David Luiz

[Superblue 6,372]

Just now, DYC. said:

You'd think him being a huge personality would work in his favour though. Look at Pogba, Zlatan, Ramos, Neymar (different personalities but big personalities nonetheless). All more loved more than hated.

He is popular and loved though. I'm sure I read somewhere he has a bigger twitter or facebook following than Chelsea as a football club does.

The thing with popular big name players if they don't play for your club though is you love to see them make a mistake. If Zlatan missed a penalty or Pogba shanked a pass. And it's no different with David Luiz apart from if a keeper or defender makes a mistake it's highlighted more because it often leads to conceding a goal.

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22 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Ramos is closer to Luiz than many people think. His defending is hilarious at times and he is one if not the most agressive CB out there, because timing and calmness are not his pros. Both are similar in defending, but Ramos makes less mistakes when going forward.

He is very passionate and scores lot of goals, thats why people like and rate him.

They both defend very individualistically. Act first, think later. Rather than to really work together with his partner.

At times Ramos looks like an amazing defender. He's very talented. But he does not possess the mind of a great defender.

Luiz has better a team around him this time. Assuming he'll play on the left, he'll have Azpilicueta alongside him. And he'll have Kante and Matic in front of him. And of course playing in a much better organised team compared to the one in his first spell.

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4 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

He is popular and loved though. I'm sure I read somewhere he has a bigger twitter or facebook following than Chelsea as a football club does.

The thing with popular big name players if they don't play for your club though is you love to see them make a mistake. If Zlatan missed a penalty or Pogba shanked a pass. And it's no different with David Luiz apart from if a keeper or defender makes a mistake it's highlighted more because it often leads to conceding a goal.

Yeah but you won't catch many people saying he is the best or one of the best in his position. As a player he's criticised more than he's praised. Unlike the players I just mentioned.

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7 minutes ago, DYC. said:

They both defend very individualistically. Act first, think later. Rather than to really work together with his partner.

At times Ramos looks like an amazing defender. He's very talented. But he does not possess the mind of a great defender.

Luiz has better a team around him this time around him. Assuming he'll play on the left, he'll have Azpilicueta alongside him. And he'll have Kante and Matic in front of him. And of course playing in a much better organised team compared to the one in his first spell.

Funny thought, Ramos is respected, but Marcelo on other hand recieved shitload of mock for his defending for years. Interesting, he is, like Luiz a funny guy. When you look all those videos about Marcelo or Luiz and then watch them defend badly in game, obviously people will make more fun of them.

However, Marcelo is one of best fullbacks in the world regardless. Luiz simply has bad luck for being CB because that is the position, you need to be absolutely serious or points get dropped. However he is not as bad as people think.

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5 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Funny thought, Ramos is respected, but Marcelo on other hand recieved shitload of mock for his defending for years. Interesting, he is, like Luiz a funny guy. When you look all those videos about Marcelo or Luiz and then watch them defend badly in game, obviously people will make more fun of them.

However, Marcelo is one of best fullbacks in the world regardless. Luiz simply has bad luck for being CB because that is the position, you need to be absolutely serious or points get dropped. However he is not as bad as people think.

Unfortunately this is true. Some/many people are just sad. Let them enjoy life.

Agree with that last part as well.

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1 hour ago, BlueStorm1003 said:

Ramos is miles superior to luiz, so don't really see your point.

At what is Ramos 'miles superior'? 

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, !Hazard! said:

I wouldn't be so excited for this deal but knowing that Kante is there to cover for Luiz, this deal might just be the masterstroke by the Board we've all been waiting for. I mean, Kante has made Cahill-JT partnership very solid again. I'll bet he will make Luiz look like prime Ricardo Carvalho. Excited by this transfer!

 

And let's remember that we were never looking for the best defender for this position but instead Conte wanted a world class ball-playing CB. That is exactly what he was given.

Forget JT and Cahill, Kante made Morgan and Huth look world beaters. I have deliberately kept a close eye on him in games since about April and Leicester's title win makes more and more sense every time i watch him.

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, DYC. said:

Ramos is immensely charismatic and has scored big goals in his career but purely as a defender, he's not that good and that's my point. Completely disagree with him being miles superior.

You'd think him being a huge personality would work in his favour though. Look at Pogba, Zlatan, Ramos, Neymar (different personalities but big personalities nonetheless). All more loved more than hated.

Silva is top class for me (he's had some stinkers when he puts on that Brazil shirt though). Kompany is overrated for me. He was class for a few years (2011-2013) but hasn't been anywhere near as dominant as he used to be for years. Always disappointed in Europe as well. I will admit he was very good last season whenever he was fit though.

Read the same article and that line is indeed true. Luiz is a good player overall for me but a solid defender at best. Outside his howlers, his defending isn't the best overall tbh. Whether that's poor marking, being out of position, not reacting quick enough, giving away silly fouls and his strange decision-making at times when facing a 1-on-1 situation. The likes of Alex and Gallas for example were easily better defenders for me. Of course he offers other qualities they (or most defenders) didn't posses.

 

It all started that night he bullied Rooney in that 2-1 when he scored, since then the media have been out to get him and United fans have become almost deranged in their obsession with him, whenever he makes an even slight mistake those lot are on it like vultures.

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Can`t wait until we beat United with Luiz in the team and the look on Mourinho`s face that the player he got rid would come back to haunt him again like in CL with PSG

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Cahill is so much underrated. Luiz is certainly better with attacking and passing but Cahill is really good at tackling. Cahill has been a good player for us except for last season, I do think the hate around him is unjustified.

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9 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said:

Can`t wait until we beat United with Luiz in the team and the look on Mourinho`s face that the player he got rid would come back to haunt him again like in CL with PSG

You can hate Mourinho for all u like but can u really blame him for selling Luiz. 50 M is a really huge sum. The fact that the money wasn't put to good use is justified but not really can the selling of Luiz be.

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Think he was a back-up option for Koulibaly, so will be a bit intriguing to see how he plays in Conte's mind.

[The Chels 2,502]

14 minutes ago, Tomo said:

It all started that night he bullied Rooney in that 2-1 when he scored, since then the media have been out to get him and United fans have become almost deranged in their obsession with him, whenever he makes an even slight mistake those lot are on it like vultures.

Good memories.

 

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4 minutes ago, The Chels said:

Good memories.

 

The second half that night was the only convincing performance we had all season, crazy we came 2nd.

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Luiz takes number 30.