Politics & Stuff

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25 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Yeah but you cant just use nukes, your only gonna fuck up more unless its your existence on the line. Nukes will not be fired anytime soon and hopefuly never again.

A very bad move by Trump to leave the table on that nuke treaty, all was fine until then really. Or at least we could see progress. In just 5 days Trump has broken several int laws. entered Iraqi airspace, killed 1 Iraqi general, 1 Iranian, promised to destroy cultural sites in Iran etc. Its bewildering. If US responds with force now which they likely will then a full scale war is at hand. Fucking sad isnt it.

Is better to jaw jaw than war war

[Atomiswave 6,117]

1 hour ago, chippy said:

Western countries have shown they can very quickly regenerate after really major wars, so damage inflicted on the West by Iran would be very temporary. The damage that the West could, if it wanted to, inflict on Iran, would mean there was no people or country left to regenerate.

Shame, because as a Country Iran has great potential but it'll always be a pox on the world so long as its lead by extremist, religious nutters.

USA - land of the free where millions upon millions of people of all races and religions go to live.

Iran - a country where people flee for their lives.

 

 

 

Ohh please, land of the free my ass. THey have been in constant war for 200 years. Fucked up so many nations, bullying their way as they see fit. Iran too has many many races inside, its not just persians, but all are United under the same banner. Dont eat too much of the media bs they shove in our throats. And if Iran has religious nutters then the likes of US have war mongerers with a proven track record.

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[Fernando 6,585]

1 hour ago, Atomiswave said:

Ohh please, land of the free my ass. THey have been in constant war for 200 years. Fucked up so many nations, bullying their way as they see fit. Iran too has many many races inside, its not just persians, but all are United under the same banner. Dont eat too much of the media bs they shove in our throats. And if Iran has religious nutters then the likes of US have war mongerers with a proven track record.

Your clearly wrong in one thing. 

Despite all the hate that USA and Israel get I much rather live there then Iran. 

At least I will have my religious freedom where I can't get that in Iran. 

 

[11Drogba 2,000]

1 hour ago, Atomiswave said:

. Dont eat too much of the media bs they shove in our throats.

Are these true or bs too? I am asking because as you said western media can make up stuff.

Girls in rural Iran are often forced into marriage at a young age. Protected under Iranian law. UNICEF, in 2016 indicate that 17 percent of girls in Iran were married before the age of 18. And according to statistics from the Iranian National Organization for Civil Registration quoted in 2015 by the Center for Human Rights in Iran, over 40,000 girls under the age of 15 had registered their marriages during the previous one year.

https://www.dw.com/en/child-marriage-in-iran-forces-girls-into-a-life-of-oppression/a-40450099

 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

3 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Your clearly wrong in one thing. 

Despite all the hate that USA and Israel get I much rather live there then Iran. 

At least I will have my religious freedom where I can't get that in Iran. 

 

They are many Christians in Iran but I agree they are undermined. Exactly why I said Im not fond of these mullahs.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

2 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

Are these true or bs too? I am asking because as you said western media can make up stuff.

Girls in rural Iran are often forced into marriage at a young age. Protected under Iranian law. UNICEF, in 2016 indicate that 17 percent of girls in Iran were married before the age of 18. And according to statistics from the Iranian National Organization for Civil Registration quoted in 2015 by the Center for Human Rights in Iran, over 40,000 girls under the age of 15 had registered their marriages during the previous one year.

https://www.dw.com/en/child-marriage-in-iran-forces-girls-into-a-life-of-oppression/a-40450099

 

Of course this happens everywhere also in Iran too. But not like this. I have not seen or heard anything like this in Iran at all. The regime in Iran is one thing, but the people are not like them in vast majourity of issues. Its not in our nature. THis is much much more likely in the Khalij arab states than ever in Iran.

[Fernando 6,585]

5 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

They are many Christians in Iran but I agree they are undermined. Exactly why I said Im not fond of these mullahs.

Agreed, that being said nuking Iran because of that issue is lunacy. 

Iran has many good people, just the regime that is bad. 

You don't go dropping a nuke just because you don't like the regime. Your killing many innocent people. 

Anyhow I hope we don't get to that. 

[11Drogba 2,000]

3 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Of course this happens everywhere also in Iran too. But not like this. I have not seen or heard anything like this in Iran at all. The regime in Iran is one thing, but the people are not like them in vast majourity of issues. Its not in our nature. THis is much much more likely in the Khalij arab states than ever in Iran.

But is it protected by law?

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1 minute ago, 11Drogba said:

But is it protected by law?

Not as far as I know. Iran is not an Arab nation. And the regime can pass whatever they want, it does not mean people will act and do as they say.

[11Drogba 2,000]

7 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Not as far as I know. Iran is not an Arab nation. And the regime can pass whatever they want, it does not mean people will act and do as they say.

So you don't exactly know the situation for example in rural places where support for the current regime is high.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

Iran doesn't forget that its democratically elected government was deposed by the US and UK, and replaced with a US friendly 'Shah' for oil. How dare the Iranians keep their own oil !! So they had a revolution in 1979 and the 'Shah' had to seek refuge in the US. There was the 'Museum of Arrogance' in Tehran -everything in there was US stuff 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

1 hour ago, 11Drogba said:

So you don't exactly know the situation for example in rural places where support for the current regime is high.

The regime has the backing of the people if war is looming. Iran always is United in these times no matter what, we take care of the inside issues at our pace, outside issues always in 1 voice. The regime wont last another 4 decades, 1 big revolution and they are gone.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

So after the Trump speech it looks like no more will come out of this, I'll take that anyday.

[Fernando 6,585]

Yes I think Iran was also smart. 

They did attack but made it so no casualty happens, as they don't want a war right now. 

Now the last problem remains, if Iran does go ahead full speed with the nuclear weapons?

If they are smart again they will wait till Trump and Netanyahu are out of the view....