Chelsea - Barcelona. Big rivalry?

[Spike 12,049]

DO people not undestand English?

http://dictionary.reference.com/

Rival

noun

1.

a person who is competing for the same object or goal as another, or who tries to equal or outdo another; competitor.

2.

a person or thing that is in a position to dispute another's preeminence or superiority: a stadium without a rival.

Competition

noun

1.

the act of competing; rivalry for supremacy, a prize, etc.: The competition between the two teams was bitter.

2.

a contest for some prize, honor, or advantage: Both girls entered the competition.

3.

the rivalry offered by a competitor: The small merchant gets powerful competition from the chain stores.

4.

a competitor or competitors: What is your competition offering?

5.

Sociology . rivalry between two or more persons or groups for an object desired in common, usually resulting in a victor and a loser but not necessarily involving the destruction of the latter.

Chelsea and Barcelona are rivals becuase they compete against eachother.

Barcelona and Celta Vigo are rivals because they compete.

Chelsea and Aston Villa are rivals becuase they compete.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

The day they chuck pigs heads at Romeu, Deco and Belletti is the day I will agree.

This, we are rivals, but I think the question is asked wrongly.

It should be more like are Cheslea vs Barcelona a classic?

Are Chelsea vs Barcelona what would be a Liverpool vs United?

Hecks no!

Rivals we are, but not in that category to be consider classic, or the magnitude of a Liverpool vs United.

Xavi's recent comments have caused me to lose a lot of respect for him. He is a sore loser and all round prick it seems.

What you talking about?

Xavi is right!

Even Torres said something similar.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Xavi says Madrid are sore losers when it's only recently Spain's performances have declined due to Barcelona losing. He continues to harp on about his team even though we won the CL. He says the world's greatest Manager Jose Mourinho won't go down in history but Guardiola will.

......Sounds like a sore loser and a prick to me.

[Spike 12,049]

Xavi says Madrid are sore losers when it's only recently Spain's performances have declined due to Barcelona losing. He continues to harp on about his team even though we won the CL. He says the world's greatest Manager Jose Mourinho won't go down in history but Guardiola will.

......Sounds like a sore loser and a prick to me.

And he has only been saying shit like that for the last year or two, he didn't have the nerve before.

"Cesc is suffering." -

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Xavi says Madrid are sore losers when it's only recently Spain's performances have declined due to Barcelona losing. He continues to harp on about his team even though we won the CL. He says the world's greatest Manager Jose Mourinho won't go down in history but Guardiola will.

......Sounds like a sore loser and a prick to me.

Xavi said:

He has revolutionised football

Is he right or wrong?

Is Barcelona the benchmark or Mourinho?

As far as I can tell we all want to beat Barcelona and play as good as them.

[Spike 12,049]

Xavi basically tapped up Fabregas in public.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Xavi has said a lot more things than that.

But the main idea of what he said, is that:

A. Pep revolutionized the world with what he did at Barcelona.

and

B. Barcelona still remain the benchmark despite Chelsea winning the CL.

Nothing wrong with that to me.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Xavi basically tapped up Fabregas in public.

Well what does that got to do with what we where discussing?

[Blue Armour 4,436]

I don't understand why people want to glorify our club as the antithesis to Barcelona.

Its not as if we were always playing this way against them. We've played good attacking football in the past and have won. The fact is, over the last decade, thanks to the influence of a lot of managers and an experienced core of players, we have become tactically superior to most teams in Europe, and have thus managed to adapt to any kind of opposition, with any sort of first 11. Against this Pep Guardiola team we had no choice but to play in a withdrawn manner.

[Spike 12,049]

Well what does that got to do with what we where discussing?

That Barcelona are just as evil as every other club.

But the main idea of what he said, is that:

A. Pep revolutionized the world with what he did at Barcelona.

and

B. Barcelona still remain the benchmark despite Chelsea winning the CL.

Nothing wrong with that to me.

Nobody is saying that is wrong. Nobody. Not a single soul has said that is wrong. But Xavi has believe it or not said other things in the past! Things that do indeed piss people off.

[Blue Armour 4,436]

But the main idea of what he said, is that:

A. Pep revolutionized the world with what he did at Barcelona.

and

B. Barcelona still remain the benchmark despite Chelsea winning the CL.

Nothing wrong with that to me.

Pep Guardiola is a great coach and will go down in history, but that comment from Xavi regarding Mourinho does sound arrogant. There was no need for it.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Pep Guardiola is a great coach and will go down in history, but that comment from Xavi regarding Mourinho does sound arrogant. There was no need for it.

Arrogant, yes. But then we all like arrogant people like Mourinho and SAF, right?

That Barcelona are just as evil as every other club.

Nobody is saying that is wrong. Nobody. Not a single soul has said that is wrong. But Xavi has believe it or not said other things in the past! Things that do indeed piss people off.

Meh if I forgive Mourinho for some of his stupidity...like a finger to Tito eyes, I can surely look past this and forgive Xavi.

[Spike 12,049]

Arrogant, yes. But then we all like arrogant people like Mourinho and SAF, right?

Meh if I forgive Mourinho for some of his stupidity...like a finger to Tito eyes, I can surely look past this and forgive Xavi.

Mourinho is at the least a very funny and charming man unlike SAF and Xavi.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Mourinho is at the least a very funny and charming man unlike SAF and Xavi.

So just because he is funny I am not going to hold a double standard.

I respect all 3 men.

And they all say stupid stuff, but I forgive them all.

[Spike 12,049]

So just because he is funny I am not going to hold a double standard.

I respect all 3 men.

And they all say stupid stuff, but I forgive them all.

It's not really a double standard for me. I like Mourinho because he is funny, I dislike the other two because they aren't. It has nothing to with arrogance.