Politics & Stuff

[NishC300 1,865]

You've done nothing but embarrass yourself, kid. You haven't even provided a single reliable source, it's like debating with someone from the flat earth society. Your 'response' is meaningless hyperbole and scare tactics and propaganda videos (Proper debate rule number 1: NEVER use YouTube videos, they are complete meaningless).

I've provided simple straight-forward facts with no bias, exaggeration or emotions. You've hopelessly failed to properly respond to any of them by trying to prove wrong known facts instead of attempting to explain them from your position. When I posted those facts, I wanted you to explain why they happened and where you as a pro-Israeli government stand on them, not ludicrously try to disprove them because that is simply not possible subjectively, hence the definition of the word 'fact'.

Embarrassing oneself is giving articles from a left-wing outlet and providing links to an anti-Israeli government agency in "Breaking The Silence."

Did you know that those 'YouTube videos' are from news channels and I uploaded them because I didn't want to type all that out.

NO I provided straight forward facts.

No they did not happen. Israel does not randomly shoot at civilians as you claim. I think you don't know the definition of debating.

You gave me a link to some random "Breaking the Silence" who claim Israelis are war criminals. Some idiotic group that gets the opinion of a few anonymous IDF Forces. Oh they are so reliable right?

So if let's say tomorrow some random Lebanese guy stood up and said all Lebanese people are horrible then that would be fact? Lol. Learn the definition of fact.

If you want garbage like that. Then I can give you a factual account by Mosab Hassan Yousef who was the son of a Hamas leader.

You know what's fact? That Hamas have written in their charter that they want to eradicate Jews from the fact of the Earth. But naturally I'm fear mongering.

So I am going to try and figure out your logic here:

1) If a random anonymous source claims the IDF are war criminals - it's true.

2) If we know for a fact that the IDF uses roof knocking etc. - it's false, they are still murderers.

Perfect. Wonder who embarrassed himself....

EDIT: So now according to you "Breaking the Silence" is a reliable source and everything else is false.

So if tomorrow I go and set up some bogus agency and claim that I know some anonymous IDF soldiers who claim Israel are murderers then it's true? I guess it is......

You know that there are some 'former US Soldiers' who claim 9/11 was fake. Does that mean it was lol?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Embarrassing oneself is giving articles from a left-wing outlet and providing links to an anti-Israeli government agency in "Breaking The Silence."

Did you know that those 'YouTube videos' are from news channels and I uploaded them because I didn't want to type all that out.

NO I provided straight forward facts.

No they did not happen. Israel does not randomly shoot at civilians as you claim. I think you don't know the definition of debating.

You gave me a link to some random "Breaking the Silence" who claim Israelis are war criminals. Some idiotic group that gets the opinion of a few anonymous IDF Forces. Oh they are so reliable right?

So if let's say tomorrow some random Lebanese guy stood up and said all Lebanese people are horrible then that would be fact? Lol. Learn the definition of fact.

If you want garbage like that. Then I can give you a factual account by Mosab Hassan Yousef who was the son of a Hamas leader.

You know what's fact? That Hamas have written in their charter that they want to eradicate Jews from the fact of the Earth. But naturally I'm fear mongering.

So I am going to try and figure out your logic here:

1) If a random anonymous source claims the IDF are war criminals - it's true.

2) If we know for a fact that the IDF uses roof knocking etc. - it's false, they are still murderers.

Perfect. Wonder who embarrassed himself....

EDIT: So now according to you "Breaking the Silence" is a reliable source and everything else is false.

So if tomorrow I go and set up some bogus agency and claim that I know some anonymous IDF soldiers who claim Israel are murderers then it's true? I guess it is......

You know that there are some 'former US Soldiers' who claim 9/11 was fake. Does that mean it was lol?

It's really very simple: If you want to deny the claims of the "Break the Silence" group, then simply find me reliable sources that back that up. You're still putting your fingers in your ears and screaming at the top of the lungs hoping that hard facts will go away. They won't. Get me any article from any trustworthy journalist in a reliable news source questioning the claims of the group. Meanwhile the material provided by the group that is recognized by everyone around the world, whose leaders are known former IDF soldiers and whose accounts confirm what has been reported by many sources on the ground on Gaza, that material will continue to be seen as fact until proven other wise.

Also don't make me laugh about Israel not randomly shooting at civilians, it has been done and proven so many times you sound like an evolution denier. In fact, here is the now IDF Chief of general staff talking about how have used and plan to use indiscriminate force against civilian areas. From an Israeli right wing paper just so you'd shut up about the left-wing outlets!

[Stingray 9,441]

Well,

Last year i went on vacation furiously reading all about Palestine. This year it will be about Goldman Sachs rape on Greece (and the european banks btw - Merkel wanted to sue them in 2010 - go figure).

Lads, this world isn't going where it should be. Just have a read here:

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/apr/24/will-goldman-prove-greed-is-god?CMP=share_btn_fb

Or here:

http://www.finanzen100.de/finanznachrichten/wirtschaft/griechenland-rettung-diese-elf-griechischen-inseln-koennen-sie-jetzt-spottbillig-kaufen_H1927987365_191226/#.VaUt8MS-P6p.facebook

Funny how a bank can destroy a country .... Making counterfit swap deals, fix the greek books, get them to the EU, make the European banks invest in them, then speculate on them losing, earn +500 million, wreck a continent AND have them still follow you like dogs. Also, the guy the Troika put into Greece 5 years ago is from Goldman Sucks. Such a scam, beyond belief tbh.....

Goldman Sachs, we should really Iceland you!

[Stingray 9,441]

Dp

[iseah100 5,612]

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-on-el-chapo-i-would-kick-his-ass-2015-7

This dude should probably shut his mouth before he gets himself killed.

[Stingray 9,441]

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-on-el-chapo-i-would-kick-his-ass-2015-7

This dude should probably shut his mouth before he gets himself killed.

Doesnt run on safari mate

[iseah100 5,612]

Doesnt run on safari mate

Use chrome than, you peasant.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Safari, Chrome? Madness...

[iseah100 5,612]

Safari, Chrome? Madness...

Are you still living in the stone age with Internet Explorer?

[Weckerz 3,781]

Are you still living in the stone age with Internet Explorer?

Firefox master race

[Stingray 9,441]

Use chrome than, you peasant.

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[Stingray 9,441]

Firefox master race

Yeah ....

[cosmicway 1,333]

Firefox master race

Firefox is the crappiest of them all now.

I use chrome but unhappily many of my passwords are in need of migration.

[NishC300 1,865]

Firefox master race

Best browser. The only browsers I download are Chrome or Firefox, but I prefer Firefox over the two.

It's really very simple: If you want to deny the claims of the "Break the Silence" group, then simply find me reliable sources that back that up. You're still putting your fingers in your ears and screaming at the top of the lungs hoping that hard facts will go away. They won't. Get me any article from any trustworthy journalist in a reliable news source questioning the claims of the group. Meanwhile the material provided by the group that is recognized by everyone around the world, whose leaders are known former IDF soldiers and whose accounts confirm what has been reported by many sources on the ground on Gaza, that material will continue to be seen as fact until proven other wise.

Also don't make me laugh about Israel not randomly shooting at civilians, it has been done and proven so many times you sound like an evolution denier. In fact, here is the now IDF Chief of general staff talking about how have used and plan to use indiscriminate force against civilian areas. From an Israeli right wing paper just so you'd shut up about the left-wing outlets!

The fact that Israel used roof knocking is a FACT. You do realise that Israel has the power to obliterate all their enemies right? You do realise that if Hamas had all this technology they would have finished off Israel right?

I love how you keep ignoring that Israel is one of the most tolerant and inclusive country and is fighting against terrorists. Terrorists who have stated in their charter that they want to kill all Jews. Imagine if Israel had the obliteration of all Palestinians written in their constitution?

Breaking The Silence are a bunch of phonies. Go research about their group, I told you in the previous post what a bunch of phonies they are yet you prefer to turn a blind eye to it. They are such a bunch of phonies when an Israeli soldier went to state a fact about Israel they forced him off the stage. Biased? I think so.

Respected journalists? Countless top professors and journalists commend Israel for trying to fight terrorists in a moral manner. I have already mentioned esteemed Law Professor at Harvard, Alan Dershowitz (who has spoken in great detail about how Israel continues to fight this war morally).

Countless top news networks have proven that the reason there are such high civilian casualties IS BECAUSE HAMAS USES HUMAN SHIELDS! THAT'S A FACT!

If you want to reduce civilian casualties tell Hamas to stop firing rockets at the Israeli mainland and to stop putting rockets in schools. Tell those cowards to stop putting innocent people in front of their rockets. Tell them to stop brainwashing kids by showing anti-Israel cartoons (a fact, go read about it on the BBC).

Yet you ignore that, but believe a bunch of phonies. Breaking The Silence recognised by everyone!?!?!? Hahahaha, David Icke most probably gets better recognition than them lol.

You're comparing me to an evolution denier for stating that Israel doesn't randomly shoot at civilians. Guess the world is full of evolution deniers. That's also so ironic as these Israelis you hate so much are the most scientifically advanced people on this planet, the Jews have provided us with some of the greatest minds of history.

What's even more ironic as that these Hamas terrorists who you support so much would most probably kill you for saying evolution is real. Weird to think a few weeks ago you called Christian bakers homophobes yet you support a terrorist group that regularly murders gays.....

IIRC you're an atheist right? Hamas would most probably murder you for apostasy while in Israel your views would be respected just like the over 1 million Arabs who peacefully live in Israel.

And again you spew false facts, Y Net by its own acceptance has 'accidentally' been biased to the left wing agenda and is in DECLINE, They have openly opposed Netanyahu on countless occasions and that many claim that has been a reason in the paper's decline (as well as the rise of Yisrael Hayom).

Furthermore, it's a TABLOID. That would be like taking The Sun seriously? So from now on everytime The Sun says something should we believe them as well? (Hey you were the one who was going on about reliability of sources lol)

That article is literally ONLY on that tabloid. The other articles (like the one on Reuters), quote that Tabliod.

You know at one end you don't seem to have a problem with a terrorist group that clearly states in its charter that it wants to kill all Jews yet when an Israeli general threatens to use excessive force (which they never did), you get all hyped and start calling names to Israel lol.

What's strange is that you didn't seem to go beyond reading the headline because as I go further down in the article, I can clearly read things about Hezbollah firing rockets from civilian areas. Yet that's not important. What's important is that Israel is giving 'scary empty threats'.

Hey remember when you sent me that fake Netanyahu quote? The one where he said that there was no chance of a two state solution in present conditions (where you ignored the last 3 words and went wild about the evil Israelis?).

On that very same article there is a link to this article. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3602654,00.html

In that article I can clearly read that a Hezbollah leader just said that Israel has no right to exist.......

Hmmm that doesn't seem to bother you right? Hypocrisy? I think so.

You expect me to respond to the lies you say yet you happily ignore all the FACTS I present.

So to conclude:

You had no response to any of my points. Thus you think of the cunning excuse of me not providing reliable sources.

And then respond by giving me links to a tabloid and some random group..........

[Spike 12,049]

It is unbearingly hypocritical when Catholics (or any Chrisitans for that matter) insult the prophet Muhammed by calling him a paedophile. I seem to recall a massive Papal cover-up concerning paedophilia commited by Catho