David Luiz

[Henrique 9,133]

He is a beast. MotM.

[Thor 2,392]

You're a dead set idiot if you hate Luiz. Sit here and pretend he wasn't our best defender this season all you want. Won't make it true.

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[OneMoSalah 8,778]

At fault for another goal but Henrique has a point, he is key to our backline, his ability to step out and play through the lines or long diagonal has become a common feature of our play and if Sarri is to continue, we need to find someone in this mould but better defensively as it helps out. Koulibaly would be the dream but no chance. Also was very impressed by Jorginho defensively tonight, he recovered a lot of balls. 

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

He's mediocre and will always be very mistake prone. Always plays too much on emotion and makes sill decisions. Never trusted him

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

3 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

He's mediocre and will always be very mistake prone. Always plays too much on emotion and makes sill decisions. Never trusted him

Defensively yes but again until we get someone else better defensively who can do half of what he can do with the ball, he will be a regular. Sarri probably pushing for him to get a new deal just like he pushed for Pedro to get a new contract in the summer.

[1905didierblue 748]

Saying he is our best defender does not make it true. You can shout it off the rooftops and would do fuck all. He is a pathetic defender. Always has a mistake in him which sets the team back massively in every which way. 

Needs to fuck off.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

He is a fucking liability, but I still love this man.

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

52 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Defensively yes but again until we get someone else better defensively who can do half of what he can do with the ball, he will be a regular. Sarri probably pushing for him to get a new deal just like he pushed for Pedro to get a new contract in the summer.

Time for Sarri to get "creative" and identify someone who can do a better job then. Sticking with Luiz isn't going to get us anywhere.

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Time for Sarri to get "creative" and identify someone who can do a better job then. Sticking with Luiz isn't going to get us anywhere.

Unfortunately we are transfer banned. Talk of Varane wanting out of Real but there is absolutely no chance we would get him, unless Real throw him in Hazard deal. Varane would be an unbelievable signing by all accords, struggled at times this year but has been playing at an extremely high level for 6 years. 26 years old. Would be a brilliant signing.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, OneMoSalah said:

Unfortunately we are transfer banned.

That remains to be seen.

Otherwise, look at the loanees! 

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

Just now, Jason said:

That remains to be seen.

Otherwise, look at the loanees! 

Zouma? Jesus imagine him playing out from the back, solid enough defensively but still doesnt read the game any better than he did when he started playing here, too reliant on his pace and that will cost us goals. Tomori isnt ready and the likes of Kalas, Clarke-Salter, Miazga.... not a lot there.

[Arlen Correa 161]

"Progressive" managers tend to rate sweeper keepers and CBs that are not actually good at defending if they are able to help reciclating possession. Guardiola loves it too.

I would prefer two skilful fulbacks even if they are not that good in defense but always line up a strong pair of traditional CBs. 

[1905didierblue 748]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Zouma? Jesus imagine him playing out from the back, solid enough defensively but still doesnt read the game any better than he did when he started playing here, too reliant on his pace and that will cost us goals. Tomori isnt ready and the likes of Kalas, Clarke-Salter, Miazga.... not a lot there.

Given how our whole defense used to boot the ball up under Jose and Conte, and how nervous we looked whenever the defense had the ball, I would have said the same about our whole defense. That is what sarri is there to do, teach zouma how to play out the back.

Why is tomori not ready? Does he let his man run freely into the box to score? No? Then he is more ready than this piece of shit.

[1905didierblue 748]

1 hour ago, Arlen Correa said:

"Progressive" managers tend to rate sweeper keepers and CBs that are not actually good at defending if they are able to help reciclating possession. Guardiola loves it too.

I would prefer two skilful fulbacks even if they are not that good in defense but always line up a strong pair of traditional CBs. 

Puyol was a mainstay of the pep pepe Barca. His captain. And I have never heard anyone say that puyol was not good at defending.

Even these days he has kompany playing while stones is warming his ass on the bench. 

[Arlen Correa 161]

33 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

Puyol was a mainstay of the pep pepe Barca. His captain. And I have never heard anyone say that puyol was not good at defending.

Even these days he has kompany playing while stones is warming his ass on the bench. 

When Guardiola became Barcelona manager Puyol was already captain, leader of the group and a starter for more than 9 years. Also that was 2008. I'm talking about the current trend among hipster managers.

 

You mentioned Kompany but surely City are not playing with just one CB? Who is their other starter CB? Is the french David Luiz Aymeric Laporte. Error prone like David Luiz. Slightly worse with the ball.

[1905didierblue 748]

35 minutes ago, Arlen Correa said:

When Guardiola became Barcelona manager Puyol was already captain, leader of the group and a starter for more than 9 years. Also that was 2008. I'm talking about the current trend among hipster managers.

 

You mentioned Kompany but surely City are not playing with just one CB? Who is their other starter CB? Is the french David Luiz Aymeric Laporte. Error prone like David Luiz. Slightly worse with the ball.

But if his preference was a ball playing CB over someone who can actually defend, then surely puyol would have been out. It's not as if pep was shy of making changes. He threw Yaya out of the team for a very very young and unproven busquets. If puyol was not his type of player, then surely he would have gotten the same treatment 

Regarding city, Laporte is not as good a ball playing defender as stones, but is definitely a better defender than stones. As far as I see it, pep is playing his 2 worst ball playing defenders in kompany and Laporte over stones and otamendi.

And that would not happen if he just chose defender on their "ball playing" ability rather than actual defending.

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

Wow this guy is exposed without Rudiger next to him.

[1905didierblue 748]

51 minutes ago, NiclasCFC said:

Wow this guy is exposed without Rudiger next to him.

To be fair to Luiz, he looked exposed even with a prime silva next to him. He would look exposed with a prime cannavaro/nesta/beckenbaeuer next to him