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[haranr 485]

You mean how the jews were getting slaughtered while the whole world turned their back?

Why cant a jewish state exist?

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Wow. Your true colours are suddenly showing....

Plz also check your facts on the ways Palestina was occupied and colonialised.

This was not a peacefull process. Also, after violating the original (imposed to palestines) un territorial agreements Israël keept taking land by force (condemned btw by International law). You even had to forcefully import Mizrahi Jews to get enough colonists to occupy the land. Ask some of the Iraqi jexish population who had no affinity at all with eastern european zionism .... It is nowhere near correct to say tthat 'jews deserve a place to live'. This is rewriting history even ....

Comon mate.

I wish to criticize your claims. I will begin with something not very relevant but the 'stage 1' photo is simply incorrect. You need to remember that most of the land was nobodys because there was no Palestine or Israeli state. A full majority of the Palestine lived and still living in the WEST BANK and that was their territory.. the same for Israel. Where they lived is where their land was. Stage 1 should not be shown here.

Now I don't really understand what you are trying to say. The situation is much more complex than just (Israel won the war and got the land), The Palestines have chosen WAR in 1947. Now, this might be understandable but absolutely unacceptable. There is no legitimate explanation of why they declined the UN partition aside from arrogance and egoism.. You should not legitimize that. Explain me your points further please. Thank you.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

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I wish to criticize your claims. I will begin with something not very relevant but the 'stage 1' photo is simply incorrect. You need to remember that most of the land was nobodys because there was no Palestine or Israeli state. A full majority of the Palestine lived and still living in the WEST BANK and that was their territory.. the same for Israel. Where they lived is where their land was. Stage 1 should not be shown here.

Now I don't really understand what you are trying to say. The situation is much more complex than just (Israel won the war and got the land), The Palestines have chosen WAR in 1947. Now, this might be understandable but absolutely unacceptable. There is no legitimate explanation of why they declined the UN partition aside from arrogance and egoism.. You should not legitimize that. Explain me your points further please. Thank you.

Right.

[haranr 485]

Wow, Zionists are more brainwashed than I thought.

Your country is a terror state / police state that acts as the eyes for the United States (another terror / police state) in the Middle East.

Zionists are brainwashed into thinking they deserve more than the Palestines but Israel is NOT a terror state, does NOT have a terror police.. That is simply wrong. If you want to critisize Israel then fine but you must remeber that Israel shouldn't be called a terror state because it is not what it is. I can prove you wrong in every aspect. You don't seem to know the meaning of the word 'terror'... Try and prove me wrong.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Zionists are brainwashed into thinking they deserve more than the Palestines but Israel is NOT a terror state, does NOT have a terror police.. That is simply wrong. If you want to critisize Israel then fine but you must remeber that Israel shouldn't be called a terror state because it is not what it is. I can prove you wrong in every aspect. You don't seem to know the meaning of the word 'terror'... Try and prove me wrong.

This Time, Again, Who started all the attacks? Hamas.

Israel told them, stop attack and we will not attack. but....

we just defend.

[haranr 485]

It is absolutely hilarious and tragic at the same time that the media still treats this 'struggle' as a fair fight as if it is a war between two equally equipped sides.

This is the effect of Palestinian resistance rocket:

And this is an Israeli army airstrike:

Context and perspective are everything.

Listen, what are you trying to say? That it's legitimate for them to shoot rockets that have a possibility of killing innocent civilians? What exactly are you saying? Let me tell you how stupid you are for saying something like that: Because Israel is much stronger.. it's okay and legetimate for the Palestines to shoot rockets that sometimes do have a signficant damage. Lucky for Israel, "Iron Dome" is at place to take down most of the rockets. Israel has the right to defend itself. You just sounded real stupid .. You can criticize different things but not this.

[haranr 485]

This Time, Again, Who started all the attacks? Hamas.

Israel told them, stop attack and we will not attack. but....

we just defend.

What's your point??

Btw, Israel don't just defend. Settlements is a disgrace .

[haranr 485]

Yes. Zionists have a huge influence in Western Media and Western politics in general.

Honestly, I think it's a political decision. One that won't be made any time soon. General consensus is set by the media and the media is a reflection of certain policies. As you said, there can be no just solution as long as the best interest of Israel is valued many times more than that of the Arabs.

Israel broke down the "peace talks" when Hamas and Fateh, the two main representatives of the Palestinian people, ended their feud. There can never be any doubt after that about Israel's intentions to not have actual peace.

Israel should NOT have broke down the "peace talks" with Fateh but Israel MUST not talk to a terrorist organization such as Hamas. Both sides do not want to compromise enough for peace.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

We gave them 48 hours to think, to stop what they started... they continued to fire missiles on us...

now we must to response.

[haranr 485]

We gave them 48 hours to think, to stop what they started... they continued to fire missiles on us...

now we must to response.

This is obvious.. We should not just response. We should enter the Gaza Strip in order to demolish Hamas. This terror organization has gone too far. They hurt their own and Israel at the same time.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Hamas Hurt The Palestinians more than anyone else.

[haranr 485]

Hamas Hurt The Palestinians more than anyone else.

True. Now, are you ימני?

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

True. Now, are you ימני?

Not too far from...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Listen, what are you trying to say? That it's legitimate for them to shoot rockets that have a possibility of killing innocent civilians? What exactly are you saying? Let me tell you how stupid you are for saying something like that: Because Israel is much stronger.. it's okay and legetimate for the Palestines to shoot rockets that sometimes do have a signficant damage. Lucky for Israel, "Iron Dome" is at place to take down most of the rockets. Israel has the right to defend itself. You just sounded real stupid .. You can criticize different things but not this.

No, I'm saying it is VERY clear to anyone who sees that who is the oppressor between the two sides and who is terrorizing who. In fact, just by looking at the types of weapons, any sane person can deduce who the criminals are and who are the people trying to defend what little remains from their basic rights for life with what little they have.

I've said before, I do not wish to discuss this with you, so don't quote me again, please.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

No, I'm saying it is VERY clear to anyone who sees that who is the oppressor between the two sides and who is terrorizing who. In fact, just by looking at the types of weapons, any sane person can deduce who the criminals are and who are the people trying to defend what little remains from their basic rights for life with what little they have.

I've said before, I do not wish to discuss this with you, so don't quote me again, please.

trying to defend?

we didn't attack them first.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

trying to defend?

we didn't attack them first.

And how do you think they ended up with 50 year-old riffles and locally made rockets? No one attacks a country, let alone one of the most armed countries in the world, with these weapons. These are defense weapons. These weapons are a reaction, not the action.

Yes, this last conflict was started by the Palestinians, which I had already said in this thread is inexcusable and awful, but they have always been the ones defending (and losing) their land, their homes, their families, there mere existence.