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23 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

I'll say it again like I did in the past. Best big game performer in CFC history alongside Drogba. "The man for the big occassion". 

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Can't say that yet until he does it in the CL for me. 

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13 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Can't say that yet until he does it in the CL for me. 

The problem is that we honestly haven't been that relevant in the Champions League since 2012. It's not like the mid to late 2000's. Hazard has dominated what has been put in front of him. He hasn't had that many opportunities or a platform in the Champions League for several reasons. He doesn't need that to validate himself as our best big game performer  for me. Especially as these might help win us 2 league titles in 3 years. 

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Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

The problem is that we honestly haven't been that relevant in the Champions League since 2012. It's not like the mid to late 2000's. Hazard has dominated what has been put in front of him. He hasn't had that many opportunities or a platform in the Champions League for several reasons. He doesn't need that to validate himself as our best big game performer  for me. Especially as these might help win us 2 league titles in 3 years. 

He certainly is our best big game performer but I'm not putting him on the same pedestal as Didier until he's much better in the CL. His CL record is quite embarrassing, but hopefully he puts it to bed next season. Conte too. 

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2 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

He certainly is our best big game performer but I'm not putting him on the same pedestal as Didier until he's much better in the CL. His CL record is quite embarrassing, but hopefully he puts it to bed next season. Conte too. 

What exactly is his CL record and how is it embarrassing? His goal scoring record in the Champions league for Chelsea is 1 in 3 games. He's had his moments and Mourinho's tactics negated his impact in the biggest games (of which there have only been very few since he's been here and scored in 2 of them) and/or he was injured. Hardly embarrasing. Stop believing the bullshit opposition fans come up with.

Secondly, I didn't put him on the same pedestal as Drogba. I said they're both the best I've seen in big games, with Drogba obviously being 1 and Hazard being 2. Hazard plays better than Lampard in the big games. Plays better than Zola. Hasselbaink. Whichever legend you want to mention in the last 25 years and I've watched all of them. Besides, there have been several great players in our history who never played in the champions league but were big game players. I'm not sure why you're conflating these two things. 

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3 weeks out and barely fit as well and expected to do everything Really embarrassing. I just laugh when people try to use the CL as a stick to criticize Hazard with. Moreso from CFC fans who actually watched the games and should know better.

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9 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

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3 weeks out and barely fit as well and expected to do everything Really embarrassing. I just laugh when people try to use the CL as a stick to criticize Hazard with. Moreso from CFC fans who actually watched the games and should know better.

Hazard game against PSG at home in 2014/15 was special. Watched that highlights a few times and I'm still amazed by that performance. His away leg game was quite good too. Yet we went out and somehow he has a tag of not performing in the Champions League. 

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2 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said:

Hazard game against PSG at home in 2014/15 was special. Watched that highlights a few times and I'm still amazed by that performance. His away leg game was quite good too. Yet we went out and somehow he has a tag of not performing in the Champions League. 

It's retarded, right? I never understood the criticism. The level he's shown in most CL games (bar last season) has been pretty much what we've seen from him in his CFC career, performance wise.

Yeah, his away leg was good in the 2013/14 season considering he barely touched the ball. Hit the bar with a volley and scored a goal. 

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2 hours ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

What exactly is his CL record and how is it embarrassing? His goal scoring record in the Champions league for Chelsea is 1 in 3 games. He's had his moments and Mourinho's tactics negated his impact in the biggest games (of which there have only been very few since he's been here and scored in 2 of them) and/or he was injured. Hardly embarrasing. Stop believing the bullshit opposition fans come up with.

Secondly, I didn't put him on the same pedestal as Drogba. I said they're both the best I've seen in big games, with Drogba obviously being 1 and Hazard being 2. Hazard plays better than Lampard in the big games. Plays better than Zola. Hasselbaink. Whichever legend you want to mention in the last 25 years and I've watched all of them. Besides, there have been several great players in our history who never played in the champions league but were big game players. I'm not sure why you're conflating these two things. 

Hazard has played in the CL 36 times and only has 5 goals. 3 of those goals are penalties. That's an embarrassing record.

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Just now, The Skipper said:

Hazard has played in the CL 36 times and only has 5 goals. 3 of those goals are penalties. That's an embarrassing record.

How many of those games were at Lille?  More importantly, how many of those games were big games vs Top European teams? I seem to remember Hazard not scoring against Schalke and Galatasaray but still playing very well. We've played PSG and Atletico Madrid and he's scored twice in those games (the only big teams we've faced in that competition since Hazard has been at Chelsea), most of them with no help and having to play left back.

Most importantly, what does that have to do with my comment  about big games, nothing since most of those games haven't been in big games.  Really bizarre argumentation and not befitting of this thread as Eden only deserves praise right now. 

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2 hours ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

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3 weeks out and barely fit as well and expected to do everything Really embarrassing. I just laugh when people try to use the CL as a stick to criticize Hazard with. Moreso from CFC fans who actually watched the games and should know better.

Haha that line-up is embarrassing. :D

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