Politics & Stuff

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10 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Doesn't help that the democratic side has an imbecile in the form of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez representing them. 

Be interesting to see if Ben Sasse runs 

LOLOL at imbecile

AOC is one of the best things to happen to American politics in ages.

Unless, of course, you are a RWer, a corporatist LWer, a neoliberal, a neocon, a for-profit healthcare industry shill,a bankster puppet, a white nationalist and/or generic racist stooge, a pro-empiric war-monger/humanitarian bomber type, a rentier income leech, a rapacious political consultant, a fossil fuel shill, a climate-change denier, or a despicable Clintonian/Blairite neoliberal, non-intersectional identity politics-pushing rotter (ie. use identity to divide as a faux wedge issue and shove in a sold-out POC or female who still tows the corporate line) OR all of the above (or combos of some of the above).

There is absolutely nothing imbecilic about AOC, She is whip-smart and knows how to play the modern social media game against the cunts. She is a tigress.

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Vesper said:

LOLOL at imbecile

AOC is one of the best things to happen to American politics in ages.

Unless, of course, you are a RWer, a corporatist LWer, a neoliberal, a neocon, a for-profit healthcare industry shill,a bankster puppet, a white nationalist and/or generic racist stooge, a pro-empiric war-monger/humanitarian bomber type, a rentier income leech, a rapacious political consultant, a fossil fuel shill, a climate-change denier, or a despicable Clintonian/Blairite neoliberal, non-intersectional identity politics-pushing rotter (ie. use identity to divide as a faux wedge issue and shove in a sold-out POC or female who still tows the corporate line) OR all of the above (or combos of some of the above).

There is absolutely nothing imbecilic about AOC, She is whip-smart and knows how to play the modern social media game against the cunts. She is a tigress.

 

 

She is, in every regard, an imbecile.

She's been made a fool of countless of times and represents everything against the US Constitution. An embarrassment to the democratic party given her naivety and blatant inexperience. All of her statements she claims as facts, have been debunked in beautiful fashion. From Unemployment, Medicaid for all funding ,ICE, and how the money would be utilised to shift the United States into a socialist country. All of which scream nothing of rhetoric and have been appropriately fact checked. Ben Shapiro especially has made her look like a twat. 

What's worse, is the fact the democratic party is virtually split on her Green New Deal proposal given the scrutiny behind it (paying those that don't want to work) and it's unrealistic concepts defeating climate change. It's beautiful seeing even Democrats blast her nonsense. She doesn't know how money works. 

She really is a gift to the Republicans if she represents the future of the democratic party. 

 

 

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They had great chance with Bernie Sanders. 

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25 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

She is, in every regard, an imbecile.

She's been made a fool of countless of times and represents everything against the US Constitution. An embarrassment to the democratic party given her naivety and blatant inexperience. All of her statements she claims as facts, have been debunked in beautiful fashion. From Unemployment, Medicaid for all funding ,ICE, and how the money would be utilised to shift the United States into a socialist country. All of which scream nothing of rhetoric and have been appropriately fact checked. Ben Shapiro especially has made her look like a twat. 

What's worse, is the fact the democratic party is virtually split on her Green New Deal proposal given the scrutiny behind it (paying those that don't want to work) and it's unrealistic concepts defeating climate change. It's beautiful seeing even Democrats blast her nonsense. She doesn't know how money works. 

She really is a gift to the Republicans if she represents the future of the democratic party. 

 

 

Truly wrong on all counts. We can go head to head for ages when I am in the mood to debunk your nonsense. Pure tosh.

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Just now, Vesper said:

Truly wrong on all counts. We can go head to head for ages when I am in the mood to debunk your nonsense. Pure tosh.

1. Her socialist ideas go against the US Constitution. 

2. She has been debunked on her statements regarding ICE, Unemployment, Medicaid, and how she will get the money to support her proposals. 

3. Her Green New Deal is currently split between the Democratic party given it's unrealistic goals. The Republican Party won't ever consider it given the scrutiny behind it's proposal to pay those who don't want to work. They also don't buy into the notion it was 'doctored'. 

4. She doesn't know how money works given if she had her way, there would be 4 trillion in new spending per year. Which equals the entire federal budget. She said all of which can be paid for without raising taxes. 

5. Ben Shapiro has made her look like a tit. 

 

Inform me which of those points, in your words, is 'wrong on all counts". 

 

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27 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

She is, in every regard, an imbecile.

She's been made a fool of countless of times and represents everything against the US Constitution. An embarrassment to the democratic party given her naivety and blatant inexperience. All of her statements she claims as facts, have been debunked in beautiful fashion. From Unemployment, Medicaid for all funding ,ICE, and how the money would be utilised to shift the United States into a socialist country. All of which scream nothing of rhetoric and have been appropriately fact checked. Ben Shapiro especially has made her look like a twat. 

What's worse, is the fact the democratic party is virtually split on her Green New Deal proposal given the scrutiny behind it (paying those that don't want to work) and it's unrealistic concepts defeating climate change. It's beautiful seeing even Democrats blast her nonsense. She doesn't know how money works. 

She really is a gift to the Republicans if she represents the future of the democratic party. 

 

 

You do not habe a bloody clue what socilism means. Not ONE American Democrat advocates state control of the means of production, which is the cornerstone of actual socialist governance. Sanders, et. al are boilerplate social democrats.  To the extent the US has socialism, it is CORPORATE SOCIALISM, ie. corporate losses and costs tossed onto the back of the public, and almost all profits privatised. At least learn basic political terminology before spewing RW Faux News knee-jerk nonsense.

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1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

1. Her socialist ideas go against the US Constitution. 

2. She has been debunked on her statements regarding ICE, Unemployment, Medicaid, and how she will get the money to support her proposals. 

3. Her Green New Deal is currently split between the Democratic party given it's unrealistic goals. The Republican Party won't ever consider it given the scrutiny behind it's proposal to pay those who don't want to work. They also don't buy into the notion it was 'doctored'. 

4. She doesn't know how money works given if she had her way, there would be 4 trillion in new spending per year. Which equals the entire federal budget. She said all of which can be paid for without raising taxes. 

5. Ben Shapiro has made her look like a tit. 

 

Inform me which of those points, in your words, is 'wrong on all counts". 

 

Tomorrow I will shred your positing, tonight I am going to enjoy the game.

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Tomorrow I will shred your positing, tonight I am going to enjoy the game.

By shred I mean DESTROY btw. You have run into the wrong woman in terms of politics on this board. Get ready baby, it isn't going to be pretty.

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6 minutes ago, Vesper said:

You do not habe a bloody clue what socilism means. Not ONE American Democrat advocates state control of the means of production, which is the cornerstone of actual socialist governance. Sanders, et. al are boilerplate social democrats.  To the extent the US has socialism, it is CORPORATE SOCIALISM, ie. corporate losses and costs tossed onto the back of the public, and almost all profits privatised. At least learn basic political terminology before spewing RW Faux News knee-jerk nonsense.

I've already named one in the form of Alexandria Cortez.

She wants to provide free tuition and free healthcare for all. How does she mean to do this? By raising tax rates nearly 70% on the wealthy. Taking their earned income and redistributing it to others. IE Socialism. Even that wouldn't be enough to fund it all. What's more concerning, is that she proposed banks to 'print more money'....

So again, tell me how this doesn't go against the US Constitution? 

26 minutes ago, Vesper said:

By shred I mean DESTROY btw. You have run into the wrong woman in terms of politics on this board. Get ready baby, it isn't going to be pretty.

I look forward to it. Haven't had a debate in ages. 

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Hard earned? LOL tax the tax dodging 1% 99% still be eating cavier off models and drinking rhino horn tea in 20 room mansions

calm down trump!

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1 minute ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Hard earned? LOL tax the tax dodging 1% 99% still be eating cavier off models and drinking rhino horn tea in 20 room mansions

calm down trump!

You don't have to be a Trump supporter to understand positive and negative rights. Rights that are given to us based on the declaration of independence. 

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3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I've already named one in the form of Alexandria Cortez.

She wants to provide free tuition and free healthcare for all. How does she mean to do this? By raising tax rates nearly 70% on the wealthy. Taking their earned income and redistributing it to others. IE Socialism. Even that wouldn't be enough to fund it all. What's more concerning, is that she proposed banks to 'print more money'....

So again, tell me how this doesn't go against the US Constitution? 

I look forward to it. Haven't had a debate in ages. 

Against the US constitution? Truly WTF. There is ZERO thats states anything about what overriding philosophy drives US federal expenditures.

Pro tip:

Socialism (or what you are latching onto as a false smear) didn't even exist when the US constitution was written. 

Try to at least understand basic poltical history before you post such rubbish.

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Just now, MoroccanBlue said:

You don't have to be a Trump supporter to understand positive and negative rights. Rights that are given to us based on the declaration of independence. 

independence

Russia begs to differ

we burnt the WH down now its their turn lol 

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