Thorgan Hazard

[Polo7 3,496]

I can only imagine the hate Mourinho will get from certain "fans" if Thorgan doesnt make it here. Be like the whole Lukaku and KDB saga. What do all 3 have in common I wonder....

[Christacinto 137]

I can only imagine the hate Mourinho will get from certain "fans" if Thorgan doesnt make it here. Be like the whole Lukaku and KDB saga. What do all 3 have in common I wonder....

Here we go ... again

[zolayes 14,489]

Here we go ... again

Ignore him ...

[Christacinto 137]

i agree mate

I honestly don't... I think he's nowhere near physical enough to assert himself in the Premier League.

It's all fine doing it at Zulte and even in the Bundesliga, but playing under Mourinho in the Premier League is a whole different ball game.

Still a long way to go before he becomes the machine he needs to be to be given a run at Chelsea's.

That being said, I hope I'm wrong :dude:

[LukakutoStamford 779]

It has nothing to do with country of origin in any players case.

The issue with Lukaku was that his style of play didn't fit with Mourinho and he's severely limited as a target man at the moment.

Re: De Bruyne it didn't work and I suspect it was De Bruyne's poor tackling/defensive work that did him in

Re: Thorgan no one can tell if he's talented enough to make it at Chelsea. The bigger issue is that absent Eden the AMs appear severely limited in the ability to create and distribute for others so much so that God forbid anything happen to Eden Chelsea would be in serious difficulty in terms of creating goals.

My comment was moreso an indictment of the current AMs on the squad rather than Thorgan's skill/ability level.

Truth be told if prompts Jose to get Sterling/Reus etc to fix the issue then great.

Thorgan is a promising player that could help provide a different playmaking skill set than his brother as to whether that will happen at Chelsea is anyone's guess.

[lionsden 4,689]

I said from day one that he should have taken Salah's slot as there was no need for buying the Egyptian and nothing has changed that pov. However football is unpredictable and Thorgan could have easily ended up as bad as Mo has been in the first team afterall he was voted the best player in the swiss league before we bought him. but there's only one way to find out if keeping him would have been a better decision and that's by adding him to the first team next season.

[beyondinvisible 47]

No player turns into a star overnight even if they have the talent. Assuming he does get the chance to play for Chelsea, he will need time to adjust to the league and to his teammates, plus the manager's style and philosophy.

[Stingray 9,441]

I can only imagine the hate Mourinho will get from certain "fans" if Thorgan doesnt make it here. Be like the whole Lukaku and KDB saga. What do all 3 have in common I wonder....

You never stop, do you. Sad being.

[Hamilton 2,120]

So sad..

[CHOULO19 24,332]

To the people saying he can never be a Chelsea starting XI player, how much of Gladbach have you seen this season? They are not AT ALL far behind us.

They're second in the Bundes Liga and have not lost any matches in any competitions this season. They're playing some excellent football. Imo, they are just lacking the killer instinct and the ability to break down teams that defend deep (what Jose would call "balls") to be a really top team. They're certainly better than many teams in the CL this season including all 3 of the teams in our group.

Granted, Thorgan is not a starter for them yet (hopefully the goal mid-week earns him another start in their next match), but he's not far off at all. He comes on in almost every match and starts in the cup and the EL. I have no idea why people would want to write him off when he clearly has talent and room for development.

[Weckerz 3,781]

To the people saying he can never be a Chelsea starting XI player, how much of Gladbach have you seen this season? They are not AT ALL far behind us.

They're second in the Bundes Liga and have not lost any matches in any competitions this season. They're playing some excellent football. Imo, they are just lacking the killer instinct and the ability to break down teams that defend deep (what Jose would call "balls") to be a really top team. They're certainly better than many teams in the CL this season including all 3 of the teams in our group.

Granted, Thorgan is not a starter for them yet (hopefully the goal mid-week earns him another start in their next match), but he's not far off at all. He comes on in almost every match and starts in the cup and the EL. I have no idea why people would want to write him off when he clearly has talent and room for development.

The fact Eden was a lot better at his age probably plays a role. Every player's progression curve is different though so that doesn't mean much.

I didn't think he'd make it here when we signed him but after his year on loan at Zulte and now at gladbach I'm not so sure.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

The fact Eden was a lot better at his age probably plays a role. Every player's progression curve is different though so that doesn't mean much.

I didn't think he'd make it here when we signed him but after his year on loan at Zulte and now at gladbach I'm not so sure.

Obviously Eden is much more talented. His natural ability on the ball is matched by very very few in the world. But I honestly think that Thorgan now is a more all-rounded player than Eden was at his age. It hard to compare because of the different styles. I can see Thorgan developing into a box-to-box central midfielder or a number 10. I think he'd have a better chance of making it here.

[ballackstothat 43]

wtf happened to salah he used to go past people for fun at basle, He just looks so average when i see him play.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Box-to-box?!?!? No chance, Thorgan is just as weak as Mata is on the ball. Can't see him making it here to be honest. Doesn't have his brothers strength or skill

That's not to say he won't become a good player but I doubt it will be here especially under Jose.

[Polo7 3,496]

You never stop, do you. Sad being.

Here comes the defence force.

[Myself 793]

To the people saying he can never be a Chelsea starting XI player, how much of Gladbach have you seen this season? They are not AT ALL far behind us.

They're second in the Bundes Liga and have not lost any matches in any competitions this season. They're playing some excellent football. Imo, they are just lacking the killer instinct and the ability to break down teams that defend deep (what Jose would call "balls") to be a really top team. They're certainly better than many teams in the CL this season including all 3 of the teams in our group.

Granted, Thorgan is not a starter for them yet (hopefully the goal mid-week earns him another start in their next match), but he's not far off at all. He comes on in almost every match and starts in the cup and the EL. I have no idea why people would want to write him off when he clearly has talent and room for development.

yeah but the bundesliga is shit.......

[CHOULO19 24,332]

yeah but the bundesliga is shit.......

Tell that to Bayern Munich and the German NT......

Here comes the defence force.

Do you have a relevant point to make? Because it seems you're only making provocations and nothing that actually adds to the discussion.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Box-to-box?!?!? No chance, Thorgan is just as weak as Mata is on the ball. Can't see him making it here to be honest. Doesn't have his brothers strength or skill

That's not to say he won't become a good player but I doubt it will be here especially under Jose.

Yes he's not a box to box he's a playing making AM.

As for being weak as Mata I don't know if I agree with that characterization. He's built similarly to Oscar.

Too early to tell if he'll get a shot at Chelsea. Most people thought he was a thrown in to Eden's deal and here we are 2+ years later and he's won a Belgian golden boot and is a squad player pushing more time on a team that's #2 in the Bundesliga.

Very few players explode on the scene at such an early age like Eden. So for the remaining 99.7% it takes time.