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[lucio 5,418]

 

how dare they use a childs death like this, no wonder people attack hebdo ,disgusting people

[Spike 12,049]

2 minutes ago, lucio said:

 

how dare they use a childs death like this, no wonder people attack hebdo ,disgusting people

It's a disgusting thing to say but I think they are more trying to state that an innocent child easily grows into a corrupted adult. 

[lucio 5,418]

7 minutes ago, Spike said:

It's a disgusting thing to say but I think they are more trying to state that an innocent child easily grows into a corrupted adult. 

maybe , but you cant draw cartoons of dead children,

there must be a law against it

[Spike 12,049]

2 minutes ago, lucio said:

maybe , but you cant draw cartoons of dead children,

if that was a child in my family, chances are, there would be another massacre at hebdo hq

I disagree. They can draw images of whatever they wish. It may be bad taste and exploitative but they've chosen the path of free speech and they will take the repercussions that comes with it, rightful or not. On another note you've made a statement that seemingly makes light of the massacre of those cartoonists, just like you'd be upset if they drew an image of your dead child, wouldn't they [their families] be upset at you using the massacre like that?

[Kieran. 6,317]

13 minutes ago, Spike said:

It's a disgusting thing to say but I think they are more trying to state that an innocent child easily grows into a corrupted adult. 

Why use the Syrian refugee? You can state that without using an image of a dead child. Not to mention hinting that the child would grow up to rape women.

 

Pretty obvious anti-refugee propaganda. 

[Spike 12,049]

2 minutes ago, Kieran. said:

Why use the Syrian refugee? You can state that without using an image of a dead child. 

 

Pretty obvious anti-refugee propaganda. 

 

I don't know. Because it is evocative? I really don't know the point they are making. It could be as I said in my earlier post or more likely as you said; anti-refugee propaganda.

[lucio 5,418]

im sure they would be , but its just a stupid outburst, not a premeditated publication. close them down

[CHOULO19 24,332]

A few points from my perspective regarding the above:

- Charlie Hebdo is disgustingly racist. They have always been.

- Freedom of speech for France and most of the participants in the "Je Suis" march is the freedom to insult and discriminate against vulnerable minorities.

-That freedom of speech does NOT include the right to criticize power or express non-mainstream opinion as was proven by the French government that has practically use the year since the attack to crush free speech in the country as have most of Europe.

- Defending someone's right to express an opinion does NOT equal endorsing that opinion.

- I will defend with my life if necessary the right for Charlie Hebdo to put out those racist cartoons and I will spend hours and days and months if necessary explaining to anyone who'd listen how their cartoons are disgusting and calling for everyone to boycott such racism. 

[Spike 12,049]

So people are upset there were no 'coloured' Thespians nominated for an Oscar. So? Maybe there were no 'coloured' actors deserving this year. Having a damn nominee for the colour of their skin is incredibly racist. Once again the people who are getting mad miss the point entirely and are in fact the people in the wrong. Just like everything in life people should be awarded due to their merits not their race,  gender or sexuality. Of course they haven't considered that and immediately pull the race card claiming 'institutionalised racism'. These fools, these idiots, these absolute morons are more focused on the colour of someone's skin than the damn people running around in a white dunce hat covered in a sheet. They constantly do more harm than good be reinforcing the divide between races. On top of it all people conveniently forget that the President of the Academy is a black woman; Cheryl Isaacs Booth. 

I can't stand it, I can't stomach it and I will never understand the rationale.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

The BBC saying Abramovich gave Putin a £30m yacht as a 'present'. Cant see why he's so likeable myself.

The scandal being, according to teh BBC the said super boat is being maintained (bearing in mind these things cost £2000 just to start the engine), by public Russian funds

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

On 1/14/2016 at 4:39 PM, CHOULO19 said:

A few points from my perspective regarding the above:

- Charlie Hebdo is disgustingly racist. They have always been.

- Freedom of speech for France and most of the participants in the "Je Suis" march is the freedom to insult and discriminate against vulnerable minorities.

-That freedom of speech does NOT include the right to criticize power or express non-mainstream opinion as was proven by the French government that has practically use the year since the attack to crush free speech in the country as have most of Europe.

- Defending someone's right to express an opinion does NOT equal endorsing that opinion.

- I will defend with my life if necessary the right for Charlie Hebdo to put out those racist cartoons and I will spend hours and days and months if necessary explaining to anyone who'd listen how their cartoons are disgusting and calling for everyone to boycott such racism. 

Apart from that- these cartoons are supposed to be funny. 

Now, I know humour is subjective, but they seem to have lost the plot- how can a picture of a dead Syrian baby being drawn and then saying he would have grown up to be a sex pest get laughs ?

[blues.bridge 343]

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[CHOULO19 24,332]

6 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Apart from that- these cartoons are supposed to be funny. 

Now, I know humour is subjective, but they seem to have lost the plot- how can a picture of a dead Syrian baby being drawn and then saying he would have grown up to be a sex pest get laughs ?

Dunno. There's nothing funny about a picture of Mohammed getting butt-fucked either. These cartoons are a just a way to express disgusting and racist views while hiding behind 'art' and 'comedy'. Because if you say "I'm happy that that baby drowned to death, he was going to grow up to be a sex offender any way" then everyone will rightly label you as an ignorant racist, but if you draw it satirically, then it's 'expression of free speech'. 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

5 minutes ago, blues.bridge said:

i don't understand because we have 54 player between first team and on loan! And instead to sell (15-20 players who clearly never have possilbly to play here) and put the gain to top player and give chance at young, the board prefer put pato, pedro, cuadrado ...  I feel so sad!

Think you got the wrong thread, mate

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

2 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Dunno. There's nothing funny about a picture of Mohammed getting butt-fucked either. These cartoons are a just a way to express disgusting and racist views while hiding behind 'art' and 'comedy'. Because if you say "I'm happy that that baby drowned to death, he was going to grow up to be a sex offender any way" then everyone will rightly label you as an ignorant racist, but if you draw it satirically, then it's 'expression of free speech'. 

I am not sure a picture of Mohammed getting Butt Fucked is 'racist', or their stuff is racist per se, but it is insensitive to religious people. Some of the stuff they have done about French leaders is equally 'offensive' to the intended targets, and their relatives. It seems no one is off limits.

I just don't see the humour -then again when I was in France their 'humour' appeared either very childish, or too surreal to comprehend