View from a non-fan

[Gaffney 0]

I do know that you's have reached the final before but at least you went out with sporting dignity. If your a fan you will obviously be enjoying the result, I'm just saying you won't win as many fans if you could, you might lose some glory hunting fans eg people who just buy the shirts. Basically you didn't put down all your chips in the final so Chelsea won't reap as many benefits.

Thanks for the people who replied in a nice manner, it's appreciated even if out opinion differs. Celtic will won't reach a UCL final until money is removed as the dominating factor in successful football teams, we reached it when players weren't instant millionaires for finishing bottom of a league.

I liked it when I seen Boas join Chelsea, I thought he would bring good football to Chelsea but the squad isn't good enough for that in the EPL. As it stands your squad suits the anti-football tactic, Boas needed a few seasons to turn things around and the backing of the players.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Back to the original topic; I think Chelsea have played very well in the previous games before the final. It is difficult to beat teams like Napoli and Barcelona, and they made it. However, from a completely un-biased view as a Madridista, Bayern Munich deserved to win the Champions League final. It all reflects on the game statistics. Bayern had the possession, shots, passes, corners and all the rest while Chelsea had none of it. Bayern were dominating the game, Chelsea wern't.

The only stat that counts, is the goal statline. And as you may know we had a better one than Bayern.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

First of all, before I start off; It's very sad to see that moderators here on TalkChelsea hop on the bandwagon when people post memes in general forums where they actually aren't supposed to be posted - you should know that. You're a moderator, be a role model to the other forum members. If you can't bother reading the original post because it is too long, then leave it. Just so stupid.

Back to the original topic; I think Chelsea have played very well in the previous games before the final. It is difficult to beat teams like Napoli and Barcelona, and they made it. However, from a completely un-biased view as a Madridista, Bayern Munich deserved to win the Champions League final. It all reflects on the game statistics. Bayern had the possession, shots, passes, corners and all the rest while Chelsea had none of it. Bayern were dominating the game, Chelsea wern't.

I am happy for Chelsea though, you finally won the Champions League title and I don't mind it, at all. Just saying that based on the final performance, Bayern should have won it.

If you're going to reply to my opinion, at least reply maturely and unbiased, please.

Bandwagon? How about you stop questioning my staff team before I put you on the 'banned-wagon'. They do an outstanding job here, putting in considerable time and effort for next to no reward or recognition. Consider that before criticising them.

[zolayes 14,489]

it was interesting to read Arjens profile ,,, A swede whose favourite players are all Madrid or ex Madrid and WHO SITS IN THE MHL

yes Im sure he does ,,,As for the OP ,,to be lectured on football by someone whose own league is in meltdown ... and whose country fail

to qualify now for any tournament .. He should be concerned about the state of the game at his own place ,, It seems he came here because a young player

left Celtic to join us ... What a sad creature he must be to be made bitter by such a trivial deal.

[Ollie 4,400]

I'm pretty sure we started Bertrand at LW, we had 2 of the England back 4 which may have been 3 if JT wasn't suspended and an English midfielder in Lamps, plus Sturridge, Hutchinson and Chalobah in the squad too, i think a couple of em on the bench. I think in todays football, especially in an English team, that's pretty impressive. I'm not sure what the point is here.

What has it done for Chelsea? Apart from the fact that we get loads of money and a very good choice of player to bring in. It's money earned by the team to use, not just thrown in by the owner.

Forget the attacking bullshit, Celtic won it in a different era, they'll never get close again tho but in todays era, by hook or by crook we managed to get the job done. It goes on the CV, Chelsea have won the Champions League and boy it gives us some bragging rights over North London scum.

Really strange post tbh, maybe jealous or something that Scotish football is a similar standard to the blue square premier now. Winning a CL, at any time in any way is massive. Cahill's career as well is Luiz and Mata will grow now, it breeds mega confidence. Bertrand played and there were other youngsters there too. Chelsea Football Club just got a lot bigger thanks to yesterday. More interest, fans, players, coverage, exposure. Monumental day for everyone involved in the club.

[zolayes 14,489]

apparently the penalty shoot out was watched by Cameron ,,Obama and Putin .....so Im not too bothered what Salmon thinks

[didierforever 7,349]

did u see the bayern vs real game? bayern DOMINATED madrid which even barca cant say they have done in the last 2 years. our squad is not the strongest and we know that

Let me just start off by saying I'm not here to vent anger, I'm not here to cause trouble I'm just here to give my views and get some back from Chelsea fans on their two big Champions league games against Barcelona and Bayern.

Often sides have played defensive football against Barcelona due to their brilliant attacking football. It wasn't a great game of football but there have been a few bad semi-final games in history because an underdog really wants to get through to the final. After the end of the game Chelsea were the better team because Barcelona do not have a target man they can put into the box and they demanded to much to come from Messi. If you watch La Liga Barcelona's away form let them down because the majority of their goals came from Messi.

Moving onto the final I had high hopes for a good game of football. Bayern aren't as dominating as Barcelona and they do have a target man or two.

The Champions league, the ultimate inspiration in club football for clubs, supporters and youngsters coming through. The final last night has done nothing good for the sport, I'm sure Chelsea fans will be delighted. At the same time I've seen fans complain about the lack of youth coming into your team. Several young talented footballers have been shifted away and not a lot of them have been given game time to progress. The performance from the team sums up why this has happened, the main thing a football club should be doing in bring in and develop new young footballers. Sometimes you have to buy youth and then develop them which is fine as long as the new club provides a platform for them to develop.

I support Celtic and we won the European cup in 1967 with the Lisbon Lions and with the way we won it pushed our club to where it is today. We got decades of benefits from winning it with style and all the men playing came from within 30 miles of Celtic park which was a inspiration to Scottish football. That is the true benefit of winning the UCL, not the win but the way it was won. It's effect can still be felt through the club today and is a massive inspiration to the youngsters and fans.

The question I have for you is how will Chelsea really benefit from winning the UCL last night? A win with style with youngsters would have been an inspiration to London as the 1967 win was an inspiration to the whole of Scotland and to an extent the whole of the UK as Man United was the second British team to win the European cup in 1968.

youth systems dont come up in a day, they take some time. ours has probably taken too long but we are coming there. bertrand, josh, hutchinson,chalobah(all ours) and lukaku,sturridge,piazon,bruma, van aanholt(bought). even our previous batch of youth players were a good bunch but were all deemed not good enough for chelsea (mancienne and co. who were all sold to hamburg). even our recent buys have been with the future in mind (kdb and marin). this is the answer for youth system.

as far as your question for how chelsea will benefit is the most stupid question in the world. it gives us the perfect platform to bid adieu to some of the old guard(ferreira, bosingwa,malouda). it shows our mental strength to the whole world. group stage valencia, round of 16 napoli, quarters benefica, semis barca and now bayern on their own ground. these matches show the character of the team and the squad.

as for your disaapointment of not getting to see a box to box match, all i can say is you are stupid to have expected that. today's world is completely mediacentric and they made bayern the absolute favourites. plus they were playin on their home ground and all that shit. losing our captain, our only good right back and our true get out of jail player what did you think was gonna happen. any team that plays 4-2-3-1 should have the 2 such that they can break thru the middle (lamps and mikel both dont do it). bosingwa was playin as a right back so kalou HAD to cover him the whole match. so right wing gone. on the left you have robben vs cole which was a tie and lahm to support, so we had to play bertrand to stop lahm. commendable effort from the young guy. this left us only mata (who was pounced upon as soon as he got the ball) and dd who could not make his physical presence count as much as he would have wanted. to expect an attacking chelsea was your stupidness. we knew our weaknesses and covered it perfectly and our strength was woth drogba being the impact man which also worked great. WE FUCKING DESERVED TO WIN IT AND NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US.

[diskoviolente 425]

Who gives a shit what "non fans" are thinking ?

Obviously Bayern played better football in terms of possession, shots on goal/target, corners, passes, whatnot. Result: 1 goal.

This Chelsea team played to it´s strength. Defending, grinding out results, doing it the hard way. Result: 1 goal, 4 scored pens and the trophy.

Haters gonna hate; let them cringe. I certainly couldn´t give less than two cold hearted shits about that. We´ve been through a hell of a season, and now people come say "oh yeah, well done, but your pass statistics doesn´t look that fancy". How fucking boring can one be ? As the Gary Neville put it in his deep knowledge of the game "This is more than football."

[Kez 2,727]

The people who say we didn't deserve it obviously haven't been watching us for the past 8 years. We deserved it a long time ago, it just happened to come at a time when nobody expected it.

^ This pretty much sums it up.

Liverpool ghost goal,

Terry's slip,

Barca injustice.

None of that fucking matters anymore.

[Arjen Robben 55]

judging by your user name you are probably as biased as we are ...and certainly more pissed off.

so run back home and check out how Arjen is feeling ,,,We are celebrating winning a trophy Real haven't won in a while

I am actually a Madrid fan and watched the final like a normal person. Just because Arjen Robben is one of my favourite players it doesn't mean I actually wanted Bayern to win, because to be honest, I'd prefer Chelsea to win - which they did.

Bandwagon? How about you stop questioning my staff team before I put you on the 'banned-wagon'. They do an outstanding job here, putting in considerable time and effort for next to no reward or recognition. Consider that before criticising them.

Never really questioned them, though. Of course they do an outstanding job here, no doubt about that, just said that they could at least display a good example of how we want everyone to be on this forum, don't you think that would be better?

[Arjen Robben 55]

it was interesting to read Arjens profile ,,, A swede whose favourite players are all Madrid or ex Madrid and WHO SITS IN THE MHL

yes Im sure he does ,,,As for the OP ,,to be lectured on football by someone whose own league is in meltdown ... and whose country fail

to qualify now for any tournament .. He should be concerned about the state of the game at his own place ,, It seems he came here because a young player

left Celtic to join us ... What a sad creature he must be to be made bitter by such a trivial deal.

Why do you have to be so offensive instead of just having a normal discussion? Calm down will ya?

Haven't done you any wrong, have I? You say you are more than happy to have "outsiders" (other fans) here, but your posts don't really motivate nor encourage me to stay here.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I am actually a Madrid fan and watched the final like a normal person. Just because Arjen Robben is one of my favourite players it doesn't mean I actually wanted Bayern to win, because to be honest, I'd prefer Chelsea to win - which they did.

Never really questioned them, though. Of course they do an outstanding job here, no doubt about that, just said that they could at least display a good example of how we want everyone to be on this forum, don't you think that would be better?

See your point, but we don't have a strict community here. Mods are just normal members with certain privileges, like free cookies. We have a lot of fun on here and posting memes etc is part of TC culture.

[zolayes 14,489]

Why do you have to be so offensive instead of just having a normal discussion? Calm down will ya?

Haven't done you any wrong, have I? You say you are more than happy to have "outsiders" (other fans) here, but your posts don't really motivate nor encourage me to stay here.

just let us know where your seat is in the MHU

come in BUT dont pretend to be a Chelsea fan . I dislike liars

[Arjen Robben 55]

See your point, but we don't have a strict community here. Mods are just normal members with certain privileges, like free cookies. We have a lot of fun on here and posting memes etc is part of TC culture.

See, one learns new things every day

[Arjen Robben 55]

just let us know where your seat is in the MHU

come in BUT dont pretend to be a Chelsea fan . I dislike liars

I am not a Chelsea fan... What is it that you don't understand? Where have I claimed that I am a Chelsea fan? Please provide me with any statements or such where I have claimed to be one.

I am a proud Madridista and have been one for over 10 years now, and will always be.

Just sad seeing people like you jump on other members for no reason..