🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[The Skipper 20,609]

Hope Eden makes Messi-like demands about wanting the club to sign some top players in his contract talks. 

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Assist Eden, Bosnia-Belgium 0-1

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

 

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[Hamilton 2,120]

Genius!

[Hamilton 2,120]

Scored the 1-0 against Cyprus

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And Thorgan scored the 2-0

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Scored the 3-0

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[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

 

Don't mean to be critical but when you see him score that first goal, you just wonder why he doesn't it more often. Going by his unselfish tendency, you would think he would have passed to the player on the right but no, he went on to shoot and score.

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7 hours ago, Jason said:

Don't mean to be critical but when you see him score that first goal, you just wonder why he doesn't it more often. Going by his unselfish tendency, you would think he would have passed to the player on the right but no, he went on to shoot and score.

For the past five seasons Mourinho and Conte have urged him to develop that side in his game and I think we are finally starting to see it in his game more and more. For instance, against Atletico he seemed really keen on scoring and far more selfish that usually. 

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

7 hours ago, Jason said:

Don't mean to be critical but when you see him score that first goal, you just wonder why he doesn't it more often. Going by his unselfish tendency, you would think he would have passed to the player on the right but no, he went on to shoot and score.

Understand what you mean but i think this has already been discussed here several times over the last few years. If he doesn't have clear angle at goal he doesn't take the shot. He simply doesn't take low percentage shots.

 

I'm sure if he took more shots he'd score more . 

Last season

Hazard shot 77 times , 36 appearances, 16 goals 

Ronaldo shot 162 times ,29 appearances , 25 goals

Messi shot 165 times, 36 appearances , 34 goals

If Hazard took twice the shots he's taken i'm sure he would be getting closer to 25 goals.

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1 hour ago, Belgiannutt said:

Understand what you mean but i think this has already been discussed here several times over the last few years. If he doesn't have clear angle at goal he doesn't take the shot. He simply doesn't take low percentage shots.

 

I'm sure if he took more shots he'd score more . 

Last season

Hazard shot 77 times , 36 appearances, 16 goals 

Ronaldo shot 162 times ,29 appearances , 25 goals

Messi shot 165 times, 36 appearances , 34 goals

If Hazard took twice the shots he's taken i'm sure he would be getting closer to 25 goals.

Hazard simply isnt as clinical as Messi or CR, but at the very least he would definately score more in spain tho. 

Suarez is nice example, he scored 10 more goals in single season compared to his best tally in PL. Ronaldo is obvious another example if you compare his PL and Laliga outputs. 

But again, both Surez and Cr scored 30 in PL, compared to Eden 17, I guess he would be around 20 goals in laliga at least.

But Im still not sure why the hell people want Eden to score more. Its not what defines a quality player. CR and Messi completely fucked up the balon dor with all those goals, sure they are fantastic, but they are exception, not rule. Eden is magnificent dribbler, playmaker, good passer and almost never loses the ball. All those are as important as goals in games. Its what makes team tick. Then you have Kantes. Those players do the job so CRs and Messis can even score the goals. Without such players no team would win anything. 

Yet the focus is only on goals and goalscorers everytime. Heck even Ramos is ranked as one of best defenders because he scores crucial goals lol. Glad its slowly changing with Neuer being recognized, with Kante being rewarded etc

I understand media trying to blow the shit out of everything and praise trademark players ala CR to god status, but in forums like this with people who actualy watch football every weekend, why some still focus and talk about Eden needing to score more etc. Football is bigger than just those goals and every fan should know it. 

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6 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

Understand what you mean but i think this has already been discussed here several times over the last few years. If he doesn't have clear angle at goal he doesn't take the shot. He simply doesn't take low percentage shots.

Nobody is asking him to do a Sturridge and start shooting from ridiculous position/angle or when the chance isn't on. It's just how many times have we seen him get into a good position to score but opt to pass it instead? It's unlikely he'll ever reach the goal scoring numbers of Messi, Ronaldo etc but do feel he can score more goals than he usually does. He has always scored around 15 goals per season. Should be aiming at getting 20-25 at least.

[El P. 1,354]

8 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Yet the focus is only on goals and goalscorers everytime. Heck even Ramos is ranked as one of best defenders because he scores crucial goals lol. Glad its slowly changing with Neuer being recognized, with Kante being rewarded etc

Thank you! Thinking that Ramos is a good defender is REALLY shallow understanding of football.

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12 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Hazard simply isnt as clinical as Messi or CR, but at the very least he would definately score more in spain tho. 

Suarez is nice example, he scored 10 more goals in single season compared to his best tally in PL. Ronaldo is obvious another example if you compare his PL and Laliga outputs. 

But again, both Surez and Cr scored 30 in PL, compared to Eden 17, I guess he would be around 20 goals in laliga at least.

But Im still not sure why the hell people want Eden to score more. Its not what defines a quality player. CR and Messi completely fucked up the balon dor with all those goals, sure they are fantastic, but they are exception, not rule. Eden is magnificent dribbler, playmaker, good passer and almost never loses the ball. All those are as important as goals in games. Its what makes team tick. Then you have Kantes. Those players do the job so CRs and Messis can even score the goals. Without such players no team would win anything. 

Yet the focus is only on goals and goalscorers everytime. Heck even Ramos is ranked as one of best defenders because he scores crucial goals lol. Glad its slowly changing with Neuer being recognized, with Kante being rewarded etc

I understand media trying to blow the shit out of everything and praise trademark players ala CR to god status, but in forums like this with people who actualy watch football every weekend, why some still focus and talk about Eden needing to score more etc. Football is bigger than just those goals and every fan should know it. 

True that Messi and Ronaldo are more clinical but how many shots you take will inevitably have an effect on  how many goals you score. 

I agree with you about scoring more in la liga.

I also agree that goals shouldn't matter as much as they do nowadays but unfortunately that's how punditry and the majority of footballfans think. 

Goals get you a lot more praise then good performances do. 

I think we talk about Eden needing to score more because we all know how good he really is and his 16 goals don't do justice to the abillity he has.

6 hours ago, Jason said:

Nobody is asking him to do a Sturridge and start shooting from ridiculous position/angle or when the chance isn't on. It's just how many times have we seen him get into a good position to score but opt to pass it instead? It's unlikely he'll ever reach the goal scoring numbers of Messi, Ronaldo etc but do feel he can score more goals than he usually does. He has always scored around 15 goals per season. Should be aiming at getting 20-25 at least.

I agree with that but even if he's in a good position if there's a lot of players in the path of him and the goal he usually won't shoot because there's a high chance of it getting blocked.

 

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1 minute ago, Belgiannutt said:

I agree with that but even if he's in a good position if there's a lot of players in the path of him and the goal he usually won't shoot because there's a high chance of it getting blocked.

Nobody is asking to shoot if there's a whole 'bus' in front of him...more in those situations where there's space and angle to do so. Plus, if you don't shoot, you're never going to score and sometimes you never know if someone does put a block in, it may end up deflecting in etc.

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

Nobody is asking to shoot if there's a whole 'bus' in front of him...more in those situations where there's space and angle to do so. Plus, if you don't shoot, you're never going to score and sometimes you never know if someone does put a block in, it may end up deflecting in etc.

Or the Gk might be asleep  Or he may pull a tim howard 

From a supporter point of view, I'm fairly certainly Hazard cannot possibly reach Messi/Ronado's level. He has neither the drive nor the raw talent IMO. Which is ABSOLUTELY fine! As a chelsea supporter, I don't think we could ask for a better player to be honest - and not many are better (much less much better). I say give him a 300k/w and tie him up for life...

From a personal point of view, if Hazard has his own ambitions to become a top3 and challenge CR, Messi like Neymar is doing, then he does need to improve his finishing. I don't believe he can improve it that much tbh. I really really cannot imagine a move to Real or Barca helping him to improve his game given his characteristics as a player. 

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Damn what a pussy.

[Jase 43,479]

Where was Hazard in the last 10-15 minutes?