Daniel Sturridge

[Las7 951]

Well you enjoy that. Personally I'm not of the opinion that we need a striker 'banging in the goals on a consistent basis'. When you have talent throughout the team like we do then I think you need a facilitator more than anything. You don't get more points for a goal if your striker scores it than if your left-winger does.

Like I said, I'm not disputing what you've said about Torres but he still pulls the shirt on every week so I don't see why people constantly feel the need to abuse him. But then there's a few things about certain supporters that confounds me nowadays.

I'm not abusing Torres, I'm saying the facts about him since he was signed there has not been a single match I would comfortably say he has played at a World Class level. He was not signed to score against Genk; Leicester; Nordsjaelland; QPR; Monterray; Wolves etc. He was bought to be scoring against United; City; Tottenham; Liverpool; Arsenal on constant basis - managed two goals against those teams in over a dozen matches.

He is not good enough and I do wonder whether you defended Sturridge; Kalou; Malouda; Bosingwa while they were at the club, I could go and check but I'm afraid of what I will find out - especially when looking at the type of abuse you throw around at fellow members of the forum.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I'm not abusing Torres, I'm saying the facts about him since he was signed there has not been a single match I would comfortably say he has played at a World Class level. He was not signed to score against Genk; Leicester; Nordsjaelland; QPR; Monterray; Wolves etc. He was bought to be scoring against United; City; Tottenham; Liverpool; Arsenal on constant basis - managed two goals against those teams in over a dozen matches.

He is not good enough and I do wonder whether you defended Sturridge; Kalou; Malouda; Bosingwa while they were at the club, I could go and check but I'm afraid of what I will find out - especially when looking at the type of abuse you throw around at fellow members of the forum.

I can't remember posting much about those players, but you're willing to look.

BTW, we've just confirmed the signing of Willian.

[Reddish-Blue 2,339]

Well you enjoy that. Personally I'm not of the opinion that we need a striker 'banging in the goals on a consistent basis'. When you have talent throughout the team like we do then I think you need a facilitator more than anything. You don't get more points for a goal if your striker scores it than if your left-winger does.

Like I said, I'm not disputing what you've said about Torres but he still pulls the shirt on every week so I don't see why people constantly feel the need to abuse him. But then there's a few things about certain supporters that confounds me nowadays.

Even though I agree with the opinion that we don't need a striker banging in goals on a consistent basis....

We do need a quality striker, capable of scoring that winning goal in a tight match with limited chances....and currently, none of our strikers look capable of completing that task.

Letting go of Sturridge was a mistake and until a certain flop of a striker leaves the club, this thread will get posts for every goal he scores at LFC.

[blu35_army 551]

has we put the "buy out" clause when selling him??? another Torres victim's....

[Laylabelle 9,346]

I don't know if RDM actually wanted to start Torres in all those games...but Roman promised him the starting striker role and that's exactly what he got.

Sturridge, what else can you say...gifted young striker, just needed confidence and game-time. Easily capable of scoring 20 goals a season

Seemed the same with Sheva...crap but yet got games despite being so poor in those games.Needed confidence and game time,didnt get it with us.Made the right choice in his career to move as he'd probably spent more time on the bench.Annoying that its happened annoying that made a massive mistake but to late just bleehhh....

[The_Flash 1,144]

I never quite got why we pretty much gave him away. I thought he was a good player, watching MOTD and seeing him score good goal for Liverpool.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

if people dont wanna talk about sturridge then why cant the FUCK they just stay off the STURRIDGE THREAD, because surprisingly in the sturridge thread people are going to talk about sturridge, just like in the mata thread we talk about mata, or in the hazard thread we talk about hazard.

also please should stop with the same old "why dont some members FUCK OFF to the RAWK" joke because its not funny and its got too old.

my suggestion is if you dont wanna talk about sturridge then STAY THE FUCK OUT. no one mentioned you in their posts, and thus its not NECESSARY of you to post something and tell other members to FUCK OFF to liverpool forums.

Couldnt agree more. The problem is that people have made up in their mind that they didnt like/dont like him as a player nor person. Stuff such as selfish and bad attitude is what people use to describe him. Yet, when you look at him play in Liverpool, where he is apprichiated, gets what he deserves etc; that is simply not what he is like.

I never quite got why we pretty much gave him away. I thought he was a good player, watching MOTD and seeing him score good goal for Liverpool.

Because of Torres.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Because of Torres.

What was his camp saying when the club approached them about a contract extension?

[YouNameIt 1,511]

What was his camp saying when the club approached them about a contract extension?

Enlighten me.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Enlighten me.

So you don't know? I assumed you did because you said he left because of Torres.

[Reddish-Blue 2,339]

So you don't know? I assumed you did because you said he left because of Torres.

What would you expect his camp to say?

He was sitting on the bench, whilst a past-it striker got opportunity, after opportunity to impress...

[YouNameIt 1,511]

So you don't know? I assumed you did because you said he left because of Torres.

What would you expect his camp to say?

He was sitting on the bench, whilst a past-it striker got opportunity, after opportunity to impress...

This. AND played our of position when he actually got some playtime.

[The only place to be 11,313]

What would you expect his camp to say?

He was sitting on the bench, whilst a past-it striker got opportunity, after opportunity to impress...

Unfortunately when you cost about £100 million you get more opportunities to impress. That's just how the real world works.

His contract was running down though and realistically I don't know what the club could do to be honest - and please see I've used the word realistically. In fact I'll underline it and bold it.

[Las7 951]

Kaka also cost 100 million but he is sitting on the bench - how much he cost is a load of bollocks really.

We simply sacked every manger at the time he realized that Torres is past it and would never be good enough for a club of our caliber.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Kaka also cost 100 million but he is sitting on the bench - how much he cost is a load of bollocks really.

How much something or someone costs isn't a load of bollocks. I did underline the word 'realistically' for a reason.

We simply sacked every manger at the time he realized that Torres is past it and would never be good enough for a club of our caliber.

That's not quite true though is it. Again, the word 'realistically' is a little bit important.

[Laylabelle 9,346]

Just seemed a case of having to play Torres in order to justify us spending 50m on him and trying to make it look like he was worth it.May not been the case just how its appeared.

[Las7 951]

How much something or someone costs isn't a load of bollocks. I did underline the word 'realistically' for a reason.

That's not quite true though is it. Again, the word 'realistically' is a little bit important.

How much a player cost is a load of bollocks, specially if that same player is given two and a half years to find form,

The board screwed up making our managers play a player who is past it and should realistically be playing at a Championship level club. Since he scores the majority of his goals against QPR; Genks; Wolves; Leicesters etc.

You said it's how the World works well I show you Kaka; I show you Carroll; I show you Mendieta; I show you Sheva; I show you Veron; countless of flops who have not been given two and a half years to turn things around.

[The only place to be 11,313]

How much a player cost is a load of bollocks,

No, it's an economic reality.