TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Agreed.However, with Luiz signing and the type of players they've got, Chelsea are signaling a drastic change in style. I am not that crazy about such a drastic shift from a *winning* style to a possession/flair considering only a single side in a very long while have been able to successfully play like that (hint: not arsenal).Why all that said, Luiz showed a lot of composure in the CL last season. Perhaps it is just a matter of coaching and young age? he is still 25 yo, which is very young for a defender.BTW, we did concede 2 goals and looked weak at the back without Luiz against reading.I'm not saying Luiz is at fault for all defensive problems by any stretch. He even plays very well at times and there's way too much good player/bad player stuff on here anyway ("good players" are not responsible for anything wrong and are responsible for everything that goes well and vice versa). However, if it were me and I got the sort of rumoured offer for Luiz (25-30M) I'd sell him in a second and go after a more conservative, elite CB. (Someone like Chiellini or Hummels) .but I am not in charge so it's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 i think luiz was a good defender when he used to prefer to pinch the ball off the strikers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royg 96 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Luiz had a poor night, much like the majority of the team, but the problems stemmed from the double pivot. I said this last night, some people don't understand that the 4-2-3-1 is heavily reliant on a boxed shape between your two deep centre midfielders and your centre backs. There was no shape last night whatsoever, mainly due to Lampard being positionally suspect and letting his attacking instincts get the better of him. Mikel was often left isolated with Atletico attacking fast in numbers.Watch the 2nd goal more closely and you'll see Atletico basically walk through Mikel and Lampard with short, quick passing. Any player playing between the lines last night would've had a field day against those two. The first job of the players in the double pivot is to protect the defense, then look to supply the attacking players. We have all these attacking players, but if you don't have a solid foundation to build these attacks from then it's inevitable you will struggle.Spot on! Too much space and too deep forward both pivot players. How would you protect the defense in case of counters when you are too deep forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 That Lampard-Mikel midfield left the defence badly exposed against At Mad's quick tempo passing. Lampard cannot start these games - he doesn't have the legs or the discipline to stick to his role in this new responsibility that's been entrusted on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Lampard+Luiz in the mid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Lampard+Luiz in the mid. Hell no... Could you imagine both Lampard and Luiz bombing forward, it's not worth thinking about....! Luiz+Mikel in the mid. sleazyB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 David Luiz with Oscar and his wife! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan_Osborn 58 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 David Luiz with Oscar and his wife!Just wondering mate, where do you get these photos from? Is it from twitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone 290 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Just wondering mate, where do you get these photos from? Is it from twitter?Those are from David Luiz or Oscar's instagram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Oscar would have been like a lost kid in a foreign country had Luiz not been there for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 David is captaining Brazil today! Jose M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 David is captaining Brazil today!Yes, I'm watching the match, David is the captain for Brazil! Can't say I'm not surprised.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 David Luiz did NOT shake Ferdinand's hand according to replays. Jype and petr.breu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson 358 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I got told he didnt shake Antons hand? Is this true? Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 He said after the Atletico game he was going to fix the situation and fair play to him, he played very well in his next game for us.Now it's just about finding that level of consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 He said after the Atletico game he was going to fix the situation and fair play to him, he played very well in his next game for us.Now it's just about finding that level of consistency.Agree. Had a great game. He even surprisingly kept things simple at times during the game!As you said, the question now is whether he can keep it up with this kind of performance. That's going to be his challenge right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 He was a bit shaky at the start but really grew into the match. Was our best player in the second half until Moses and Danny came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Agree. Had a great game. He even surprisingly kept things simple at times during the game!As you said, the question now is whether he can keep it up with this kind of performance. That's going to be his challenge right now.I thought the opposite. He made a few very good key plays late, but overall, his positioning was atrocious. He was upfield way too often, drifted off to the right too far and kept trying to bomb the ball forward instead of playing the simple pass. You don't notice it as much when the other team doesn't score, but he needs to stay back and play simple, short passes instead of being caught upfield. He played like a defender late in the game (perhaps because Terry was hurt and Luiz knew he had to cover some for him) and was great in the last 30 minutes, but he needs to simplify his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Any video of what happend with anton the c*nt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Any video of what happend with anton the c*nt?http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=fi&client=mv-google&v=Nogz7RkSDyA&nomobile=1 xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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