lucio 5,418 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Who is talking about Messi and Ronaldo?And productivity goes further than goals and assists.They were the ones mentioned at the top of the page. And anyway , we have a far more reasonable wage structure , to city madrid , psg ect. So we aren't going to be giving out 350k or anything. 200k is more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 less productive? messi ronaldo and neymar are miles more productive. the lad needs to stop screwing up these arsenal and man city chances, if he wants a raise. for now he will have to settle for two hundred thousand pounds every 7 days.Lol, if he handed in a transfer request tomorrow all the big guns would be willing the break the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Find it quite funny with this whole criticism like Hazard is not the only player in this club (maybe Thibaut) that you put on sale and ALL the biggest clubs are after him. Let the other clubs deal with his "unproductivity", right ?How would you criticize Hazard if you can't drop him anyway ? He's the sole creative outlet in any sort of the big game, one man attacking force. There's lots of players that are can be discussed and be potentially dropped not Hazard. He was dropped from the game ONCE and it was against Schalke after he forgot his passport at Lille and wasn't at training in time.About his wages, it has little to no sense adding that for normal human being he has no right to complain. Well, Jamal Blackman has no right to complain for a normal person I'm sure even not full-age kids have no right to complain but as curiosity to discuss, if you include his world-class abilities, value to the team, undroppable status, outstanding injury record, enjoyable style of play, awards he's collecting, him being the sole attacking force and creative hope in bigger games and being by far the most potential marketable player in the squad with still young age and potential upside, Hazard with Mino Raila as an agent should get 350k a week and be the best paid player in the league. Essien19 and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Top 5 is a stretch....Top 5 in Epl definitely.(Aguero, silva, yaya, hazard, Sanchez) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Top 5 is a stretch....Top 5 in Epl definitely.(Aguero, silva, yaya, hazard, Sanchez)Hazard at his best is top 8 in the world. But he's not consistent enough to maintain that level or consistently score/assist while the whole team is playing shit like he finally did recently for Belgium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted September 9, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted September 9, 2015 The only thing Hazard has done wrong was not be born ten years earlier, if he came along in the 00s he would have been universally adored and appreciated.Pre Messi/Ronaldo could you imagine anyone critisising a winger who regularly and consistently hits the late teens in the scoring, creates an unreal amount of chances for teammates and often carries his club for not doing enough? Essien19, The Skipper, Mufassir08 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The only thing Hazard has done wrong was not be born ten years earlier, if he came along in the 00s he would have been universally adored and appreciated.Pre Messi/Ronaldo could you imagine anyone critisising a winger who regularly and consistently hits the late teens in the scoring, creates an unreal amount of chances for teammates and often carries his club for not doing enough?eden hazard won POTY for Chelsea and EPL last season.Young POTY the season before that and EPL team of the year every season so far.EDEN is universally adored and appreciated, I have no clue where you guys get this nonsense that Eden isn'tNeither silva nor Aguero won poty and silva only has one EPL team of the season while aguero has 0..... It's complete nonsense to think that hazard is being underappreciated. Hazard scored 19 goals last season, with 6 being pks (6/8)...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 eden hazard won POTY for Chelsea and EPL last season.Young POTY the season before that and EPL team of the year every season so far.EDEN is universally adored and appreciated, I have no clue where you guys get this nonsense that Eden isn'tNeither silva nor Aguero won poty and silva only has one EPL team of the season while aguero has 0..... It's complete nonsense to think that hazard is being underappreciated. Hazard scored 19 goals last season, with 6 being pks (6/8)......Yeah and he probably earned all 8 penalties if that was a dig at him. If you get fouled in the box like he does, that is a skill and he has every right for those penalties to be included as a personal achievement as he earns majority of them. Just imagine if Suarez was the penalty taker at Liverpool. He would of had over 40 league goals and that would have been fully justified, like Hazard's pens because majroity of them he earns due to his great skill on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Yeah and he probably earned all 8 penalties if that was a dig at him. If you get fouled in the box like he does, that is a skill and he has every right for those penalties to be included as a personal achievement as he earns majority of them. Just imagine if Suarez was the penalty taker at Liverpool. He would of had over 40 league goals and that would have been fully justified, like Hazard's pens because majroity of them he earns due to his great skill on the ball.AND?He actually won only half the pks (3/6), not all of them. Also, he scored 7 goals technically from pks if you count the rebound header against CP, so I guess 4/7..Point is that Hazard is well respected by his peers based on individual accolades given to him since he has played professional football...Guys like David Silva and Aguero are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 less productive? messi ronaldo and neymar are miles more productive. the lad needs to stop screwing up these arsenal and man city chances, if he wants a raise. for now he will have to settle for two hundred thousand pounds every 7 days.Can't even imagine what makes you guys think that Neymar is at the same level or even higher than Hazard. Neymar is the most overrated player in this world (Except James Rodriguez of course) . Hazard is a great passer, great dribbler and a team player while Neymar is just a goal poacher nothing more but i guess these players are more recognised nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Can't even imagine what makes you guys think that Neymar is at the same level or even higher than Hazard. Neymar is the most overrated player in this world (Except James Rodriguez of course) . Hazard is a great passer, great dribbler and a team player while Neymar is just a goal poacher nothing more but i guess these players are more recognised nowadays."Neymar has now scored (236) and assisted (108) a combined total of 344 goals in 384 official matches #fcblive [via @champ_ian]" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hazard has better lower body and close control dribble. I can't think of anything else Hazard is better than neymar in (MAYBE PKs?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hazard has better lower body and close control dribble. I can't think of anything else Hazard is better than neymar in (MAYBE PKs?)He's definitely more creative than Neymar as well. Eden creates a lot with his dribbles and can pick out a pass quite well.Everything else is pretty close, apart from finishing. That's where Neymar has the clear upper hand. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 AND?He actually won only half the pks (3/6), not all of them. Also, he scored 7 goals technically from pks if you count the rebound header against CP, so I guess 4/7..Point is that Hazard is well respected by his peers based on individual accolades given to him since he has played professional football...Guys like David Silva and Aguero are not. Well out of the 8 penalties he took, 5 of them he earned himself. Silva and Aguero are respected and admired amongst many. I think most people regard Aguero as the best striker in the league. If both of them stayed fit over the course of the season they would definitely receive individual accolades. That is something Hazard has managed to do. And no top 5 is not a stretch to put Hazard in. But let me guess, you probably are going to look at goals and assists to say why Hazard is not.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 A lot think Aguero is the best 9 in the world (with Suarez). Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 He's definitely more creative than Neymar as well. Eden creates a lot with his dribbles and can pick out a pass quite well.Everything else is pretty close, apart from finishing. That's where Neymar has the clear upper hand.Well out of the 8 penalties he took, 5 of them he earned himself. Silva and Aguero are respected and admired amongst many. I think most people regard Aguero as the best striker in the league. If both of them stayed fit over the course of the season they would definitely receive individual accolades. That is something Hazard has managed to do. And no top 5 is not a stretch to put Hazard in. But let me guess, you probably are going to look at goals and assists to say why Hazard is not....Neymar role is not the same as Hazard. Watch neymar for brazil and hazard for belgium, and tell me who the better "creator" is...... Neymar has terrific vision, however, he's a selfish prick more often than not cause he wants Pele record.TOP 5 is a stretch....Messi, suarez, neymar, cristiano, james, modric, bale, benzema, etc. Thats only the big 2 in Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 "Neymar has now scored (236) and assisted (108) a combined total of 344 goals in 384 official matches #fcblive [via @champ_ian]"Maybe you didn't read my comment, i said he was a goal poacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Maybe you didn't read my comment, i said he was a goal poacherneymar is more than a goal poacher...However, you seem to rate mr ramsey aka I do nothing all game and score a random goal over Jack Wilshere, a terrific balance CM... The irony and biased mindset in your statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 neymar is more than a goal poacher...However, you seem to rate mr ramsey aka I do nothing all game and score a random goal over Jack Wilshere, a terrific balance CM... The irony and biased mindset in your statement. And maybe Mr. Ramsey scores terrific goals and also good at passing , while Neymar just uses his speed to get into a good position to be set up by Messi to score a Tap in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 neymar is more than a goal poacher...However, you seem to rate mr ramsey aka I do nothing all game and score a random goal over Jack Wilshere, a terrific balance CM... The irony and biased mindset in your statement. Ramsey is better than Wilshere. He is playing out wide but he needs to play CM. He is one of the best athletic midfielders around. Good balance, excellent footwork, agility and all round play. cfcs most wanted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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