CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Selling Oscar will be Jose's downfall...However, makes sense if the return is Pogba. Pogba-Maticpedro-willian-hazardCostaPace+Power! Why would you have Willian in the 10 ahead of Oscar... here's an idea, offload Willian instead. With Ivanovic being phased out of RB he is now redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Why would you have Willian in the 10 ahead of Oscar...If he is sold to Juve... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Why would you have Willian in the 10 ahead of Oscar...PACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 If he is sold to Juve... See my edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 PACEno goal scorers... Unionjack, TheIceMan and CFC888 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 no goal scorers...oscar is a goal scorer? no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 oscar is a goal scorer? no.yes he is. He was in the top 5 last season of our goalscorers. And he shoots outside the box. CFC888, TheIceMan and Blue Armour 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 yes he is. He was in the top 5 last season of our goalscorers. And he shoots outside the box.are poor 90% of the time...2. our top 5? what if only costa and hazard had good goal stats last year...oscar scored like 6-7-8 goals?... not a goalscorer. Unionjack and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Why would you have Willian in the 10 ahead of Oscar... here's an idea, offload Willian instead. With Ivanovic being phased out of RB he is now redundant.Cos juve want oscar, not willian. And since we are taking away one of the prized assets, we mighy have to give them what they need.As for what willian offers - more pace, better dribbling, better defensive workrate. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 We aren't signing Pogba & Oscar isn't leaving. Take that discussion to the Transfer Talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Selling Oscar will be Jose's downfall...However, makes sense if the return is Pogba. Pogba-Maticpedro-willian-hazardCostaPace+Power! Willian there pretty much ruins the formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted August 21, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 21, 2015 are poor 90% of the time...2. our top 5? what if only costa and hazard had good goal stats last year...oscar scored like 6-7-8 goals?... not a goalscorer.Like it or not, Oscar is a goalscorer. He has consistently been one of our top goalscorers in each season since he's been here. In fact, Oscar, who we know usually goes AWOL in the second half of seasons, still has more goals and assists than Willian.Oscar:12/13 - 12 goals, 10 assists13/14 - 11 goals, 6 assists14/15 - 7 goals, 9 assistsTotal - 30 goals and 25 assists in all competitionsWillian:13/14 - 4 goals, 6 assists14/15 - 4 goals, 5 assistsTotal - 8 goals and 11 assists in all competitions Milan, Henrique, Gilvorak and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Like it or not, Oscar is a goalscorer. He has consistently been one of our top goalscorers in each season since he's been here. In fact, Oscar, who we know usually goes AWOL in the second half of seasons, still has more goals and assists than Willian.Oscar:12/13 - 12 goals, 10 assists13/14 - 11 goals, 6 assists14/15 - 7 goals, 9 assistsTotal - 30 goals and 25 assists in all competitionsWillian:13/14 - 4 goals, 6 assists14/15 - 4 goals, 5 assistsTotal - 8 goals and 11 assists in all competitionsI'm sorry but our team's incredible lack of goalscorers doesn't really make Oscar one. didierforever, Unionjack and stroey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm sorry but our team's incredible lack of goalscorers doesn't really make Oscar one.This is a midfielder we're talking about here and to have scored at least 10 goals in 2 of the 3 seasons since Oscar has been here is a pretty decent return. You can't expect everyone to be like Lampard on top of that, had Oscar been more consistent in the last 3 seasons, his goal and assists stats could have been even better. Blue Armour and TheIceMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 The issue with him is that he seems to have stood still for 3 years now, he never really improved that much over the years if at all and that is not good for someone of his potential. I mean Hazard was ok for the 1st year, great in 13-14 and truly got to new level last season, Oscar when he signed was expected to follow a similar path but instead his curve seems to be a straight line instead of a upward one. He is sort of a 'decent' attacking mid but that is about it really, probably will get around 10-20 goals and assists combined every year in a team like Spurs but clearly he won't be able to do that here. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 This is a midfielder we're talking about here and to have scored at least 10 goals in 2 of the 3 seasons since Oscar has been here is a pretty decent return. You can't expect everyone to be like Lampard on top of that, had Oscar been more consistent in the last 3 seasons, his goal and assists stats could have been even better.Yea it's decent. I just wouldn't label him a "goalscorer". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Shame Oscar picked up that injury. It was so fun not reading the same regurgitated bile for once. Btw, take away penalties & Oscar had a better Goals/assists per minute ratio than Hazard. TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Well, it's pretty simple really, isn't it. Either me and Gilvo were correct in saying that the lack of pre season has stopped Oscar being consistent in the latter part of the season, and his goals go up to 15 or so and his assists accordingly (good for an AM) or he bottles it and he fucks off this time next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 We haven't had a PROPER number 10 for awhile now.Yeah OK Oscar runs around, he has touches of sheer brilliance and he offers OK up field defence but his goals and assists have gone down over the last 3 seasons and we really should try to get an upgrade.Its a position that needs a specialist and neither Willian nor Cescy can do it proper. OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Well, it's pretty simple really, isn't it. Either me and Gilvo were correct in saying that the lack of pre season has stopped Oscar being consistent in the latter part of the season, and his goals go up to 15 or so and his assists accordingly (good for an AM) or he bottles it and he fucks off this time next season.Fairish. I say that because, for me, if Oscar fails to deliver this season it will be because he isn't good enough, not because he's bottled it.I've long held a different view to yours. For me it is no more than an excuse to blame Oscar's woes on too much football, too little rest and truncated preseasons. While the lad is undoubtedly the best number 10 we have he is, in my opinion, simply not good enough to hold down that role for team hoping to be be competitive at the very top of the game.By the way I have never accepted the widely held view that Oscar is consistent before Christmas and inconsistent after it. I see him as inconsistent all the time, it's just that by Christamas coaches tire of waiting for things to improve.In fact this whole consistent/inconsistent argument is one of the great myths of football. All players are inconsistent, all the time. It is just that with some players, players like Oscar I suggest, their contribution is only good enough when they are at the very top of their game. David Silva has good games and bad games but, even when he's bad, it's clear that he's a top quality number 10. That is barely true of Oscar even when he's at the top of his performance range. stroey and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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