Reddish-Blue 2,507 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 You tell me, Jason. I seriously have no idea why he didn't play.its called not trusting the youth unless they are exceptionally talented (example Kurt Zouma) I feel bad for Aké but I think it's obvious, his career will prosper after leaving Chelsea....then after 2-3 years, we will wonder why we sold him zolayes and King11Didier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 its called not trusting the youth unless they are exceptionally talented (example Kurt Zouma) I feel bad for Aké but I think it's obvious, his career will prosper after leaving Chelsea....then after 2-3 years, we will wonder why we sold himIf Zouma was the exact same player from our youth team, he won't have played that game.On the other hand, if Ake was the 10 mil pound kid from some middling French club, he would have played. I honestly believe that.Anyway, based off the evidence of Zouma's performance, I can't see how the decision was justified. Ake on the other hand has looked brilliant when he's played there, both in the league and in the CL. lionsden, Ainsley Harriott and Madmax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 If Zouma was the exact same player from our youth team, he won't have played that game.On the other hand, if Ake was the 10 mil pound kid from some middling French club, he would have played. I honestly believe that.Anyway, based off the evidence of Zouma's performance, I can't see how the decision was justified. Ake on the other hand has looked brilliant when he's played there, both in the league and in the CL.If Ake was a player from some middling French club he wouldn't be here. from what I know Ake is a CB/DM that can't play there because he is not tall enough, his best option is try to do something in the LB of a great team because it will be imposible for him to play in the CB, and he will have problems as a DM.Zouma is everything a CB should be. Good defender, tall, strong, fast for a CB, his jump is increadible. He is the perfect young CB, like Varane was. Ake won't be taller.I think that's the reason why Mourinho also likes Ruben Loftus-Cheek. In my opinion Ake has no future here, also because we have 2 great players that can play as LB.Ake also had no luck with the injury he had in the moment some kids played in the cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 2, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 2, 2015 If Ake was a player from some middling French club he wouldn't be here. from what I know Ake is a CB/DM that can't play there because he is not tall enough, his best option is try to do something in the LB of a great team because it will be imposible for him to play in the CB, and he will have problems as a DM.Zouma is everything a CB should be. Good defender, tall, strong, fast for a CB, his jump is increadible. He is the perfect young CB, like Varane was. Ake won't be taller.I think that's the reason why Mourinho also likes Ruben Loftus-Cheek. In my opinion Ake has no future here, also because we have 2 great players that can play as LB.Ake also had no luck with the injury he had in the moment some kids played in the cups.Anytime Ake has played as a DM, he's played very well, both in the Premier League and in the Champions League. Bentaleb who was Tottenham's best player didn't just fall from the sky, he was given an opportunity by a manager who believed in his talent. All that other stuff you're typing is just gas. With all due respect, of course. mediator, Madmax, zolayes and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 On the other hand, if Ake was the 10 mil pound kid from some middling French club, he would have played. I honestly believe that.I'm not sure if it's true. Aké have to fight with Matic, Fábregas, Ramires and Mikel while there is only 2 players Zouma's position. Aké's had no chance top play regularly. I would love to see him more often but he's been sitting on the bench for months while Zouma played a lot of games recently. It was the right call to name Zouma in the starting eleven. Aké's situation at Chelsea is worrying though.. He was so good every time he played for Us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Anytime Ake has played as a DM, he's played very well, both in the Premier League and in the Champions League. Bentaleb who was Tottenham's best player didn't just fall from the sky, he was given an opportunity by a manager who believed in his talent. All that other stuff you're typing is just gas. With all due respect, of course. It's just that there are people that want every young player to have chances, and there are people (like me) that think we spould give chances only to the players that have the right characteristics. Our DM is Matic with experience, 194cm, great characteristics... let's face it, it will be almost imposible for Ake to do it here.He did well when he played but sooner or later he will be out, because he don't have the quality of Matic and has also a big handicap because normally a DM shpould be taller.THere are other DM that are not tall but in my opinion it would be difficult for a team like CHelsea to give time to develop a player with this characteriscs.In the LB position I think he would have more chance here, but there we have Azpi and Luis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm not sure if it's true. Aké have to fight with Matic, Fábregas, Ramires and Mikel while there is only 2 players Zouma's position. Aké's had no chance top play regularly. I would love to see him more often but he's been sitting on the bench for months while Zouma played a lot of games recently. It was the right call to name Zouma in the starting eleven. Aké's situation at Chelsea is worrying though.. He was so good every time he played for Us.Ake would have played more games if he actually cost the club some decent money, that's my point. When you have two of your holding midfielders injured and the natural option is a young, talented and mature Nathan Ake who has played well every time he's played, he has to start. Zouma has played a lot of games but he's not a DM, he's also about the same age as Ake. That can't be good for Ake's confidence at all. killer1257, lionsden, Madmax and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 If Zouma was the exact same player from our youth team, he won't have played that game.On the other hand, if Ake was the 10 mil pound kid from some middling French club, he would have played. I honestly believe that.Anyway, based off the evidence of Zouma's performance, I can't see how the decision was justified. Ake on the other hand has looked brilliant when he's played there, both in the league and in the CL.He would have because he would have gone out on loan to where ever his talent/application would have shone through and he would have got in the squad.Mou deserves a lot if credit for Zouma for me, yes it's easy to cite the price tag, but how often did we see Lukaku under AVB? kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 He would have because he would have gone out on loan to where ever his talent/application would have shone through and he would have got in the squad.Correct me if I'm wrong but Ake has never gone out on loan before. Also, loans are hardly conclusive. Just look at Nemanja Matic for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Correct me if I'm wrong but Ake has never gone out on loan before.No, maybe he should now he qualifies as HG because if he shines ala Sturridge (which i believe he could) he will basically come back as a new signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Ake would have played more games if he actually cost the club some decent money, that's my point. When you have two of your holding midfielders injured and the natural option is a young, talented and mature Nathan Ake who has played well every time he's played, he has to start. Zouma has played a lot of games but he's not a DM, he's also about the same age as Ake. That can't be good for Ake's confidence at all. I thought you were talking about the COC-final only, my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 i stopped believe in him succeding here when Fabregas came for injured Mikel against some 4th league team.. guess he is one of this players who won't get many chances from Mourinho, and propably won't be here in two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He's been good whenever he played this season, but it's obvious Mourinho doesn't trust him as the sole CDM yet. Yesterday in the presscon he said "our only two cdms are out, so we chose Zouma". Whenever he played this season he played alongside Mikel in the pivot to protect him. So he basically played as a CM. At left back there might be a future here for him in 3-4 years when Luis and Ivanovic are leaving, Azpi as the RB. But I doubt that, we'll probably buy a new rb/lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He's been good whenever he played this season, but it's obvious Mourinho doesn't trust him as the sole CDM yet.Yesterday in the presscon he said "our only two cdms are out, so we chose Zouma".Whenever he played this season he played alongside Mikel in the pivot to protect him. So he basically played as a CM.At left back there might be a future here for him in 3-4 years when Luis and Ivanovic are leaving, Azpi as the RB. But I doubt that, we'll probably buy a new rb/lb.It was the right call not to name him against Spurs, he hasn't played in months. It was a cup final, the most important thing was not to concede goals and Zouma was the right man. Against West Ham, who knows? We need to attack and score goals against them. Zoma could be useless this time but it'd be also risky to play Oscar or Willian as a CM, so maybe this is his or RLCs big day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2015/03/ake-loaned-to-reading.htmlSo,Chalobah has got a new teammate at Reading Sadly,he just wasted another year in his developtment... Blue Colored Sky, Ainsley Harriott, zolayes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2015/03/ake-loaned-to-reading.htmlSo,Chalobah has got a new teammate at Reading Sadly,he just wasted another year in his developtment...TWO years wasted killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! killer1257 3,282 Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 25, 2015 TWO years wastedThe funny thing is that Benitez did more for our youth in his short time at Chelsea than Mourinho in 2 years Reddish-Blue, Beigl, lionsden and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Year wasted for him. I get that the club wanted him to stay last season to so he would qualify as "club trained" for the CL lists. But there was no excuse to keeping him to rot this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Wow. What fucking bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Good luck but ...What was even a point of keeping him here, I don't really know. Same case with Lewis Baker. And then they have to find some emergency loan. What's really weird is that Jose said that Ake is practically already made player. But he didn't get his chance when there was a gate after Matic suspension and Mikel injury for Ake to get his chance. Pretty little liars I guess. Again.From what I've seen of Ake, I think he should boss there with his already big maturity. Though there were talks that he's going to Besiktas, a current leader of Turkish League and now he's landed to fight against relegation in English Second Division. LMAO. zolayes and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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