LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Other then them two seasons he aint that great imo. dont get me wrong he is top player, but not wear near in the same league Lewandoski, and co I guess you can put him in the second tier of top class strikers though. You've got Lewandowski, Aguero probably Suarez and then the next tier which probably is spearheaded by Diego Costa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,100 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He needs to start turning up. Been a shadow of himself this season so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MefiX19 1,092 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Sanchez- hat-trick and a goal in CLAguero- FIVE goals!!!Hazard- 1 or 2 assists.He really needs to step up TODAY, not tomorow to be consideret as best player in the league! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 One thing I don't understand with Eden is his lack of instinct to go directly to goal. Everytime he's received the ball in an attacking position his first decision is to drift out to the left hand side and try and cut in. He'd get so many more goals if he went directly at goal as opposed to drifting wide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 One thing I don't understand with Eden is his lack of instinct to go directly to goal. Everytime he's received the ball in an attacking position his first decision is to drift out to the left hand side and try and cut in. He'd get so many more goals if he went directly at goal as opposed to drifting wideHe always slows the game down for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He always slows the game down for some reasonYeah he's a stop-start player, which gives opposition time to get back. But he's so good at dribbling around them that it's not always an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Yeah he's a stop-start player, which gives opposition time to get back. But he's so good at dribbling around them that it's not always an issue.I just dont see the point of doing it, its wasting good oppertunities most of the time Sir Mikel OBE and Peace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I watched Scholes his whole career and his last few years at United he was awful, you do realise you said Scholes would walk into any team in europe, i can tell you dont know much about football with that statement. But he could imo, guy was fucking class. But you think Hazard is playing world class atm so shows how much you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 So come on then who still thinks he should be starting each week then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,230 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 So come on then who still thinks he should be starting each week then? He should be but under a new coach. Pedro did not do anything. Oscar was awful once again. Willian was decent. We dropped him in midweek and apart from Willian the other attacking mids did not conver themselves in glory. Hazard is playing poor but the problems lie deeper than him. borriske and herzogian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He should be but under a new coach. Pedro did not do anything. Oscar was awful once again. Willian was decent. We dropped him in midweek and apart from Willian the other attacking mids did not conver themselves in glory. Hazard is playing poor but the problems lie deeper than him.Don't understand.Willian had a good free kick goal and that's it.... Hazard playing poorly, yet it is Oscar's fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He should be but under a new coach. Pedro did not do anything. Oscar was awful once again. Willian was decent. We dropped him in midweek and apart from Willian the other attacking mids did not conver themselves in glory. Hazard is playing poor but the problems lie deeper than him.I only reason im digging him out the most is because he always gets defended by the fans because he is meant to be this world beater, but he is so far from that its not even funny anymore. If he is as good as he is made out to be he should be dragging this team to play better, i go back to Ronaldo when real look poor he always steps up and wins games on his own.Hazard along with Ivanovic for me have been the two worst players from start up to today, and the fact them two keep getting picked is mind blowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 everyone in the attack is poor, this is down to Mourinho. Simple herzogian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He can't even dribble past anyone anymore. Like I said I still think this guy is one of the poorest 'big name' player for us for a long time purely because of his mentality not his ability, he can throw eggs at my face by ending this season with 20 goals/assists combined but somehow unless a managerial change happen I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 But he could imo, guy was fucking class. But you think Hazard is playing world class atm so shows how much you knowI cant believe i am about to ask this.Who Barcelona drop for a 40 year old Paul Scholes? who would Bayern drop for a 40 year old Paul Scholes? who would Real Madrid drop for a 40 year old Paul scholes?you are seriously delusional if you think Scholes could even get into any PL team at age 40, especially when you see how bad he was in the last few years of his career!and please show me where i said Hazard was playing world class atm??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I cant believe i am about to ask this.Who Barcelona drop for a 40 year old Paul Scholes? who would Bayern drop for a 40 year old Paul Scholes? who would Real Madrid drop for a 40 year old Paul scholes?you are seriously delusional if you think Scholes could even get into any PL team at age 40, especially when you see how bad he was in the last few years of his career!and please show me where i said Hazard was playing world class atm???Alright maybe i should have worded it with 'prime' before.So now your saying you have not been sticking up for Hazard? He has been one of our worst players this season. Surely you can see that? Guy needs to be dropped and dropped hard. I cannot be arsed to go over loads of pages tbh.And he will never reach his full ability under Jose. Sad but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Alright maybe i should have worded it with 'prime' before.So now your saying you have not been sticking up for Hazard? He has been one of our worst players this season. Surely you can see that? Guy needs to be dropped and dropped hard. I cannot be arsed to go over loads of pages tbh.And he will never reach his full ability under Jose. Sad but true i would say Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Matic, Fabregas, Pedro, Oscar and Remy have all been worse then HazardHe obviously needs to play better, but there is not much more he can do when everyone around him are also playing bad. herzogian and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 i would say Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Matic, Fabregas, Pedro, Oscar and Remy have all been worse then HazardHe obviously needs to play better, but there is not much more he can do when everyone around him are also playing bad.See for me thats more excuses, yeah those player you said have been bad.But like ive said before and the reason i dig him more then others is, He is meant to be a 'world beater' 'Superstar' 'World class' 'In the same league as messi and ronaldo'. And yeah he has got the ability to become all that, but for him to do that he needs to rise up above an under preforming team and shine and make shit happen or do it himself. And he dont all I've seen him do this season is get the ball fanny about with it and then pass it back to dave or inside to Fabregas.And like we all know Ronaldo and Messi can lift their teams or do it on their own.I just think under Jose he will never be the player he can be because we all know he dont like coming back to help and that is starting to show again robsblubot and MefiX19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 See for me thats more excuses, yeah those player you said have been bad.But like ive said before and the reason i dig him more then others is, He is meant to be a 'world beater' 'Superstar' 'World class' 'In the same league as messi and ronaldo'. And yeah he has got the ability to become all that, but for him to do that he needs to rise up above an under preforming team and shine and make shit happen or do it himself. And he dont all I've seen him do this season is get the ball fanny about with it and then pass it back to dave or inside to Fabregas.And like we all know Ronaldo and Messi can lift their teams or do it on their own.I just think under Jose he will never be the player he can be because we all know he dont like coming back to help and that is starting to show againIt may not be down to manager or style of play and more to lack of dedication from him or even physical limitations.Genetics determine the absolute limit... But it's up to him to reach it and sometimes the players don't want go pay the sometimes very high price of absolute dedication. That's what it takes to be Ronaldo and messi.Just to be clear, I am not talking exclusively about what he does on the pitch but also and especially off of it.@poster belowNo that's not a fact. That's your opinion. The facts are his quantitatively small contribution today and in the games before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 See for me thats more excuses, yeah those player you said have been bad.But like ive said before and the reason i dig him more then others is, He is meant to be a 'world beater' 'Superstar' 'World class' 'In the same league as messi and ronaldo'. And yeah he has got the ability to become all that, but for him to do that he needs to rise up above an under preforming team and shine and make shit happen or do it himself. And he dont all I've seen him do this season is get the ball fanny about with it and then pass it back to dave or inside to Fabregas.And like we all know Ronaldo and Messi can lift their teams or do it on their own.I just think under Jose he will never be the player he can be because we all know he dont like coming back to help and that is starting to show again no its not excuses its fact!there are 8 or 9 players not just underperforming in our team but are in horrible form and low on confidence, even Messi and Ronaldo would look bad in the same situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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