David Luiz

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

8 minutes ago, DDA said:

The abuse Luiz recieved from the pundits last night was nothing short of disgracefull. Especially after the game he had. Souness was still bashing him after the game and Henry was sitting there looking rather akward to say the least. It's clearly obvious that Graham doesn't like him for whatever reasons other than his preious footballing displays. Then Jamie went on to say he wasn't a Conte signing, which may be the case. Have they not taken into consideration that we are held to ransom everytime we enter the narket for a defender!! I thought Luiz was a decent buy. He isn't the best defender in the world but a huge upgrade from Cahill and the tired legs of a Legend in JT. Luiiz is a great distributor of the ball and last night looked asif he get's the fact that no nonsense is better than fancy shit when defending. I pray that he proves these highly opinionated pundits wrong. Comon geezer!

Souness is a miserable wanker. I stopped listening to him as soon as he said Kante wasn't a top quality player. Absolute helmet of a man, clearly harbouring some resentment for a failed managerial career. 

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19 minutes ago, Eidur the Spider said:

Souness is a miserable wanker. I stopped listening to him as soon as he said Kante wasn't a top quality player. Absolute helmet of a man, clearly harbouring some resentment for a failed managerial career. 

I use to rate him but agter last night he went down in my estimations. I didn't even know he said that about Kante. Kante is truly a World Class player. 

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It was overshadowed by the awful result but I actually thought he was our MOTM yesterday. Granted that doesn't mean much considering how the team played, but it's good that he's started with a positive performance.

Hopefully he slots right in next to JT until Zouma is back to 100%. 

[Henrique 9,133]

David Luiz still is David Luiz afte all. 3 perfect long passes that left strikers in front of the goal, and some WTF moments, like a non-header that left Musa in front of the goal to score the winner (saved by Begovic), and a some weird momments with Vardy, when the game was still 2x2. Perhaps Conte should try using him as a 3rd CB, playing in a more advanced position. 

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Wouldn't mind seeing him as a DM. His passing for a CB is world class. If he had players behind him to mop up his brain fades he would could be a lot more useful.

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9 minutes ago, Dazzy_Vance said:

Wouldn't mind seeing him as a DM. His passing for a CB is world class. If he had players behind him to mop up his brain fades he would could be a lot more useful.

His passing is good because he has time and space to pass the ball as a CB. Playing him in midfield would actually limit his passing ability. In midfield he would have much less time on the ball and he like pretty much even the best ball playing center backs doesn't have the quick brain to shine in that position. Out in the back, he can use his passing range and ability to drive the ball forward much more effectively.

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1 hour ago, Hybrid Angel said:

His passing is good because he has time and space to pass the ball as a CB. Playing him in midfield would actually limit his passing ability. In midfield he would have much less time on the ball and he like pretty much even the best ball playing center backs doesn't have the quick brain to shine in that position. Out in the back, he can use his passing range and ability to drive the ball forward much more effectively.

Good point. Although he was a beast against City when Jose partnered him with Matic. It depends how hard teams press.

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Fire a couple of lovely balls from the back into Costa and Batsman I think Luiz would be brilliant as a sweeper if conte was to play three centre backs

[Henrique 9,133]

12 hours ago, Hybrid Angel said:

His passing is good because he has time and space to pass the ball as a CB. Playing him in midfield would actually limit his passing ability. In midfield he would have much less time on the ball and he like pretty much even the best ball playing center backs doesn't have the quick brain to shine in that position. Out in the back, he can use his passing range and ability to drive the ball forward much more effectively.

This line doesn't make any sense. Good long passes are not related with time and space. You are suggesting anyone who have time and space can produce long passes? Its like saying every CB can produce good long passes. 

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10 minutes ago, Henrique said:

This line doesn't make any sense. Good long passes are not related with time and space. You are suggesting anyone who have time and space can produce long passes? Its like saying every CB can produce good long passes. 

or does Mikel ever?!

Agreed. His passing is excellent because it is - his technique is excellent. That's really undeniable.

Personally I think his technique and movement allow him to play well in multiple positions, including midfield. He has proven already to be a competent midfielder - helped winning important tough away matches by himself (before matic arrived in jan) and then along with matic.

At the moment we just don't have options in the CB area to even think about using DL anywhere else. Even when and if Zouma actually plays regularly this season, he will prob end up partnering DL more often than not.

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[Tomo 21,751]

20 minutes ago, Henrique said:

This line doesn't make any sense. Good long passes are not related with time and space. You are suggesting anyone who have time and space can produce long passes? Its like saying every CB can produce good long passes. 

Cesc is probably the best passer in the league, yet when pressed and denied space he isn't as effective, thats why he is rarely played further advanced despite his defensive handicap. So for the same reason he doesn't have as big as affect going from number CM to CAM, David won't going from CB to CM.

It's also like that every time a defender is good in an attacking sense, be it a fullback with wing play or a centre back with a strong passing range, it's almost assumed that they are meant to play in a further advanced position which is quite odd, Dani Alves will always be a big example, people thought he was wasted at fullback then got tried on the wing and was 55 shades of total shite.

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29 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Cesc is probably the best passer in the league, yet when pressed and denied space he isn't as effective, thats why he is rarely played further advanced despite his defensive handicap. So for the same reason he doesn't have as big as affect going from number CM to CAM, David won't going from CB to CM.

It's also like that every time a defender is good in an attacking sense, be it a fullback with wing play or a centre back with a strong passing range, it's almost assumed that they are meant to play in a further advanced position which is quite odd, Dani Alves will always be a big example, people thought he was wasted at fullback then got tried on the wing and was 55 shades of total shite.

good points and yes, it is also undeniable that everything gets more difficult when under pressure. Fabregas IMO is more susceptible to pressure because he lacks athleticism/physique. I remember DL making pretty good runs when under pressure in midfield back then.

He has already played in CDM and CM for very long stretches, so it's certainly not an experiment or unheard of. I do agree that at this time we have FAR more cover in midfield than defense, so it's natural DL will be far more needed in defense.

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39 minutes ago, Robguima said:

good points and yes, it is also undeniable that everything gets more difficult when under pressure. Fabregas IMO is more susceptible to pressure because he lacks athleticism/physique. I remember DL making pretty good runs when under pressure in midfield back then.

He has already played in CDM and CM for very long stretches, so it's certainly not an experiment or unheard of. I do agree that at this time we have FAR more cover in midfield than defense, so it's natural DL will be far more needed in defense.

Luiz in midfield could be an option in very big games when we will not see the ball for long periods and need to contain our opponents as much/more than attack them, so City, Spurs, and maybe the return Scouse game at Anfield, especially if Zouma is back for them games which means we can do it without Cahill starting. Those games mentioned are the only games I could live with him in CM.

Lesser games however when we need to take the initive I don't think him in midfield works in the slightest.

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On 9/17/2016 at 0:31 AM, petre.ispirescu said:

These pundits never fail to amaze me. So David Luiz is not a Conte type of defender, but Cahill is? How come? He is fucking dog shite, can't defend, can't play from the back, can't keep his shit together if Terry is not there, backs up like a fucking maniac, is prone to silly errors every week etc. Had David Luiz been English he'd have been on every pundit's lips. But since he is a foreigner of course "he can't defend". Similar to Claudio Bravo's situation when the media looked like they was expecting his mistake against United so much just to have a reason to praise Joe Hart once more. Because he is English, of course. When in truth Joe Hart is a fucking poor man's Begovic.

Wonderful post.

Let's not forget, when speaking of media agenda, how Rooney is the prodigal son who can do no wrong. Yet Costa, who's an absolute goal machine this season, is the terror to football and Conte's campaign