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World class players don't come cheap and IMO 38m is a fair deal.

What makes Hulk a "world-class" player? I hate the term because it's so subjective, but you simply can't call a player world class based on 2 very good years in the Portuguese league and nothing else. He's had minimal success in the UCL and with Brazil. Is Oscar Cardoza a world class player? He's had more success in Portugal, in Europe, and for his country than Hulk has. Now, Hulk has the skills to go to a better league and be a world class player, but he's not there yet.

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What makes Hulk a "world-class" player? I hate the term because it's so subjective, but you simply can't call a player world class based on 2 very good years in the Portuguese league and nothing else. He's had minimal success in the UCL and with Brazil. Is Oscar Cardoza a world class player? He's had more success in Portugal, in Europe, and for his country than Hulk has. Now, Hulk has the skills to go to a better league and be a world class player, but he's not there yet.

I totally agree.

Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Ozil and Ronaldo are the only world class players right now imo. They're are players who are good but them 5 are on another level. Hazard will be there soon, Hulk could too, if he adapts to the PL and replicates his success in the worlds best league!

Also years ago Torres would of been on that world class list because simply he was untouchable as a striker, before Messi switched a CF. Maybe even Zlatan Ibrahimovic too? Was unreal for Inter and Juventus.

Still Hulk would be an amazing signing for us as we don't have great wingers now and tbh if Mata and Hazard play I see them interchanging and swapping positions so none of them will be playing as a winger for the full 90 minutes.

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I totally agree.

Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Ozil and Ronaldo are the only world class players right now imo. They're are players who are good but them 5 are on another level. Hazard will be there soon, Hulk could too, if he adapts to the PL and replicates his success in the worlds best league!

Also years ago Torres would of been on that world class list because simply he was untouchable as a striker, before Messi switched a CF. Maybe even Zlatan Ibrahimovic too? Was unreal for Inter and Juventus.

Still Hulk would be an amazing signing for us as we don't have great wingers now and tbh if Mata and Hazard play I see them interchanging and swapping positions so none of them will be playing as a winger for the full 90 minutes.

I can't believe Drogba is not on your list. Well, Didi is universe class.

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Cristiano Ronaldo, he is basically the complete player.

From the ones we can buy, Hulk is just special.

To be that fast at such bulky body...no one else is. Besides he is fantastic footballer, I started watching him when Lopez and Lucho were still at Porto, I want him to come to Chelsea, trust me he is worth those 35mio. Prices have gone up nowdays, Caroll, Downing, Ibra, Robinho, Ibra are good exapmples.

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He is world class.

Name me one player so strong and fast as Hulk?

First of all, Hulk's name is misleading. He's not this bullish physical player the way Drogba is. Hulk is listed at 5'11, 150 LBs. Drogba is 6' 2'', 185. Hulk is not going to out-muscle Premier League defenders who are just much bigger. He is not really an inside player anyway. He liked to come in from the right on his left foot and shoot not play with his back to the goal. What Hulk is, is actually a typical Brazilian skill/moves kind of player with the added benefit of a cannon for a left foot. Secondly, who are you comparing Hulk to? Portuguese league defenders? Hulk definitely has speed, but among the fastest in the world? I doubt anyone would claim that. Ramires is certainly faster and Sturridge and Torres might be as well. Hulk has excellent skills, but there are tons of players with fabulous skills who can't put it together as top footballers and some top footballers who manage to succeed without the greatest skills.

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From the ones we can buy, Hulk is just special.

To be that fast at such bulky body...no one else is. Besides he is fantastic footballer, I started watching him when Lopez and Lucho were still at Porto, I want him to come to Chelsea, trust me he is worth those 35mio. Prices have gone up nowdays, Caroll, Downing, Ibra, Robinho, Ibra are good exapmples.

Ibra and Robinho were worth 30 million though (still can't believe how good Robinho was to start off with for City then how he faded was mental), Hulk convinces me of someone who could be an amazing addition its just Porto are being arsewipes and wanting 38 million for him. Muniain could be a better long term option as he is young and if he doesn't adapt straight away he wont end up wasting money for someone who is more or less in their prime. Plus his release clause is what 30 million? Fuck letting Real/Barca getting him.

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First of all, Hulk's name is misleading. He's not this bullish physical player the way Drogba is. Hulk is listed at 5'11, 150 LBs. Drogba is 6' 2'', 185. Hulk is not going to out-muscle Premier League defenders who are just much bigger. He is not really an inside player anyway. He liked to come in from the right on his left foot and shoot not play with his back to the goal. What Hulk is, is actually a typical Brazilian skill/moves kind of player with the added benefit of a cannon for a left foot. Secondly, who are you comparing Hulk to? Portuguese league defenders? Hulk definitely has speed, but among the fastest in the world? I doubt anyone would claim that. Ramires is certainly faster and Sturridge and Torres might be as well. Hulk has excellent skills, but there are tons of players with fabulous skills who can't put it together as top footballers and some top footballers who manage to succeed without the greatest skills.

I'd agree with you except for the physical player part, he may not be the biggest in terms of height, but your not gonna see many players in the league bully Hulk. His power is immense

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Ibra and Robinho were worth 30 million though (still can't believe how good Robinho was to start off with for City then how he faded was mental), Hulk convinces me of someone who could be an amazing addition its just Porto are being arsewipes and wanting 38 million for him. Muniain could be a better long term option as he is young and if he doesn't adapt straight away he wont end up wasting money for someone who is more or less in their prime. Plus his release clause is what 30 million? Fuck letting Real/Barca getting him.

We need class winger (not some young talent, we have Hazard), Hulk is class winger. Every class winger is around 30-40 mio (even Bilbao wants 30 for Muniain) End of story.

If Hulk is not right for you or anyone else, no one will be. 25 is not old, he has creativity, team work (assists), goals, speed. strenght, aerial ability, long shots, short/long FKs. He likes to join Chelsea, is worker and can decide match.

Some players are made to play in club better than at int level, england players are fine example. Epl suits Hulk very well, if Mata can outplay defenders, Hulk will do it with ease.

Nowdays, ball control and speed are very important and Hulk is good at that. Plus we play counters and I can see Hulk easier to escape defenders than Lavezzi or Muniain.

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I'd agree with you except for the physical player part, he may not be the biggest in terms of height, but your not gonna see many players in the league bully Hulk. His power is immense

I disagree. I think he can outmuscle the LB and wingers but if he tries to go up against central defenders, they will often outweigh him by 30-40 pounds in the Premiership.

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I disagree. I think he can outmuscle the LB and wingers but if he tries to go up against central defenders, they will often outweigh him by 30-40 pounds in the Premiership.

Aguero...

he isnt bulky, but he can still outplay everyone in Epl...strange some Hulk wouldnt be able to...They are both same height though...

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Why are people arguing about "world class"? What does the term even mean???

Personally I hope we get Hulk, he's exactly what we need. Yes he might be overpriced, but frankly, I don't really care. :P

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