15 - A Goal or Assist every 115 Minutes

= Kane 14+3 - A Goal or Assist every 89 Minutes

5. Austin 14+2 - A Goal or Assist every 124 Minutes

6. Hazard 9+6 - A Goal or Assist every 153 Minutes

7. Oscar 6+7 - A Goal or Assist every 127 Minutes

= Cazorla 7+6 - A Goal or Assist every 162 Minutes

For someone to be producing a goal or assist every 127 minutes, while also always contributing so much defensively is excellent, the criticism he gets from some Chelsea fans is bizarre.

that's what I've always defended, for someone that contributed as much as he did, he gets a lot more stick than say Willian who contributes with nice flicks now and then and a great deal of one assist or goal every blue moon (I'm only comparing them attack wise). I'm not saying he isn't entitled to criticism, he is. He's slumping once again in the second half of the season, but the stick he gets around here you would think he's preventing us from winning the league when in reality he won us some matches with goals and assists, was the first scorer in some games - an early scorer btw.

But now we should be replacing him with Coutinho or getting the creative/productive/attacking wonder known as Willian to lead us to bigger things. Please, if we're going to replace Oscar - which I'm not against btw (I'm against selling him, not upgrading him), make sure it's someone worth it. Willian isn't the answer, Coutinho isn't the answer and while I do believe he's in a bad streak now, Oscar has had better streaks this season than both Coutinho and Willian on their best streaks. Not that many will agree because the fashionable thing to post here these days alongside Mourinho's ugly and pragmatic football is moaning about how despicable of a footballer Oscar is.

Carry on that. Fact remains 1) Mourinho is back winning titles and he has big chances of winning the league - deservedly; 2) the club has just renewed Oscar's contract mid-season, something we did to very few players lately, so despite all theirr technicolor dreams I don't think the board is looking forward to selling him. He's here to stay at least for another season (and diminishing it to one season is a stretch already). If we're bringing another #10 is a complete different story, but people expecting to see him gone in the summer can fall from their beds, hit their heads on the floor and wake up. Something drastic would have to happen, and by that I mean someone willing to pay an incredible amount of money for him. But if he's as bad as you guys make him out to be, who would pay this for him? Luiz, Mata and Kev with all their problems and criticism here showed their worth in their NTs (Mata not much) and Luiz and Mata showed it here too (although they also had problems) and the three of them were players that mastered a couple of things. Most of you deem Oscar to be mediocre on everything he does, so by what logic would you see someone coming with big money for him? And if no one is willing to pay big money for him because he's terrible and average on everything, then you expect the club that has done the best business in the last couple of years to let one of their young bets to go by change money? His contract ends on 2019, why would the club do it if they planned to sell him less than 12 months later? I try to find the logic, but it keeps evading me.

[5354 204]

We need the Brazil Oscar to show up... lolool

[Oscar 441]

Wow, are you joking? One main example per club.

didn't follow him at Porto yet

At Chelsea (first spell):

Drogba, he brought him here and made him (one of) the best striker in the EPL.

At Inter:

Sneijder, best year in his career, never repeated it again after Jose left.

Real Madrid:

Ozil, compare the current Ozil with the Real Madrid Ozil.

Wesley, unfortunately was in a bad situation in his prime at real and ajax he was really good..

Ozil, before he came to madrid was probably the best i saw from ozil via 2010 world cup.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I take no pleasure in saying this but Oscar was not missed today at all. Not once during the game did I think to myself 'why didn't Oscar start' or 'bring Oscar on'

That's great! Means the manager has options and got it spot on! Carefree!

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Ramires was purchased for right around the same amount as Oscar, the now sold Schurrle was a couple million less. Why people think that because Oscar is our regular 10 means he has to start every big game is beyond me. He's another squad player who has his role within the team. Because he doesn't play in all of the big games doesn't mean he has no value...

As a matter of fact we're getting great return on a guy we bought for under 20m. Lower your expectations and you will love him AND Ramires! Two perfect examples of great squad guys

[bethos1 802]

Ramires was purchased for right around the same amount as Oscar, the now sold Schurrle was a couple million less. Why people think that because Oscar is our regular 10 means he has to start every big game is beyond me. He's another squad player who has his role within the team. Because he doesn't play in all of the big games doesn't mean he has no value...

As a matter of fact we're getting great return on a guy we bought for under 20m. Lower your expectations and you will love him AND Ramires! Two perfect examples of great squad guys

I will never love Ramires [emoji14] I do like Oscar though.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Ramires was purchased for right around the same amount as Oscar, the now sold Schurrle was a couple million less. Why people think that because Oscar is our regular 10 means he has to start every big game is beyond me. He's another squad player who has his role within the team. Because he doesn't play in all of the big games doesn't mean he has no value...

As a matter of fact we're getting great return on a guy we bought for under 20m. Lower your expectations and you will love him AND Ramires! Two perfect examples of great squad guys

Almost every single source has it that we paid £25m for Oscar.

Question for you. When we bought Oscar, what expectations did you have for him? Because many viewed him alongside with Hazard as our future stars. He isn't looking like he'll ever be as important as Eden to us though.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Almost every single source has it that we paid £25m for Oscar.

Question for you. When we bought Oscar, what expectations did you have for him? Because many viewed him alongside with Hazard as our future stars. He isn't looking like he'll ever be as important as Eden to us though.

Well Internacional's accounting firm have it at 19.35M, I don't see a reason why they would lie. Also if you look at Oscar's Amortized fee there is no way its 25m we paid for him.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I will never love Ramires [emoji14] I do like Oscar though.

Love Ramires he's without question the perfect squad player!