robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 We depend on him because he is part of the new spine for the team just like Cech-Terry-Lamps-Drogba were for the past 8 seasons. He is vital part of our team and hope fully will be in the future. His performance naturally has an effect on the team.What do you mean "mere defender"? There are 11 players on the pitch and all are vital for the team. Everyone has his job and they all have to do them well for the team to succeed. The midfield often has more impact on the game but that does not mean that you should not care about defenders. I though yesterday that our midfield was great for most of the match, but Liverpool were on top because our back 4 were terrible and we were practically playing without a striker.Luiz is not responsible for the distribution alone, in fact he hardly did any of that yesterday; only one of his many long balls found it's target and his passing accuracy was somewhere in the 70s% which is just awful for a defender. Mikel was doing all the distribution. And Liverpool didn't dominate the game, they dominated exactly 7 minutes at the start of the second half. They hardly managed to create anything outside that period.Finally, we are focusing on Luiz simply because this is his thread. The other players performances are discussed in their respective threads. Not disagree much, just going to address the "mere defender" bit. A defender will NOT be involved in the play most of the time because he must position himself behind the line of play, where the ball is. The midfielders, on the other hand will be looking into being always involved in the play.Right, and we were completely destroyed once Benitez replaced our best players leaving Torres there. It wasn't a coincidence Liverpool created many chances after that. A more composed defender like Terry would've helped, especially then, but our coach did not think so. However, I still don't think our midfield should've crumbled the way it did.Right, but this thread gets more attention than it deserves, however interesting a player and character David may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Not disagree much, just going to address the "mere defender" bit. A defender will NOT be involved in the play most of the time because he must position himself behind the line of play, where the ball is. The midfielders, on the other hand will be looking into being always involved in the play.Right, and we were completely destroyed once Benitez replaced our best players leaving Torres there. It wasn't a coincidence Liverpool created many chances after that. A more composed defender like Terry would've helped, especially then, but our coach did not think so. However, I still don't think our midfield should've crumbled the way it did.Right, but this thread gets more attention than it deserves, however interesting a player and character David may be.And this is the key point. Teams defend TOGETHER and our double pivot has been weak for most of the season.But some people are blind to any criticism of certain players when the priority should be what makes the team better. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Not disagree much, just going to address the "mere defender" bit. A defender will NOT be involved in the play most of the time because he must position himself behind the line of play, where the ball is. The midfielders, on the other hand will be looking into being always involved in the play.Right, and we were completely destroyed once Benitez replaced our best players leaving Torres there. It wasn't a coincidence Liverpool created many chances after that. A more composed defender like Terry would've helped, especially then, but our coach did not think so. However, I still don't think our midfield should've crumbled the way it did.Right, but this thread gets more attention than it deserves, however interesting a player and character David may be.Can't argue with you about the subs, no idea what he was thinking.. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 And this is the key point. Teams defend TOGETHER and our double pivot has been weak for most of the season.But some people are blind to any criticism of certain players when the priority should be what makes the team better.Completely agreed and our maestros don't get a free pass either.like I said before I think Mikel isn't good enough for that position (not quick enough and not aggressive enough), but Mata and Hazard are poor markers. Oscar shows good teamwork, but isn't a proper CM...it's his first season after all. And Ramires has been playing twice a week with no cover... The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted April 22, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted April 22, 2013 Some pictures posted by Marin at Luiz's birthday party.. Strike, Amblève., Rmpr and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 HAPPY BD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Some pictures posted by Marin at Luiz's birthday party..Paulo, what a lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Why is Oscar in Zoro costume when it should've been Zorres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Is Hazard wearing our NT jersey? It seems like the belgian-brazilian shake is for real. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 And this is the key point. Teams defend TOGETHER and our double pivot has been weak for most of the season.But some people are blind to any criticism of certain players when the priority should be what makes the team better.lolyou do love the double pivot talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 23, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted April 23, 2013 Julio Cesar Hutcho, xPetrCechx, Mufassir08 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Julio Cesar Then this happens...James Olley @JamesOlleyBeen told QPR are likely to fine Julio Cesar after he wore a Chelsea shirt at David Luiz's birthday party. Exact amount undecided as yet. The Skipper, Tomo and Hutcho 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 He has good taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Then this happens... And do you think he cares??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJames 729 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Then this happens...Seriously? QPR has no sense of humor apparently. Then again I wouldn't want to see any Chelsea player in a Man U shirt even for fun. Poor Julio though seems like a really nice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyflashman 187 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 SIDESHOW BOB FOR CAPTAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Some pictures posted by Marin at Luiz's birthday party..The seniors notably missing from here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic weeds 446 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Seriously? QPR has no sense of humor apparently. Then again I wouldn't want to see any Chelsea player in a Man U shirt even for fun. Poor Julio though seems like a really nice guy.We should sign him as backup. Sell Turnbull and Hilário. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 We should sign him as backup. Sell Turnbull and Hilário.Will he want to be a back up? I don't think so!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 The seniors notably missing from hereNow now. There's no need to go and read so much into these things. Maybe the others just went for Mikel's birthday. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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