The European Leagues & Competitions Thread V2

[Atomiswave 6,072]

1 hour ago, Clockwork said:

How is it favoritism if United have performed better than West Ham over a period time? That is another way of rewarding based on merit, and that is favoring consistency over outlier. 
 

 

Im confused now, your saying if WH end at 4th and udt at 6th, and if udt have performed better through that said season then they are deserving of getting CL though they ended at 6th? If so then its favourism.

Edited April 22, 2021 by Atomiswave

[Clockwork 1,794]

44 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Im confused now, your saying if WH end at 4th and udt at 6th, and if udt have performed better through that said season then they are deserving of getting CL though they ended at 6th? If so then its favourism.

I am saying for example if over a period of 5 years Man United performed better than West Ham then they should be in the CL, and if vice versa was true than West Ham should be in the CL. 
 

I think it makes sense to grant CL qualifications based on some historical data, it has merit and it rewards the clubs that are most consistent.

[Atomiswave 6,072]

23 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

I am saying for example if over a period of 5 years Man United performed better than West Ham then they should be in the CL, and if vice versa was true than West Ham should be in the CL. 
 

I think it makes sense to grant CL qualifications based on some historical data, it has merit and it rewards the clubs that are most consistent.

With all due respect such an idea is flawed, for one it is heaven for them cunt owners at udt etc......you either land in top 4 or win the CL or EL, otherwise no entrance should happen, thats merit mate. Just because you hav done well in CL does not mean you get a free ride. Uefa's proposal is horseshit.

[Fernando 6,453]

European Super League: La Liga president Javier Tebas calls for greater financial controls on clubs like Man City and PSG

 

Tebas declares Super League "dead" amid insistence from Real Madrid and Barcelona that the project remains necessary; Tebas says that La Liga are not planning any punishment for El Clasico sides or Atletico Madrid

Manchester City were among six English clubs which signed up to the breakaway league on Sunday, while PSG rejected the opportunity to be involved, before it quickly fell through under global pressure from fans and politicians.

Tebas appeared to suggest that many of the teams who signed up for the breakaway league may have been motivated by their struggles to match the financial clout of City, who are owned by United Arab Emirates deputy prime minister, Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, and PSG, who are owned by Qatar Sports Investments.

 

"State-owned clubs like Man City and PSG - these clubs need to face some controls," Tebas said during a virtual news conference on Thursday. "They haven't done anything outrageous so far, but we will see."

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12283936/european-super-league-la-liga-president-javier-tebas-calls-for-greater-financial-controls-on-clubs-like-man-city-and-psg

 

 

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[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

Gundogan acting like Pep isn't going to shoot them with PEDs is pretty funny 

[nyikolajevics 2,573]

10 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Cry me a river Ilkay.. You earn 140,000 pounds a week, nobody gives a shit if you don’t want to play some more games.. It’s not obligatory to play for Europe top tier, in Arab/Chinese/USA clubs you can earn this money more comfortable..

[chippy 342]

There's a rumour that the owner of one of the big 6 is going to sell up.

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2 minutes ago, chippy said:

There's a rumour that the owner of one of the big 6 is going to sell up.

hopefully city. all the others can hardly find worse owners lol.

Fat chance of that happening tho. I guess it is ManUre.

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10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

hopefully city. all the others can hardly find worse owners lol.

Fat chance of that happening tho. I guess it is ManUre.

Significant sections of fans from Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs want their owners out.

The Liverpool owners have done a fine job,  but the Furlough scandal and now this, is a step too far for their hardcore socialist beliefs.

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

Real, Barcelona, Juventus still agitate for SuperLeague. Media in Spain call English clubs cowards.

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Aleksander Ceferin's ominous warning to clubs involved in European Super League scandal

The UEFA president has spoken out about how the 12 rebellious teams are likely to be dealt with in the coming weeks

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aleksander-ceferins-ominous-warning-clubs-23963118

 

UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin has warned that the 12 clubs involved in plans for a failed European Super League are to "suffer the consequences" of their actions in the coming weeks.

Shockwaves were sent through the world of football on Sunday when a dozen of the elite clubs throughout the continent announced their intentions to form the new competition - including Manchester United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham.

However, after receiving a huge backlash all six English teams withdrew from the proposed tournament on Tuesday, and the majority have issued apologies to furious supporters.

Although their reputations have been dealt a big blow, the punishment is not expected to end there, and sanctions could be issued by the likes of the Premier League and UEFA.

And speaking to Slovenian news outlet 24UR, Ceferin said he would take his time to consider the next course of action.

"A lot has happened 24 hours after the congress, but I expect more news by Friday," Ceferin said.

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45 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Real, Barcelona, Juventus still agitate for SuperLeague. Media in Spain call English clubs cowards.

rumour has it Real will be booted out of this years CL, we get a walkover

and Real, Barca, and Juve banned from next year's CL

sounds too good to be true

[Clockwork 1,794]

9 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Forget United, I am not sure what exactly is UEFA plan for CL In 2024 and beyond.

Let’s use Chelsea for example say we finish 6th this season and west Ham finish 4th. Under the current rules West Ham would qualify. But what I am suggesting is still fair and appease big clubs. Is that Chelsea should qualify because they finished 3rd, 4th, and 5th previous seasons, which is on average much higher than West Ham finishes.

That is the point I am trying to get across, there are other ways to decide CL qualifications. 

 

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Chelsea learn when UEFA will decide if Real Madrid will be expelled from the Champions League

Chelsea already have one eye on Tuesday's trip to Madrid where they will face Real Madrid in the Champions League semi-final first leg, but there is a chance the game may not go ahead

https://www.football.london/Chelsea-fc/news/Chelsea-real-madrid-champions-league-20447794

 

Chelsea should find out whether their Champions League semi-final tie with Real Madrid will go ahead at some point today.

The Blues are preparing to face Los Blancos in the first leg of their semi-final tie on Tuesday at Valdebebas, but the build-up to the game hasn't exactly been routine.

It's been a hectic week for both clubs after each of them decided to become a founding member of The Super League, receiving intense criticism on the back of it.

Within 48 hours, Chelsea withdrew from the project following the disapproval of their supporters, while Real Madrid remain intent to make it work.

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11 hours ago, chippy said:

Significant sections of fans from Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs want their owners out.

The Liverpool owners have done a fine job,  but the Furlough scandal and now this, is a step too far for their hardcore socialist beliefs.

The Kroenkes just told Arse fans to fuck off, they are not selling

zero chance it is us, or citeh

spuds unlikely unless someone stuffs billions into Lewis's mouth (I truly hate that fucker, he team up with Soros in mid September 1992, 2 and a half months before I was born, and tried to destroy the British pound, my mum was in FOREX trading at that time in the City, and the stress, so the doctors said, ended up with me being born 6 weeks premature, yet another reason (plus he tried to fuck up our nation) I HATE Spuds more than any other sport entity on the planet)

so that leaves FSG or the Glazers

flip a coin

I slightly favour (meaning I think they are the more likely) FSG, but wold not be shocked if it was the Glazers

[Vesper 28,767]

Real Madrid could be without six key first-team players for CL clash vs Chelsea

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/champions-league/report-real-madrid-could-be-without-six-key-first-team-players-for-cl-clash-vs-Chelsea/

Chelsea may have been handed a huge advantage going into their Champions League tie with Real Madrid as Zinedine Zidane’s injury concerns continue to mount.

Marca reported that Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez would definitely miss the European clash next week.

Ramos has only recently started his recovery from a calf problem, whilst Vazquez is out for the season with cruciate ligament damage.

Federico Valverde is the other guaranteed absentee.

It was confirmed on Sunday that he had tested positive for coronavirus, meaning a self-isolation period of ten days that covers the Chelsea game.

There is also major doubt surrounding Ferland Mendy’s fitness.

In the same Marca article, they state that the French full-back is being assessed as he overcomes a muscular overload.

Zidane might be sweating over the health of Toni Kroos and Luca Modric as well.

Neither trained with the group yesterday, as the Madrid manager wraps his two midfielders up in cotton wool.

Kroos and Modric have missed the past two La Liga matches, with abductor and back-issues respectively.

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2 minutes ago, Mana said:

None of the owners are selling. Do not believe for one second that rumour is true about an owner from the big 6 is thinking of selling.

Why?

Because I already said this and it’s confirmed by Perez: The SL isn’t dead. All we did is pushed it back.

The clubs have a binding contract with Perez. It has not been broken. All what the clubs did was ask to withdraw and Perez decided to halt the SL for now and rethink the strategy, that’s it.

The money is still on the table. They just have to hold on a little longer. Why the feck will any owner sell now?

£8m is supposedly the pull-out penalty