🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[DYC. 7,542]

Hazard can be a fantastic player when fit, but Neymar is better in almost every aspect of the game, imo.

Aside from scoring, neymar technique is superior esp first touch as he often controls the football from a long ball in pace without missing a beat.

This is very rare and only seen the likes of Romario and fat Ronaldo do it consistently (aside from messi). Even slim Ronaldo doesn't do that very often.

Hazard on the other hand takes a little longer to control and turn - many a times he comes to a complete stop.

Some will say it's style but I'd disagree. Speed of execution is key especially in Moderns game.

You mean like this? I've never seen him struggle with those kind of balls or miss a beat like you put it.

I disagree with the part on Neymar's first touch. I've seen the ball escape from him quite a few times. I don't think of him when I think of players with an extraordinary touch and ball control. But he is getting better and better.

Cristiano's Ronaldo touch is pretty much flawless. This was only recently against Sevilla:

See 00:41. He does that all the time really.

[robsblubot 3,595]

You mean like this? I've never seen him struggle with those kind of balls or miss a beat like you put it.

I disagree with the part on Neymar's first touch. I've seen the ball escape from him quite a few times. I don't think of him when I think of players with an extraordinary touch and ball control. But he is getting better and better.

Cristiano's Ronaldo touch is pretty much flawless. This was only recently against Sevilla:

See 00:41. He does that all the time really.

Agree to disagree on both counts ... I said consistently. All players from time to time mishandle the football, just some less than others.

Hazard score few goals for a guy whose first touch is as good as you claim it is. His numbers just don't add up with it is said of him around here.

I get to watch Ronaldo in Derby or finals and not impressed by his technique - first touch included. He's quite effective because of his atlethicism and his good (not great ) technique combined.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Agree to disagree on both counts ... I said consistently. All players from time to time mishandle the football, just some less than others.

Hazard score few goals for a guy whose first touch is as good as you claim it is. His numbers just don't add up with it is said of him around here.

I get to watch Ronaldo in Derby or finals and not impressed by his technique - first touch included. He's quite effective because of his atlethicism and his good (not great ) technique combined.

Having an amazing first touch really doesn't correlate to goal scoring.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Having an amazing first touch really doesn't correlate to goal scoring.

It correlates to everything including scoring... It doesn't determine but def correlates.

The first touch can be the first dribble, to avoid the tackle and get you open to score. Romario was all about his first touch which was also often his final touch when he applied the finish.

First touch at the very least gives you more time to think and act. Esp today when you have so little time on the ball especially up front. See? Forarders have even less time on the ball - tight spaces - which makes the first touch even more important.

@DYC, just watched ronaldo first touch from that long ball in the beginning of the game (on bein sports) and don't get me wrong it was good, but he needed a second one to adjust for the shot. Had the first touch been enough and he might have taken the shot at the time of the second touch - which might've made the difference.

[DYC. 7,542]

Agree to disagree on both counts ... I said consistently. All players from time to time mishandle the football, just some less than others.

Hazard score few goals for a guy whose first touch is as good as you claim it is. His numbers just don't add up with it is said of him around here.

I get to watch Ronaldo in Derby or finals and not impressed by his technique - first touch included. He's quite effective because of his atlethicism and his good (not great ) technique combined.

That goes without saying. But again, Neymar and someone like Messi aren't in the same bracket imo.

I don't know how good I claim his touch to be but Hazard is the furthest thing from trigger happy. He's not a goal-scorer. He'll never pass up the opportunity to find someone in a 'better position to score'. We've seen him go to great lengths to achieve that, he's almost as bad as Ozil in this. And his shooting technique is nothing to write home about. That hurts him more. Neymar's first goal against Villarreal was beautiful strike imo but he made it look easy.

Fair enough. On that touch in the vid, I agree. I only brought up that moment because it was fresh in my memory. He usually does do better than he did there but he does lack that true genius when making snapshot decisions (in everything he does really) and that's what's holds him back from being a bigger legend besides the goal-scoring. There's a difference in possessing skill and how you use that skill. For me anyway.

What a comparison btw. Bringing up Romario. That's like saying a sprinter that came 0.10 sec behind Bolt isn't quite fast, good but not great. Might as well bring Maradona into the mix.

I do like what you said about the first touch. You don't hear the importance of it brought up enough. It truly is the key to everything.

[Atholy 1,293]

Agreeing or not agreeing...

shouldn't we be talking about Hazard, Fabregas, Pedro & Costa instead of Neymar, Ronaldo & Messi??

Who cares if Neymar is 1% or 10% 'better' than Hazard... How do you measure these things by the way?

Neymar plays for Barcelona, Messi plays for Barcelona and Ronaldo plays for Real Madrid. But all of the above players are playing for OUR team!

Sometimes I feel like in the Roman empire... everybody acts a little spoilt. Feeling we could go and buy players if we want to.

We already have a billon $$ squad! And although underperforming at the moment... we have A LOT of quality and technique to enjoy in a Blue shirt!!

ps: I was in Barcelona two weeks ago when Barca played Eibar. They won 3-1 and Neymar played a huge rol in the victory. His style is VERY familiar to the one of Hazard if you see him live.

Amazing controls, quick anticipation and great acceleration! But you know how many times he did go to ground against this small team as eibar? Maybe 8-10 times... They say it's his style of playing...

But is sooooo annoying. You just feel pity for him sometimes... The amazing player he is, he should really stop falling all the time and faking those dives.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Daily mail reporting he might be called as a witness to the eva trial. He was the player in the middle of it so it would be natural.

[guddy6969 201]

EXCLUSIVE: PSG join Real Madrid in £80m fight to sign Hazard from Chelsea

Daily mail... Yawn !

[the wes 7,212]

Paris St-Germain and Real Madrid are interested in 24-year-old Chelsea midfielder Eden Hazard, who could cost £80m. (Daily Mail)

[zolayes 14,489]

Paris St-Germain and Real Madrid are interested in 24-year-old Chelsea midfielder Eden Hazard, who could cost £80m. (Daily Mail)

If Jose stays we might as well sell Hazard , Baker RlC Boga and enjoy being the New STOKE

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Never realized he and Oscar are the same age.

Oscar always seemed so much younger...

[DYC. 7,542]

Zidane praises Hazard part 376:

"The best player in the world, bar the monsters Messi and Ronaldo? Then I remain a fan of Hazard. Of all the Red Devils, he is the one that gives me the most pleasure when I see Belgium play. He has a form dip? Well, he has six months to recover his best level. It's not worrying, it is part of a career. He should just accept that it's not going so well at the moment. But I'm not worried about Eden. He will be ready for Euro 2016. Whether I'd like him to see him at Real Madrid? That's a question you should ask other people. I adore him, period ."

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/cnt/dmf20151112_01967304

(Article's in Dutch)

[Muzchap 8,966]

Zidane praises Hazard part 376:

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/cnt/dmf20151112_01967304

(Article's in Dutch)

Exactly class is permanent form is temporary

I do wish we would play more expansive football with him though...

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

Brilliant game by Hazard. Can't tell who is the most talented: Hazard, De Bruyne or Carrasco? Sick to have 3 players of that order in one national team

[Weckerz 3,781]

Brilliant game by Hazard. Can't tell who is the most talented: Hazard, De Bruyne or Carrasco? Sick to have 3 players of that order in one national team

He was rather poor, slows down too many attacks. Regaining form but still hesitant to take people on. KDB equally poor for his standards, even though he gets a goal and assist. Carrasco was brilliant, continuing his Atleti form.

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

All 3 of them played excellent, your a bit too harsh now on De Bruyne and Hazard.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

First half was poor for everyone, mostly because of Cavanda who was either not ready for this level of play or far too nervous. we were playing with 10 guys. Second half was great. Hazard was enjoying himself. He played a good game for me. Too many players still don't get him though. Carrasco is great as well, really strengthening the squad. Bye bye Mirallas/Chadli. This guy is 2 leagues ahead of you.

[mediator 2,026]

Was @ the game, the atmosphere was great

[lucio 5,418]

i didn't know this carrasco guy , was Belgian , and also good. Another brilliant player then , along with Michy.B , you could win this tournament, only thing holding you back seems to be the coach. (some say he isn't that great)

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

i didn't know this carrasco guy , was Belgian , and also good. Another brilliant player then , along with Michy.B , you could win this tournament, only thing holding you back seems to be the coach. (some say he isn't that great)

In tactics, he is one of the worst coaches I have seen in my life. Just puts the eleven players at the field that he likes the most and let them do some random things. We struggle to create chances because of his strange tactics. Against Argentina at the WC we came behind in the 8th minute and we created zero chances for the rest of the game because the coach didn't want us to create chances, at least his tactic wasn't suited to create any chance at all.