Eden Hazard

[LAM09 6,840]

On 2/10/2019 at 6:37 PM, MrExcalibur100 said:

At the end of the day football like any other sport is a business and the career of a professional football unlike most other careers is very short. Anyway, I expect him to be gone by the end of the season. No one can then criticize him for 6-0 defeats away from home surrounded by Alonso, Barkley, Pedro and a 30 something past peak striker. It's been 7 years and we still can't assemble a world class squad to help this man. Look at what De Bruyne has at City to what Hazard has and has had at Chelsea.

We'll know how good we are in this Premier League when he isnt here next year.

Why do you & others keep bringing up clubs that are breaking FFP (pointless or not) right, left & center with little to no repercussions?

The entire structure of the club is a utter mess with little indication of change on the horizon, so we need get used to our current predicament as things stand. 

 

2 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

What a load of BS. 

He wanted out last summer, we said no, when he had 2 years left on his contract. 

You can't then turn around a year later and demand he sign a new contract to give us a better position. The club knew when they made that decision his contract would only have a year left in the summer. 

If we wanted the maximum we should have sold last summer. Our position is on the club not Hazard.

Him wanting out and the club actually receiving offers are two different things.

He's a back up option for Madrid

 

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29 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

 

 

Him wanting out and the club actually receiving offers are two different things.

He's a back up option for Madrid

 

We made it clear we didn't want to sell him at all. Hazard stated in an interview he wanted out and we told him we weren't gonna let him go.  Matt Law pretty much said something similar that we weren't gonna let him leave for any money.

And even if we were willing to sell him, apart from PSG, who are essentially run by a group of rich oil sheiks, no club in the world would have been able to afford what we would have asked for Hazard.

The fact we're still looking for a 100 million when he will only have a year on his contract says a lot about how much money we would have wanted in the summer when he still had 2 years left. 

Also by your logic of "no bids made so no interest" Real Madrid also haven't made a bid for Neymar either... 

Why would a club make an offer if they know it's just gonna get rejected anyway ? 

[LAM09 6,840]

We made it clear we didn't want to sell him at all. Hazard stated in an interview he wanted out and we told him we weren't gonna let him go.  Matt Law pretty much said something similar that we weren't gonna let him leave for any money.

And even if we were willing to sell him, apart from PSG, who are essentially run by a group of rich oil sheiks, no club in the world would have been able to afford what we would have asked for Hazard.

The fact we're still looking for a 100 million when he will only have a year on his contract says a lot about how much money we would have wanted in the summer when he still had 2 years left. 

Also by your logic of "no bids made so no interest" Real Madrid also haven't made a bid for Neymar either... 

 

 

We can want all we like, it doesn't mean we will get it. A swap deal is probably the best we can hope for.

 

 

PSG are the bigger fish when it comes to transfers. Real Madrid's interest in their top two stars is an open secret.

 

 

 

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

 

 

We can want all we like, it doesn't we will get it.

PSG are the bigger fish when it comes to transfers. Real Madrid's interest in their top two stars is an open secret.
 

 

Sure i don't expect us to get a 100 million. 

With only a year left and Hazard making it clear he wants to go to Real Madrid our position is very weak.

Real madrid's interest in them has been mainly media rumours. Similar to the rumours that Hazard's on their transferlist. 

And no bids have been made for any of them. Again your logic of "no bids , no interest" is flawed imo. 

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18 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

What a load of BS. 

He wanted out last summer, we said no, when he had 2 years left on his contract. 

You can't then turn around a year later and demand he sign a new contract to give us a better position. The club knew when they made that decision his contract would only have a year left in the summer. 

If we wanted the maximum we should have sold last summer. Our position is on the club not Hazard.

WTF??

He is mostly only here in body and his head and heart is here when Eden wants them to be here sadly.

I'm not saying anything about him wanting to leave 2 years ago, he did -- I  know it was the boards fault for not capitalizing on his value back then. Our board has a lot to answer for.

But I do also realize that Edens value to us is not a black and white answer.He is of value to us in more ways than purely playing. And it is those values that make me want Eden to stay.

But that doesn't mean my initial thought of him to sign the contract with the RM clause make it not a good idea - FOR US.

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Real will target Paris St-Germain's 27-year-old Brazil forward Neymar this summer, which could rule out a move for Chelsea and Belgium playmaker Eden Hazard, 28.(Sunday Times)

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I have just watched Real vs Girona. They looked awful. I don't know why they want hazard when the Madrid fans want vinicius to be their next star. Vinicius and Hazard together is to be a problem defensively. 

Plus why Hazard want to come and play for this team. This Madrid team is too old and need a major freshen up everywhere. 

[coolhead23 1,146]

I dont think Hazard is Real's number 1 target though they can be unpredictable ... Feel they are after Neymar and/or Mbappé and only if they are not able to get any one of those then it's Hazard. The Hazard rumor has goes gone cold for now because I m sure Hazard's camp it pushing for the move to Madrid and they dont have an assurance for now.

Feel it's going to be a long summer saga and if Hazard goes it would be towards the end of the window. Going to be interesting!!! 

 

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3 hours ago, coolhead23 said:

I dont think Hazard is Real's number 1 target though they can be unpredictable ... Feel they are after Neymar and/or Mbappé and only if they are not able to get any one of those then it's Hazard. The Hazard rumor has goes gone cold for now because I m sure Hazard's camp it pushing for the move to Madrid and they dont have an assurance for now.

I think this makes it harder for Chelsea.  I think Real know he wants to join them and feel they can come in and get him whenever they please.  If that's the case they'll probably go for Neymar and if they can't pull it off they'll just come for Hazard at the end of the window.  If he jumps ship at the end of the window we could be in a real bind.  I'm hesitant to have faith in the board being able to navigate this situation and come out the other side in good shape.  

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if the mountain won't come to Muhammad...

Hazard says no to Madrid

According to reports from Spain, Eden Hazard has said no to Real Madrid. Apparently, Roman Abramovich has contacted Zinedine Zidane to take over the reins at Chelsea and the Frenchman’s arrival would suffice to keep the Belgian at the club.

amen to this , have a blessed day

 

[Special Juan 27,529]

There is big talk of Neymar going to Madrid, not only that but Vinicius JR is playing all the time so I am not sure where Hazard fits there in all honesty.

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10 hours ago, mccg said:

if the mountain won't come to Muhammad...

Hazard says no to Madrid

According to reports from Spain, Eden Hazard has said no to Real Madrid. Apparently, Roman Abramovich has contacted Zinedine Zidane to take over the reins at Chelsea and the Frenchman’s arrival would suffice to keep the Belgian at the club.

amen to this , have a blessed day

 

That link goes to a story about Icardi. Also, I am 99% sure this is pure fake news. Zidane is really hesitant to manage an EPL team, as he cannot speak English for shit. Also he wants a complete and massive squad overhaul and Roman has shown no inclination to drop that type of money since his first two years, and finally, I have less than zero faith the board can pull it off. Maybe if they completely give Zidane ALL transfer power, all sales power, and a blank cheque. Good luck with that happening!

When I see Luiz, Alonso, Willian, etc kicked to the curb and removed from the club, then I will start to believe Zidane is on the way. He also wants Hazard to stay. That would have to be a combo deal, with Zidane getting Hazard to give up on Real in exchange for ZZ coming here.

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1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

There is big talk of Neymar going to Madrid, not only that but Vinicius JR is playing all the time so I am not sure where Hazard fits there in all honesty.

It fits in the hope PSG give us more money for Hazard than Madrid would.

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He would never go to psg, he loves Lille to much for it..

[OneMoSalah 8,810]

1 hour ago, Hamilton said:

He would never go to psg, he loves Lille to much for it..

And Courtois wouldnt go to Real. Cesc wouldnt play for another team in England. Among countless others. 

At the end of the day if Real dont go for him because they get Neymar and PSG did offering huge transfer fee and huge money I wouldnt be surprised. I think he will be gone regardless. Doesnt have to be Real. Could be Bayern, could be Barca, could be PSG  could be Juventus. Who knows.

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And Courtois wouldnt go to Real. Cesc wouldnt play for another team in England. Among countless others. 
At the end of the day if Real dont go for him because they get Neymar and PSG did offering huge transfer fee and huge money I wouldnt be surprised. I think he will be gone regardless. Doesnt have to be Real. Could be Bayern, could be Barca, could be PSG  could be Juventus. Who knows.

It's not that simple though. You have to look at the person's character, the things they care about, and their situation.

Fabregas' and Courtois situations are unbelievably different. Fab apparently wanted to go back to Arsenal before he joined us but they didn't want him (him and ozil in the same team would be an absolute nightmare as a coach). Fab wanted to play and challenge for titles, and we were a perfect fit for that. Courtois wanted to move for his kids, and he was always a turd. He didn't grow up in madrid, he was simply on loan there for a few seasons.

Hazard on the other clearly absolutely loves Lille. He's said previously he doesn't want to go to another french team and that he has already played in the french league so he doesn't want that experience again soon. Haz is a really good human too. He also obviously only has eyes for Real if he leaves. If he's going to disrupt his family and life here, he's doing it for his childhood dream. The huge wages don't hold up here either. Yeah, maybe he'd make a little more there than here, but it's clear hazard isn't after money. The man has his priorities straight.

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38 minutes ago, Miguelito said:

It's not that simple though. You have to look at the person's character, the things they care about, and their situation.

Fabregas' and Courtois situations are unbelievably different. Fab apparently wanted to go back to Arsenal before he joined us but they didn't want him (him and ozil in the same team would be an absolute nightmare as a coach). Fab wanted to play and challenge for titles, and we were a perfect fit for that. Courtois wanted to move for his kids, and he was always a turd. He didn't grow up in madrid, he was simply on loan there for a few seasons.

Hazard on the other clearly absolutely loves Lille. He's said previously he doesn't want to go to another french team and that he has already played in the french league so he doesn't want that experience again soon. Haz is a really good human too. He also obviously only has eyes for Real if he leaves. If he's going to disrupt his family and life here, he's doing it for his childhood dream. The huge wages don't hold up here either. Yeah, maybe he'd make a little more there than here, but it's clear hazard isn't after money. The man has his priorities straight.

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It doesn't matter. Cesc loved Arsenal.... Courtois loved Atletico, Torres loved Liverpool... Ashley Cole loved Arsenal.... countless players have done it in the past and players will do it still. Good character or not.

If it came down to leaving Chelsea (which I think is 100% what he has decided to do) and only PSG made a move do you think hed say na? No chance, we are looking at no CL football next season again potentially. Realistically he could go anywhere. Good character or not, weve seen enough of it in modern day football to know that loyalty is totally different to what it was 20 years ago. Would be absolutely naive to think he would 100% not go to Paris just because "he loves Lille".

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50 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

It doesn't matter. Cesc loved Arsenal.... Courtois loved Atletico, Torres loved Liverpool... Ashley Cole loved Arsenal.... countless players have done it in the past and players will do it still. Good character or not.

If it came down to leaving Chelsea (which I think is 100% what he has decided to do) and only PSG made a move do you think hed say na? No chance, we are looking at no CL football next season again potentially. Realistically he could go anywhere. Good character or not, weve seen enough of it in modern day football to know that loyalty is totally different to what it was 20 years ago. Would be absolutely naive to think he would 100% not go to Paris just because "he loves Lille".

It does matter because all of these are situational. I agree that things like this have happened and will continue to happen, and that loyalty isn't what it used to be. 

But like I said, it is not just because he loves Lille. There is so much more behind it, which I explained in my previous post. And yes, I honestly believe that if PSG is the only club that comes in for him, he would say no. His interviews and attitude and character and care for his family and honestly his lack of drive at times all point towards that. I think he cares more about enjoying football and life than winning all the time (I find this refreshing, although a better middle ground would be ideal).  And it's clear in his mind that is either here or Madrid.