Ollie 4,400 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) He gets most of his goals in games we've already won and very rarely scores a crucial away goal like a goal at OT or Anfield or the Emirates. I can say this with the utmost confidence that Salomon Kalou will never score a winning goal or a crucial goal in one of these stadiums nor will he play well in such a game. He's a home player when things are going great and he misses so many chances that a proper world class player would have double that Kalou total. I don't like stats much because they don't really show me how well he actually performed. Ibrahimovic is shitter than shit and look at his goal tally? Stats are just numbers on a piece of paper. I have seen Kalou play very well but only off the bench and not often enough. He'll never be first team material....he shouldn't even be at Chelsea. He's got more medals than Zola ffs! When you're playing Chesterfield at home in the Carling Cup 3rd round, you can bank on him getting the first goal but if you're away at Man Utd in a premiership decider, you can bank on him doing absolutely nothing. The kind of opponent you dream of playing against in a big game.Shame the word 'ability' is in liability. Edited June 27, 2011 by OllieCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I guess some of u have already pointed out that with Kalou it is all about consistency which he lacks big time. Squad player maybe but starter, wouldnt trust him. For me, Kalou is a good example of being unambitious ( i would add Mikel to that list as well). because i feel that these 2 players have tremendous talent if we compare to the rest in the team but they have never delivered when it matters (please dont say they have got their chances/opportunities). U r a part of a club which is paying u good money let keep going it with, give a couple of decent performances so that coaches remembers and u would stick around, thats the kind mentality these players have from what i see. With kind of talent they have to their disposal they should had been among the best in Europe but where do they stand after what 3 - 4 years at Chelsea " Squad Players". We have examples of ppl really giving it their best, Drogba: Arrogant, complacent before Torres arrived, started giving out performances when his ass was on fire. Lampard: I always thought he was a decent players which limited talent, but boy didnt he use his strength to be Chelsea's finest (today which midfielder can boast 20+ goals in a league for the last 5 years) Struridge: Didnt use his talent to the fullest here, once he was send out he starting kicking asses. So and so forth. But with Kalou and Mikel i havent seen that fire in these many year come what happens. (though i would add that Mikel performance these season was better than any season he had at Chelsea, but still not at the best levels)I would rather have players who want to fight it out for a place in the 11 then those who would be happy to be just a Squad players, i know we cant have everyone in the 11 but that doesnt mean u shouldnt show the desire. Sell them while we they are young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 He gets most of his goals in games we've already won and very rarely scores a crucial away goal like a goal at OT or Anfield or the Emirates. I can say this with the utmost confidence that Salomon Kalou will never score a winning goal or a crucial goal in one of these stadiums nor will he play well in such a game. He's a home player when things are going great and he misses so many chances that a proper world class player would have double that Kalou total. I don't like stats much because they don't really show me how well he actually performed. Ibrahimovic is shitter than shit and look at his goal tally? Stats are just numbers on a piece of paper. I have seen Kalou play very well but only off the bench and not often enough. He'll never be first team material....he shouldn't even be at Chelsea. He's got more medals than Zola ffs! When you're playing Chesterfield at home in the Carling Cup 3rd round, you can bank on him getting the first goal but if you're away at Man Utd in a premiership decider, you can bank on him doing absolutely nothing. The kind of opponent you dream of playing against in a big game.Shame the word 'ability' is in liability.Going by your post I can confidently say you like gerrard more than lampard. Because the qualities you are looking for in Kalou are in Gerrard. Like you ignore Kalous stats I'm sure you would ignore Lamparda stats. if you don't then you are being biased.Coming back to Kalou, you should know that he has scored winners and equalizer at wigan away, man utd at home, everton away, Newcastle away, winner against Spurs at home which was very crucial, etc. He is for me the best supersub in the league. I'd take him over Nani and Kuyt or Ngog.Has the best goals per minute ratio in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Nani is a different level to Kalou but i dont like him because he's a cheating moaning piece of shit. Gerrard and Lampard are completely different players imo. Gerrard does more than Lampard in terms of tackling and driving his team on in difficult times but for sneaking unnoticed scoring valuable goals, Franks the man. Lampard is a goal scoring midfielder and the best of his generation, Gerrard is more box to box but Gerrard hides in the big games whereas Lampard in his prime didn't. Don't wanna start a Gerrard - Lampard debate....Fact is, Kalou is shit followed by a full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 So why do you want Kalou to score late winners and all that at anfield, old trafford and emirates while we have several other top players in the team who could do it? Kalou is a winger striker and has the best goals per minute ratio in the league and has rescued the team on numerous occasions.He does miss out on sitters but he scores crucial goals and comes up with assists at crucial times in matches. Note the winner at OT by Drogba was assisted by Kalou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Also couldn't resist myself but how on earth does one call ibrahimovic shit when he has scored loads of goals in holland, Italy and Spain. Striker is judged and valued on the goals he scored. He may not be a big game player but top top striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I've just finished reading a book called "Why England Lose & Other Curious Football Phenomena Explained / Soccernomics". If that book taught me anything, it's that stats can be cherry picked and unreliable. Numbers are good, but they don't paint the whole picture. Kalou, whilst a good player and somebody who can score goals, also misses sitters that my granny could score. He can be incredibly frustrating to watch and at times acts like a spoilt brat. If he stays, good. But I won't shed a tear if he goes either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I've just finished reading a book called "Why England Lose & Other Curious Football Phenomena Explained / Soccernomics".I've heard of that! Worth a read? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Come on AVB sell this guy already and put Sturridge in his place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowermatthewman 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 All you lot slagging Kalou are mugs - how can you call someone like him shit? Obviously because you are better players than him... (not)Bring your boots to Stamford Bridge and see how many of you get a game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall 315 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 All you lot slagging Kalou are mugs - how can you call someone like him shit? Obviously because you are better players than him... (not)Bring your boots to Stamford Bridge and see how many of you get a game...We're not professional footballers getting paid 65 grand a week to play for one of the best teams in the premier league/the world you mug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowermatthewman 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 just seen the post from justin_3d ... some nomark yank who prob never been to Chelsea in his life - should stick to baseball or basketball or stealing land from native American Indians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowermatthewman 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 exactly Randall - thats why you're not qualified to make stupid remarks about people who are paid 65k a week - do ya get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Please don't fucking start another Kalou argument. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowermatthewman 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I thought supporting Chelsea meant supporting the team - not slagging them off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 If you're only here to troll another Kalou argument then just leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowermatthewman 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 just sticking up for the players in the team that I support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 just sticking up for the players in the team that I supportRespect mate but unfortunately that brings the haters out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Respect mate but unfortunately that brings the haters people who want what's best for Chelsea football club out.Fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Fixed it for you.Slagging the team aint gonna change anything. Just because people aren't slagging Kalou to the ground doesn't mean they want the club to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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